Would you accept £10 to be silenced? (classifieds feedback).

I’ve bought/sold plenty on here over the years. If I’ve remembered I’ve left feedback on the thread to say.
Sold some Hope Minis a good while back. Chap emailed me to say he’d found a leak, turned out to be nothing & his bike shop confirmed it. He had a refund by return email, which he promptly sent back with re-payment.

I’m guessing its probably a financial issue for the seller. Fair enough, but should have come clean to the buyer. If this is the case then an agreement to make up the difference with what the buyer loses in selling them on, when funds allow etc. I can think of nothing worse than emails back & forth, would play on my mind. Call me soft, but I try to treat others as I’d like to be treated myself.

For what its worth I paid £75 for my Elixir CR’s, in a lot worse condition than those. I’d say £120 tops. Sell them on & chalk up to experience.

can i pay the dog £10 to do it again?

No it’s dead.

It has indeed all gone quiet over there.

George – you know where I am and you can see people’s opinions vindicate my own. As I said in one of my last emails… I’m not out to get money back from you for no reason hence my request for a full refund rather than partial to a value you don’t agree with – its that or nothing now. If you believed they were worth that when you sold them to me, you have no grounds to refuse.

Ok, I’ve heard both sides of the story, £50, I take the brakes for my bike, everyones a winner.

can i pay the dog £10 to do it again?

No it’s dead.

Something it bit?

No I think it had a tumour. 🙁

It has indeed all gone quiet over there.

He did say he was going to not bother with this thread any more, to be fair. So it’s you who’s actually carrying on this silliness.

Just out of interest, where do both parties stand, legally?

For me the brakes are in a ‘used but good condition’.

Good christ, are we still going? How many posts does it take for everyone to say the same thing?

Good christ, are we still going? How many posts does it take for everyone to say the same thing?

It’s going until we find a dog who’ll take on the job (£10 might not be enough to cover the risk though)

He did say he was going to not bother with this thread any more, to be fair

Where?

His position is indefensable. Even if they were in perfect nick, as long as the buyer hadnt used them, there’s an argument for refund provided the seller isn’t left out of pocket. In this case, it is very clear what the morally right thing to do is.

the morally right thing to do is

Does not appear the seller has any moral’s

Rule 3: http://www.apostrophe.org.uk/

yes. but i’m a mercenary nasty unfeeling bastard. bring on the frreee moneeee.

There is no free money Kev.

There is no free money….

Bit of wear on those brakes.

Maybe the seller slammed them into his stem?

But is that even a pic of the actual brakes Jimmy bought? That bit don’t seem clear.

Any pics of the rest of the brakes?

Fred. Bloke’s been ripped off. Go stroke the ego elsewhere eh?

Heh! Like you can tell me what to do! 😆

I’m still actually interested in the legal positions of both parties in this sort of situation actually. Got anything constructive to say about that, or have you come on here just to stroke my ego for me?

Whatever. After all, STW is all about you, innit?

Bye…

You need to find a GOOD seller..

I sold a roadie last week. Bloke recieved it and it’s damaged in transit. Even before he’d emailed me pics, i’d given him a full refucnd, so am currently out of pocket while i claim it back from the courier.

When you buy goods from a private individual, you don’t have the same rights as when buying from a trader. The legal principle of caveat emptor or “buyer beware” operates. You have no rights to expect goods to be of a satisfactory quality or fit for their purpose, so you should check goods thoroughly before you buy them. However, the law does say that even private sellers shouldn’t misrepresent goods to you. So if something has been misdescribed, you might have a claim. Seek further advice if necessary.

When you buy goods from a private individual, you don’t have the same rights as when buying from a trader. The legal principle of caveat emptor or “buyer beware” operates. You have no rights to expect goods to be of a satisfactory quality or fit for their purpose, so you should check goods thoroughly before you buy them. However, the law does say that even private sellers shouldn’t misrepresent goods to you. So if something has been misdescribed, you might have a claim. Seek further advice if necessary.

😕

Good christ, are we still going? How many posts does it take for everyone to say the same thing?

Do we know if realman posts on other forums? It might be good to post this link on other forums, save him doing the same again to another unlucky buyer. I used to enjoy rm’s posts, but shame he appears to be a scumbag. I hope he does the decent thing for the sellers sake.

Good christ, are we still going? How many posts does it take for everyone to say the same thing?

Good christ, are we still going? How many posts does it take for everyone to say the same thing?

Perhaps people are hoping that keeping the thread in sight with most people hoping rm does the right thing, might just help nudge him in the right direction to sort the buyer out. Or we could just accept that ripping folk off is fine on the classifieds.

Or we could just accept that ripping folk off is fine on the classifieds.

Woo-hoo!
*runs off to the bin and classifieds*

Fred et al…

The buyer has a claim insofar as the seller has misrepresented the goods. The description is vague but imo def states the brakes were in better nick than they actually are. The buyer’s loss is prob the difference in value.

If he was a Real Man, then he’d keep the money and tell the OP to **** off. Only a pussy would give him a refund. I’m counting on you RM!

😆

However, the law does say that even private sellers shouldn’t misrepresent goods to you. So if something has been misdescribed, you might have a claim.

But how feasible is this, in ‘real life’?

I imagine ittud be really quite difficult to sort things out in situations like this, as it often comes down to one person’s onion over another.

I once sold a medical centriguge on Ebay, stating that it ‘needed repair’. Was as honest as possible, wazunt trying to rip anyone off, wooduv bin happy with a fiver tbh.

Bloke who bought it also bought the fully working one I was also selling, then comes back with negative feedback cos he felt it were ‘item not as described’. It wooduv bin impossible to be any more honest about the thing really.

I offered him a full refund, apologised that it wazunt what he wanted, etc, but he preferred being an arsey knob instead, and left the only bit of negative feedback I’ve ever had. Which was unfair and it’s not possible for me to remove.

So, if things come down to mere onions, who arbitrates proceedings in such cases?

who arbitrates proceedings in such cases this case?

peers

Of the Realm?

But how feasible is this, in ‘real life’?

I imagine ittud be really quite difficult to sort things out in situations like this, as it often comes down to one person’s onion over anotherI think you’re right – though ebay has (fallible) protection and also “reputation” scoring
On here we have reputation and probably more importantly, from regular forum users, some sort of emotional investment in “the community”. Hence advice to only buy from regular forum users

… oh

Of the Realm?

No, he means Piers – Morgan

Our peers..

Peers of the realm of STW.. one or more of whom may or may not be Peers of the Realm and or Piers Morgan..

Why is Fred getting a slagging in the tags?

but he preferred being an arsey knob instead,

so many punchlines 😉

Why is Fred getting a slagging in the tags?

I thought that as well – seems a bit much TBH.

Why is Fred getting a slagging in the tags?

For daring to have an onion that differs from that of Little England, most probably. It’s usually the case. That, and folk aren’t actually capable of engaging in any form of polite discussion. Still, I mussunt be too hard on the Hard of Thinking I spose…

They help enhance my ego though, it’s ‘attention’, innit? 😀

I love the irony of people making statements about my ego, yet actually polishing it even further. 😆

They are against forum rules however, so I expect those who posted them will be getting warnings/ban. 😉

(£10 might not be enough to cover the risk though) i`ve got some money,and a couple of dogs if need be 😐