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Ae Forest, just over the border in Scotland.

Why would someone write that in a UK magazine?


 
Posted : 03/10/2013 8:04 pm
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Because it is a fact. 😉


 
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in preparation for 2014


 
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Why wouldn't they? It's just over the Scottish border.


 
Posted : 03/10/2013 8:07 pm
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for the same reason they go to Europe?


 
Posted : 03/10/2013 8:07 pm
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Why wouldn't they? It's just over the Scottish border.

not for me its not 🙄


 
Posted : 03/10/2013 8:08 pm
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Is this a trick question?


 
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[quote=dandax1990 ]Why wouldn't they? It's just over the Scottish border.
Not for 9% of the population [i]of the UK[/i] it isn't


 
Posted : 03/10/2013 8:08 pm
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To let people who may want to go there know where it is. Clever innit, this informative journalism?


 
Posted : 03/10/2013 8:08 pm
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And the alternative would be 'in Southern Scotland, near the border with England'?

Does it make such a huge difference?


 
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[quote=felt ]And the alternative would be 'in Southern Scotland, near the border with England'?
Does it make such a huge difference?
Well - your statement is accurate for the whole readership of the magazine, the original isn't.


 
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Why would someone write that in a UK magazine?

Well it's factually correct for 83% of the UK. So it's probably more correct than most things in the media 😀


 
Posted : 03/10/2013 8:11 pm
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If they said "just over the border" you wouldn't know which one

If they said "just over the Scottish border" it could be in England

If they said "just in Scotland" some touchy woad-bedaubed and kilted barbarian would take offence at the possibility that it meant "merely in Scotland"

Can't win really 😉


 
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😆


 
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Well obviously it should have said "just inside the Scottish border". What were they thinking ?


 
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Is this a trick question?

Only for the english


 
Posted : 03/10/2013 8:12 pm
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Wait a year and it'll have to say 'just over the frontier'


 
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It is accurate from the perspective of the writer.


 
Posted : 03/10/2013 8:13 pm
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felt » And the alternative would be 'in Southern Scotland, near the border with England'?
Does it make such a huge difference?
Well - your statement is accurate for the whole readership of the magazine, the original isn't.

Damn, I'm in the wrong job 😆


 
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Really? Is this is a thing now?


 
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The OP earlier.
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Posted : 03/10/2013 8:14 pm
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Article should have just said -
AE forest, just around 55° 14? 0? N, 3° 35? 0? W


 
Posted : 03/10/2013 8:15 pm
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Why not: "...in Dumfries and Galloway"- ?


 
Posted : 03/10/2013 8:16 pm
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Why do English people do what, write factually accurate articles?


 
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Why not: "...in Dumfries and Galloway"- ?

I don't know where Dumfries and Galloway is. Is it just over the border in Scotland ?


 
Posted : 03/10/2013 8:18 pm
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No, it is just inside the English border.


 
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Ernie- that was quite funny.


 
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How do you know they're English?


 
Posted : 03/10/2013 8:22 pm
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no, just over the border is Carlisle.


 
Posted : 03/10/2013 8:23 pm
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no, just over the border is Carlisle.

I thought it was Berwick.


 
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Yes, but Carlisle used to be in Scotland.


 
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Berwick is bi-directional is it not? or almost...


 
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Yes, but Carlisle used to be in Scotland.

I thought it was Berwick.


 
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[quote=kcal ]Berwick is bi-directional is it not? or almost...
Depends if you're Russian


 
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Who owns the bit between the 'Welcome to Scotland' and 'Welcome to England' signs? Youngest_oab suggest it *must* be Wales.


 
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How do you know they're English?

um,um, oh never mind


 
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because they show the same level of stupidity as you 😉


 
Posted : 03/10/2013 8:29 pm
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Depends if you're Russian

They're friends again now.


 
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Yes, but Carlisle used to be in Scotland.
I thought it was Berwick.

Carlisle used to be Berwick?


 
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"30 minutes north of the scottish border" would be just fine. Since there is only one scottish border.

Saying it's in D&G won't work for ignerant suvverners, these are the people who call everything above the watford gap "the north" after all.


 
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Only for the english

Is that a trick answer?


 
Posted : 03/10/2013 8:33 pm
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Carlisle used to be Berwick?

Other way around.


 
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I don't think there is a border 'in Scotland', perhaps at the edge of 🙂


 
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Is that a trick answer?

Only if you are english

here all night etc


 
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What if you are coming from Northern Ireland or Ireland? It is more than 30 miles.


 
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Depends if you're Russian

Gosh! school history lesson comes flooding back


 
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If the writer had been in Scotland at the time of writing I'm sure they would have written with appropriate relativism.


 
Posted : 03/10/2013 8:38 pm
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how do you pronounce Ae anyway?
is it ay-ee (this is how it sounds in my head)
or is it ee?
or aye?


 
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Eh?


 
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What if you are coming from Northern Ireland or Ireland? It is more than 30 miles.

84mls from Cairnryan 😉
http://www.theaa.com/route-planner/classic/planner_places_redirect.jsp

Shall we get wee Eck to have a debate in Holyrood 🙄


 
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Eh?

Eh Forest.
interesting.


 
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'A'
As in 'May', without the M.


 
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I can't believe I wasted 2 minutes of my life reading this thread!


 
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I can't believe I wasted 2 [s]minutes [/s] seconds of my life reading this [s]thread![/s] post

If the writer had been in Scotland at the time of writing I'm sure they would have written with appropriate relativism.

Seen the lakes described as just over the border in England recently then Molly?


 
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Where the **** is Berwick? Or for that matter Carlisle?

Are we humouring the provincials again?


 
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they are so far away you cannot see them from any corner of your estate


 
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I can't believe I wasted 2 minutes of my life reading this thread!

Will you come back though, to see if people respond to your post? Little bit more time wasted eh? Not that you'd admit to coming back and reading this post...


 
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[quote=brakes ]
Eh Forest.
interesting.

"Where are you going today?"
[i]"I'm off to Ae Forest"[/i]
"Yes - but which one?"


 
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Depends on the context surely?

If they are writing from a personal perspective then it's is perfectly fine. e.g.:
[i]"For our next trip we headed to Ae Forest, just over the border in Scotland."[/i]

But if it is an impersonal perspective, making a assumption about where the [b]reader[/b] is e.g.:
[i]"Where To Ride This Month: try Ae Forest, just over the border in Scotland."[/i]

then I completely understand the OP's irritation (though I fully expect those just over the border in England to dismiss it as small country syndrome).


 
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Eh Forest

It's in Liverpool?


 
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Will you come back though, to see if people respond to your post? Little bit more time wasted eh? Not that you'd admit to coming back and reading this post...

No way, never catch me doing that. 😳


 
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I'm just over the border in Wales and every now and again I nip back over the boreder to England.


 
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Oh dear god.


 
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Going for a camping break in North Wales tomorrow. Long drive though.
From just over the border in the Borders we will be heading over the border continuing to our destination just over the border. Great stuff.


 
Posted : 03/10/2013 9:03 pm
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This is now bordering on complete madness


 
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This thread is now bordering on the ridiculous 😀

Damn beaten to it....


 
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Seriously. Do you really think this is just an English thing? Most journos write the story as it appears to them. There is an awful lot of 'just along the M4' type of writing. It is a natural thing to do & most people write that way.


 
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Do you really think this is just an English thing?

I think the OP is a bit sensitive.


 
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Do you really think this is just an English thing?
I think the OP is a bit sensitive.

He's showing signs of borderline sensitivity


 
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Is the OP Scottish? Is it one of those English/Scottish hate things?


 
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Utter barstads

http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/Food-and-drink/Food-Focus/The-great-British-menu-20130924135645.htm

just across the border in Suffolk


 
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Where will it end


 
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Is the OP Scottish? Is it one of those English/Scottish hate things?

Yeah. The Scottish* [i]hate[/i] it when UK media assumes they are English.

I'd imagine if the same media constantly assumed that everyone was Scottish it would likewise annoy the English*

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* (and Welsh and Northern Irish)**

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** (who probably also hate being put in footnotes as an afterthought)


 
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Is the OP Scottish? Is it one of those English/Scottish hate things?

we've all been thinking it.......


 
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only if you are english


 
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It is a little tiny thing. But, it's a little tiny thing that the [i]uk[/i] media does pretty much all the time. So that can get a little tiresome.


 
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Saying it's in D&G won't work for ignerant suvverners, these are the people who call everything above the watford gap "the north" after all.

When it's at least a hundred miles north, it's the north, innit. Same as everything at least a hundred miles to the east is the east. And places that are at least a hundred miles to the south and south-west, well, you get the gist.
Really! 🙄


 
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Where will it end
Gretna ??


 
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[img] [/img]


 
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only if you are [s]english[/s] a tinsy bit up tight


 
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