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  • Hope Vision 2 is upgradable
  • trout
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    Thanks to Tom who sent his Hope 2 light in for a bit of tweaking
    the good news is it is doable with minimal metal cutting

    Sadly I could not get a beam shot of before the tweaks
    and will have one soon from after.

    heres what one looks like in bits

    first up it needs a switch so the hole wants opening up to take a clicky switch

    Then as I have used a http://www.taskled.com Lflex driver board
    it does need to be heatsinked to the light housing
    and Hope have thought about this and provided a tapped post right in the correct place so a little piece of ali gets countersunk and bolted to this post

    and the driver is adhered with some special thermal tape that comes with the Lflex

    the old leds on stars need removing and the new ones gluing in their place I have used the latest U2 XMLs

    they are a direct swop and the mounting plate is bolted back in place with some thermal goop to aid heat transfer.

    I dont think it will handle the full 3 amps drive current but will give it a few tests at 2.5 amps

    a few beam shots will be along when I take the hound for a walk later

    Forgot to say the beam is pretty good using the stock hope optics so a bit of money saved there.

    Lumens approx 1500 on full dont know what the old leds gave

    jedi
    Full Member

    i was saying that i you’d be able to do that to our old hope led 2 lights

    stevemorg2
    Full Member

    thats a hell of a jump in output – I think the older (all black casing) Vision 2s put out @300 lumen!

    legend
    Free Member

    and the cost of such an upgrade??

    shindiggy
    Free Member

    Will it work with existing batteries, can I send mine next please 🙂

    clunker
    Full Member

    Ditto ^^ very interested.

    mrhoppy
    Full Member

    Yep very interested in how much it’d be to get that done.

    khani
    Free Member

    MEEEEEE TOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
    PLEEEEEEESE!!!!!!! 😛
    ps, how much? 🙂

    Tonolina
    Free Member

    Another interested party. Approximate cost?

    trout
    Free Member

    OK some beamshots
    I have set it up for 5 levels
    starting at level 1 up to level 5

    steve_b77
    Free Member

    Mr Trout,

    how much to do this please?

    will
    Free Member

    Woah! Great work as usual Trout!

    I don;t have an old vision two, however would still be interested in price, as I can get one cheap 🙂

    orena45
    Full Member

    How do the burn times compare?

    Mr5O
    Free Member

    Be very interested to know if this could be done with the vision 4 and if so how much

    midomo
    Free Member

    As the guys above, very interested.

    Rorschach
    Free Member

    I’m in (cost not withstanding).

    trout
    Free Member

    Burn times will of course suffer if max power is used

    no the hope 4 is a right bastid to modify and needs a new heatsink machining plus too much work to make it viable
    I have only done 1 and it took 6 hours after which I vowed never again .

    khani
    Free Member

    Your just teasing us now 😥
    HOWWW MUUUUUCH!!!!!!!!!!! :mrgreen:
    Please……

    orena45
    Full Member

    Sorry I meant how do the burn times compare to the standard/pre-mod Vision 2?

    trout
    Free Member

    I cant say as the hope I got seemed to not work
    the battery is a normal 2 cell job so I would say maybe a 2.4 mah job

    the light pulls 2.5 amps on mental
    and each level below approximately halve the last level

    maybe one of you owners could fill in the gap and say what runtime you get from the small battery

    ir_bandito
    Free Member

    I get pretty much the full claimed 1:45 on “normal” High power on my Mk1 Vision 2s.
    but I’m very interested in the upgrade.
    How much?

    shindiggy
    Free Member

    Normal run time would be about 1hr 40 on full, which i believe is 480lumen (not sure if this is actual or theoretical)

    jonnyrockymountain
    Full Member

    I would be very interested if you could turn mine into a max 1000 lumens
    If that means I could use the same batteries which I have 2 of them so if they only lasted 1 hr each on full that would be great?

    trout
    Free Member

    This was not a touting for business thread just a follow up to the other can hope 2s be upgraded thread.

    it was more a yes it can here is how .

    material costs were

    Switch approx £6
    Lflex driver £15
    leds approx £6.5 each so £13
    scrap of ali

    2 hours work but probably 1 hour now I know what to do .

    ir_bandito
    Free Member

    I reckon you can name your price 😉

    Its a lovely little housing, but is now a little outdated/under-gunned compared to other lights. Upgrade service sounds superb. You ought to sell the service to Hope!

    wombat
    Full Member

    I’m also very interested 🙂

    trout
    Free Member

    OK projected runtimes based on power draw from a 7.4 volt source
    and the surmise that it is a 2.4 mah battery

    level 1 only good for a commute light 60 hours
    level 2 slightly better commuter light 11 hours
    level 3 probably like the old leds 5 hours
    level 4 2 hours 15 mins
    level 5 just under an hour

    ir_bandito
    Free Member

    So how much does an hour of your time cost Mr Trout?

    scary_carey
    Free Member

    I’m also very interested. Great work by the way 🙂

    lipseal
    Free Member

    I’m interested too

    Rorschach
    Free Member

    So £90ish…..O.k.When?

    snowpaul
    Free Member

    I am interested too !

    paul

    juan
    Free Member

    And do you know if the very first joystick from USE can be updated?
    😀
    😀
    😀

    trout
    Free Member

    Juan

    if you want to send it to me I will have a look and see

    trout
    Free Member

    OK so here are a few approx stats

    there is not a chance the light housing can take the leds to their maximum
    so have been trying the lower drive currents to find a balance between heat and battery run time

    running at 2 amps drive max

    level 1 = 336 lumens approx runtime = 5 hours
    level 2 = 790 lumens approx runtime = 2.5 hours
    level 3 = 1344 lumens approx runtime = 1 hour

    so ok if you have a big battery or 2 small ones .

    turn the drive current down to 1.5 amps

    level 1 – 280 lumens approx runtime = 7 hours
    level 2 = 450 lumens approx run time = 3.hours
    level 3 = 1036 lumens approx runtime = 1 hour 45 mins

    Heat wise the driver will dim the light to level 1 if it gets to 60c
    not very likely in our evenings when moving along but it does dim dow quite fast sat on my desk

    I have enough drivers to do 19 conversions
    with no more available until mid november

    jonnyrockymountain
    Full Member

    Hi trout
    Very interested in the second option?
    How much?
    Jonny

    Mugboo
    Full Member

    I will wait till summer but doubling the 480 output sounds like a great idea to me. Nice one 🙂

    CHB
    Full Member

    Payment in Yorkshire Tea and Fat Rascals?

    trout
    Free Member

    Hell Conrad I am heavy enough as it is with out stuffing fat rascals 😉

    would trade for tea and coffee though

    wwaswas
    Full Member

    trout I’ve emailed you re: a Lupine Passubio (halogen) to LED conversion. Happy to be the guinea pig for a conversion experiment and I think there were a few other people interested for this lamp too. My email’s in profile.

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