What're the chances of this going ahead (contraversial content)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/wiltshire/8437658.stm

Oh dear, not going to end well is it?

I can see them[/url] joining the fun. Holy sheets!

Say anything bad and you will be branded a racist by the STW sandal wearing do gooders

be warned

Oh dear indeed 🙁

I dont see whats wrong with it. If Muslim troops were in the UK dropping 2,000lb bombs on British wedding celebrations with innocents killed on a regular basis we'd all be up in arms against them wouldnt we?

If this Islamic group feel so strongley then why don't they f^ck off and go and live in an Islamic state and leave us alone…and yes I know we are over in islamic countries fighting a war that we shouldn't be. Lets face it these islamic groups do anything to cause trouble. Not a peacefull religion IMO. 😈

It is a peaceful religion – it is the lunatic disaffected fringe that carry out violent acts.

How about implementing laws equivalent to those in some Muslim countries? Not a RC goer? Stone him publicly. Wears a beard? Kick him out of the country. A woman with no tits on display? Make her read Daily Mail.
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best possible outcome is to let them march and have the streets deserted.

When did we become a militarised society?

Other small towns exist,for a demonstration.

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When did we become a militarised society?

Or should you say " when did we become pro British"

They are just trying to push the boundaries of this countries tollerance.

I dont agree with our boys being out there. But these islamic groups are just using this as an excuse to further their own agenda.

I wonder what the brave guys on the front line think of this type of thing happening back home? If I were them Id wonder why was I bothering risking life and limb in the name of these type of people back home.

Out of interest, how many British-asians are serving in the British forces? the casualty list seems to suggest very few or none at all.

Too Tall – Could do with hearing a bit more from the peaceful devoted condemning the extremists IMO

tyger – we'd not listen. They are condemned, but don't get the publicity in the media. The Islamic community leaders are pretty vocal within their community – which is where it is needed.

Well we should support the right to demonstrate I suppose; but then we should also be prepared to demonstrate if we disagree.

It is interesting that such anger is raised by these so called Islamic extremist groups when the blatantly neo- Nazi English Defense League(I think thats what they are called) seems to turn up at friday prayers at the Harrow mosque in a deliberate provocative manner. Double standards IMO.

Play the 'shop scene' from This is England on huge screens with a PA system.

They do have a legal right to protest regardless of how much you or I disagree. There does seem to be an irony that they're choosing to protest about our conduct when such a protest in their idealised Islamic society would be illegal.

I have a feeling that if this goes ahead there will be a severe and violent backlash against the protesters and will likely be banned by the police beforehand. Which leaves me ambivalent anyway because I despise the laws banning protests.

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If Muslim troops were in the UK dropping 2,000lb bombs on British wedding celebrations with innocents killed on a regular basis we'd all be up in arms against them wouldnt we?

We would indeed.

And guess how well it would go down if we tried to demonstrate against it in Kabul?

Bollocks its a peaceful religion, even the Spanish inquisition were tame in comparision to the origions of Islam, and for **** sake dont voice your opinion about it as they'll send a nutter to kill you.

@ hairy chested. 'This is England – Shop Scene' into YouTube. Controversial at best!

I'm going out on the town in abit. I suggest some of you would benefit from getting out abit more.

Just to add. Why should it go ahead? Soldiers go out there to do a job. They signed up for the armed forces knowing it may come to death/injury (of course no one wants to die). However innocents out there have no choice- they die and there doesnt seem a let up does there?

Iraq? Toppling Saddam brought what? Constant **** bombings of innocent civillian lives in the hundreds every month.

What has Blair achieved? Why did we invade these countries again? If you are Muslim- what would you feel? Perspective fellas. Going abroad and kicking down peoples doors isnt going to stop resentment is it?

If you are truly patriotic you should be petitioning the Government as to why we are churning through lives and is the conflict really winnable after the Soviet-lesson?

An absolute peach, thanks!
BTW Am I allowed to laugh watching it as a non-Brit? 😉

Dales_rider – you are today's small-minded, ill educated bigot and I claim my £10.

the Soviet/Afghan 'lesson' is not the only one we/oour glorious leaders should be learning from.

I think there was a British/Afghan lesson to be learnt from back in the 19th Century.

When will people learn? Afghanistan cannot be "conquered", as it is, in large parts away from the bigger cities, tribal and possibly even feudal.

Take away one government & replace it with another, any flavour, it will make bugger all difference out in the hills

While they are there we should support our troops, at the same time making it bloody clear to the outgoing government here what we really think of it all.

And to get back on topic, "I disagree with what you say but I'll fight for your right to say it". John Lennon? Mark Twain?

"Iraq? Toppling Saddam brought what? Constant **** bombings of innocent civillian lives in the hundreds every month. "

I think you'll find it is their own people doing that to them, they can't even agree which version of islam is best FFS so what chance do any infidels/non beliveers/sane people have of getting along with them?

why we are churning through lives and is the conflict really winnable after the Soviet-lesson?

Good point alas history has taught us ( our politicians that is )nothing

John, a very valid post. Well put.

The quote is often attributed to Voltaire, but I believe it was Evelyn Hall, in fact, paraphrasing Voltaire.

Lately, it seems the whole Wootton Basset thing has turned into a bit of grief tourism for some of the people there.

They have a right to march under British law, so there's not really a lot we can do about it.

The Police, rather than banning the march, should be looking to have enough of a presence on the ground to ensure the safety of the marchers.

If necessary, the cost of this should be passed on to the organisers, who in this case are Islam4UK.

I don't support any group that claims to be a platform for extremists, whatever their religion, but I do support their right to protest.

I'm ex-forces (or ex-paid oppressor as my brother's father in law insists on calling me) and, if I'm honest, I didn't really care what people back home in the UK said or thought when I was out in the Gulf in '91. Having said that, it was a lot less dangerous then!

It is indeed a provactive gesture but that is the nature of democracy we do allow peacful protest iirc. If you support free speeech you must support those you opposse /dislike the most.
We cant really argue with the fact that our state has killed more innocent Muslims than Muslims have killed innocent ones of us and yet we call them names for being aggressive and not liking peace.

they can't even agree which version of islam is best FFS

much like Catholics and Protestants then?

let them march, just remember that freedom of speech is not the freedom to insult

Islam… Schmizlam, what an absolute croc!

I think they're in danger of turning this into a religious debate – in reality thousands of civilians are sufffering as a result of this war. I'm not in agreement of us being their but I do strongly support our selfless armed forces and doff my cap to them all.

Whenever someone says civilian casualties I do not immediately think of a group of muslims, I think of people, who have families themselves and are expected home just like the rest of us are. It's my understanding that we invaded under the pretext of acting againsst terrorism, which happens to be carried out by a lot of extremists proclaiming themselves to be acting in the name of islam, and not with the express intention of wiping followers of islam off the planet. I think this groups intersts would be better served if they highlighted this, rather than turning it into a point of religion. I really do hate religious arguments……everyone thinks they're right…

What I find rather ironic about the planned protest is that it wasn't so far back that the Taliban had a lot of control in Afganistan. Y'know, the bunch that aren't keen on rights or education for women (which in itself would appear to be contrary to the Koran..) – tho' the situation is only slowly improving in this respect.

another "hot" topic, some things are set to remain the same in 2010 then

Sadly, I have yet to show my own support at WB, something I fully intend to rectify this month.
Now that we have passed the 100 milestone and are into the bleak months, it's time to stand up and be counted in a quiet and dignified manner.
However, I have no issue with an organised march drawing attention to the loss of life in country.

Hopefully the various services will be there with video cameras and taking notes. Followed by a spot of rendition to somewhere sunny for a while.