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  • Flaperon
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    And yet…

    Well, deleted posts are not visible to other users…

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    cerrado-tu-ruido
    Full Member

    uBlock origin working since yesterday for me, think there’s a cat & mouse going on with Google.

    simondbarnes
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    Is that because I pay for YouTube Music

    No, I have a YouTube Music sub and get ads on YouTube.

    sirromj
    Full Member

    Bugger. Can’t watch youtube. Decisions decisions.

    tjagain
    Full Member

    Im getting warnings but that is all- the warnings can be dismissed.  I am as ever logged out of google and youtube

    sirromj
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    I could choose between enabling adverts, or paying the monthly fee, but to help me decide they let me watch 3 videos for free… One of them I did a page refresh without watching. So didn’t even manage to find anything interesting to watch!

    mattyfez
    Full Member

    I thought it was illegal to mention ad-blockers on STW?

    Or is that only in the context of browsing the STW website?

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    CountZero
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    I thought it was illegal to mention ad-blockers on STW?

    Or is that only in the context of browsing the STW website?

    I think the answer to that is fairly obvious. I may be wrong, though.

    dyna-ti
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    Im getting “Your watch history is off” and a link to update it. Naturally trying to keep it off just reverts you back to the “your watch history is off” so they most likely will only go back to full browse the vids/channels if you switch it on.
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    Typing in a subject will bring up relevant vids or if you have a link that works fine. Thank goodness for all those bookmarked YT vids.
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    I’ve got an adblocker running on youtube and what that appears to do is it allows the sound,but not the pictures of the ads in most of the cases. Or alternatively you can just wait about 15 seconds and the vid you want will come up, so you dont have to watch any ads
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    Big business ruins youtube. No surprises really.

    BruceWee
    Free Member

    Still having no problems with Brave Browser.

    doom_mountain
    Free Member

    I’ve been using Fadblock (recommended on here), works great. Fast forwards through the ads in a few frames, so I can watch as normal.

    I wouldn’t mind a few ads but it’s now 6 or 7 ad breaks in a ten minute video…

    brokenbanjo
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    I’ve got a YouTube sub and it comes with YouTube Music. So it’s circa £6 each for music and video. Of which I’d be paying £10 at least for a music sub from a competitor.  So seems a reasonable deal to me.

    squirrelking
    Free Member

    I have Spotify family for 14 quid, if YouTube weren’t so obnoxious then I’d consider subbing but I won’t now out of principle.

    andytherocketeer
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    Had a couple of cases in Brave again this week, where it complained about the blocker.

    Opening the vid in incognito worked fine, but just need to remember to disable the autoplay next vid.

    Using Firefox+Ublock (logged in) also worked fine, and then later both evenings Brave worked again.  Presumably just takes both devs a while to push out the latest filter updates.

    Smarttube on the Firestick has been working fine all the time.

    I do wonder how much Goggle/Youtube’s greed is going to cost small businesses, because in the last month or so, record numbers of users are actually finding out about such tools, and are suprised at how much better things look.

    I really cannot believe that people are accepting of 3 pre-roll ads, an ad at 1min where the vid had barely even been introduced! then another at 2 min in and then another, and I had to say enough is enough at 8min when I had another mid-roll.  imagine if ITV had that much ad spamming!  They’d have no viewers at all if that were the case. (Since Milka chocolate spammed me with 4 ads between clicking play and 8 mins in to a 20min vid, I shall personally be boycotting Milka)

    Poopscoop
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    @andytherocketeer

    Smarttube on the Firestick has been working fine all the time.

    Thank you! 👍

    flannol
    Free Member

    I’m pretty sure if youtube premium was £2.50, a very large amount of people would sub without even blinking

    I guess users are worth £12/mo to them in data / ad targeting though

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    irc
    Free Member

    “I really cannot believe that people are accepting of 3 pre-roll ads, an ad at 1min where the vid had barely even been introduced!”

    Exactly.  Which is why I watch Youtube on my 15″ laptop screen not my 55″ TV screen. Because I can’t get an adblcker for my TV.

    If I had to watch the adverts there is nothing that could persuade my to watch Youtube.

    Mark
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    What percentage of time would you say is ok for ads in any given video on YT. ie. How much of a 20 min video should be ads?

    tjagain
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    less than a minute

    I remain convinced that making ads more and more intrusive at some point becomes counterproductive

    I would much prefer a system of micropayments but no one seems to have made this happen yet

    Mark
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    I ask because the average ads per hour in US broadcast tv is 15 minutes per hour. Or 25% that would equate to 5 minutes on a 20 minute video.

    I’m not advocating that. It’s a shocking stat but it’s something we’ve become accustomed to with broadcast ad supported tv.

    verses
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    I like the YouTube app on my TV, but the recent change in Ad delivery on there is making me consider whether I can be bothered with it any more.

    As I mostly just watch “filler” vids, I don’t really have any desire to pay a big monthly sub – it’s not like it’s giving me Hollywood blockbusters or HBO boxsets.

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    Cougar
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    What percentage of time would you say is ok for ads in any given video on YT. ie. How much of a 20 min video should be ads?

    The issue I have with YouTube ads is there’s no logic to it. It’ll pop one out when the presenter is mid-sentence. If it was a natural break I wouldn’t care so much.

    I have never, ever seen an advert on YT’s desktop website. I was quite shocked when I started using it on mobile / console.

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    suburbanreuben
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    “I have Spotify family for 14 quid, “

    Do they show weird and wonderful live stuff yet? I cancelled it a few years back as their content was sadly lacking compared to Youtube, which I pay for, and listen and watch ad free….

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    irc
    Free Member

    I guess  evryone’s advert tolerance is different. There is very little I watch on ITV or other advert channels because adverts irritate me.

    Youtube? Has to be paid for somehow.  A 30s advert before a video starts I could live with.  Maybe a minute for bigger videos.

    Youtube adverts are more intrusive than TV adverts.  TV?  Adbreak – get the kettle on or check out Singletrack for two minutes.  Youtube, you can’t predict when they will appear.  

    But micropayments would be better. I subscribe here. Donateto a few sites. Subscribe to a couple of papers/magazines. Amazon Prime.  

    Youtube?   If adverts became unavoidable I’d just stop using it.

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    BruceWee
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    What percentage of time would you say is ok for ads in any given video on YT. ie. How much of a 20 min video should be ads?

    None.

    Mostly because I don’t think the business model of encouraging people down more and more extreme rabbit holes is healthy for individuals or for society.

    Personally I think creators should pay youtube for hosting and streaming their videos.  How content creators get paid for what they produce is up to them.  A lot of creators are pausing their own videos to do lengthy adverts themselves these days.  Others have Patreons.  Some are getting some payment from Brave users.

    Like I said, I think the period of giving away our data in return for free shit is over.  Hopefully it will result in more quality content.

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    Cougar
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    No, it’ll result in less content.

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    mc
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    I ask because the average ads per hour in US broadcast tv is 15 minutes per hour. Or 25% that would equate to 5 minutes on a 20 minute video.

    I’m not advocating that. It’s a shocking stat but it’s something we’ve become accustomed to with broadcast ad supported tv.

    One good thing about UK TV, is there are legal limits on advertising time, and they’re not that high for national channels.

    I do wonder at what point the likes of OFCOM will start looking at advertising times on online platforms?

    Poopscoop
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    I’m pretty sure if youtube premium was £2.50, a very large amount of people would sub without even blinking

    I guess users are worth £12/mo to them in data / ad targeting though

    You can get it for slightly cheaper than that but you need a virtual card and a VPN for the initial Turkish purchase.

    It’s what I’ll be doing when I finally have to pay.

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    andytherocketeer
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    25% is certainly a shocking stat, and may well be something that the US market has been accustomed too.

    For me, 0 ads would be acceptable, but can go with say 1 min per 20 min if bills need to be paid, so long as I can do the equivalent of TV, where I’d start watching later than the advertised time once I hear the opening credits, and leave the room for a slash at the 15/30min ad break.  Being 2 mins in and 3 ad slots done, and the vid barely even getting to actual content, and I’ve forgotten why I’d even hit play in the first place.

    And for ads by the actual content creator (sponsored stuff), those are acceptable so long as it is clear they are sponsored and not too excessive and actually relevant (ie not NordVPN, Surfshark, which are blatantly not entirely factual, or the near whole takeover of a vid to shill Chinese e-bikes with fat tyres, clearly the wrong size / one size fits all with the saddle right down).

    It would be interesting to see the stats of the losses incurred by innocent small businesses as a side effect of Youtube’s actions.  I know they are just trying to make their system actually financially viable too. I think I saw that it’s some paltry amount like 11% of Google’s revenue that comes from the massive spamming of youtube and with 45% commission rates too.  They are only as viable as they are because they are a practical monopoly and other business areas within Alphabet/Google compensate.

    When I finally have to pay, I’ll simply do the same that I did with Twitter.

    MSP
    Full Member

    There is a security warning for fadblock, for the users of that.

    mrmonkfinger
    Free Member

    One good thing about UK TV, is there are legal limits on advertising time, and they’re not that high for national channels.

    12 minutes per hour limit for straight commercial advertising, which, point of note – does not include (for instance) ads for other tv programmes on that channel (promotional material). That said, it must *average* at 8 minutes of commerical ads per broadcast hour – broadcast hours are easily bumped by having a few hours of a test card.

    So you can quite easily find 20 minutes per hour, of advert/trailer content on some of the crappier channels.

    bainbrge
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    It’s not just the frequency of adverts, it’s the content of them – 90% are scams linked to things like FX trading or crypto, or those stupid Chinese video cameras and special tools to escape from a sinking car. I really don’t get how YouTube seems to avoid getting dinged for things the ASA would fine ITV for.

    flannol
    Free Member

    Will be interesting to see if youtube is still around in 10 years, whether it ‘myspaces’ itself to irrelevance, or if google just pull it (they’re very good at pulling products)

    reluctantjumper
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    Just a heads-up that YouTube have decided to go to war on Adblockers again, pretty much every blocker is now having issues.  I disabled mine after trying a few different ones and it looks like they’ve upped that ad count too, I was 10 minutes into catching up with a livestream and by then I had well over 8 minutes of unskippable ads!  Tried a short video of 8 minutes and it took over 20 to watch it through, although I had completely lost interest in what it was about by then as the constant ad breaks made it completely unwatchable.

    Be interesting to see the response from all sides on this new attack.  How will the blockers respond? Are the advertisers going to see backlash from people about the frequency of the ads?  Will YouTube change the Premium offering?  It’s already had a price chop from £18.99 down to £12.99.

    darksideby182
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    They are also stopping you having a cheap YouTube premium sub for other countries. I have just had the email about my argentinian sub which is a family plan at around £3 a month but this stops from next month.

    If you don’t want ads on YouTube you can direct a VPN at Albania as they don’t have ads.

    sirromj
    Full Member

    Was unable to watch yesterday evening due using an adblocker, today no such problem, weird.

    GlennQuagmire
    Free Member

    Well oddly the I got the “this won’t work ‘cos you’re using an adblocker” message this morning, but it seems to be working okay now – no message and no ads.

    Maybe they have reverted the change?

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    CountZero
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    IMO they want me to pay to be a commodity more than a customer.

    And you’ve only just realised this?

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    andytherocketeer
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    definitely up to shenanigans again.

    last few days I’ve had an increase in banners inserted in to the recommended vids feed, so was half expecting such a Christmas present.

    yesterday had the “adblockers are against Youtube policy” thing, but worked fine if right-clicking and opening in incognito window, so I assume is related to being logged in.  That was in Brave, with its blocker rather than ublock origin.

    gave it a couple of hours, then made sure everything was updated in the browse, refreshed the Youtube page, and it all worked again.

    Still have firefox/librewolf +ublock origin as a backup, and Freetube and Smarttube

    Sandwich
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    Freetube is now allowing 4k streams on desktop and available for just about every platform though still officially in Beta. Mac users will need to allow it through the privacy & security portion of the settings app after every update.

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