What would the UK be like now if Germany had won WW2?

With big dummy up to the point about the Jews,the Nazis only decided to exterminate them in 1941,up to then they favoured repatriation.One of the reasons Germany struggled in Russia was the fact that they were over commited elsewhere; (propping up the Italians in Africa for a start.)I think without this,and having fewer drains on their resources,and better routes of supply,they would have stopped Russia developing the capacity for manufacture that they needed to stop the Germans.They had tank factories way beyond the range of German bombers that churned out four tanks for every one the Germans did.Plus the fact the German infrastructure was becoming increasingly affected by bombing by late 1941.The sheer scale of Russia made this difficult (plus,what infrastructure)

I have always been interested what Hess was supposed to be bringing to the UK.And why he was locked up until he died.

Herr Lynch;I thought we got all of your lot after the Riechstag fire…

From the point were Hitler turned away from Calais there was never a chance that the Germans were going to win. All military wisdom is to avoid war on two fronts. Hitler actually chose to open up on three, Africa, Western Europe and Russia. Having split his forces he was screwed….. am I the only person here to play Risk?? 😯

I have always been interested what Hess was supposed to be bringing to the UK.

Warm fraternal best wishes and greetings from Herr Hitler to the British aristocracy, Conservative Grandees, and Royal Family, I believe.

am I the only person here to play Risk??

Nope. I guess he should have actually invaded Oz – two extra armies per turn and only one route of entry! (And noone ever managed to keep Asia)

some things wouldn’t change

For a view of what Germany would be like if they won WW2, read Fatherland by Robert Harris. Awesome book just finished it.

Indeed! And in that book, set in the mid ’60s the Nazi empire is just about to start crumbling as cracks appear in the propaganda machine.

cracks appear in the propaganda machine.

So they never did a deal with Rupert Murdoch then ?

btw I had no idea that the Nazi Empire was held together by a “propaganda machine”. Did they French, Dutch, Yugoslavs, etc, not know that it was just “propaganda” ?

Nazi Empire was held together by a “propaganda machine”

It is in the book above ^^^^^

Big Dummies sounds like the best story so far…

Had Britain settled for a negotiated peace in June 1940 Hitler would not have waited as late as he did to kick off Barbarossa and therefore would likely have captured Moscow.

Cut off without allies and having lost Moscow the Japanese may well have been tempted to take chunks from a now weakened Russia.

We could play these games all night, Harry Turtledove’s books are worth a look if you like alternate history. You want Hitler kicking off WW2 early or alien reptile invaders in WW2? You’ve got it!

There is also an Aussie author who wrote a story about a 21st century carrier group getting transported back to the Battle of Midway…

The scenario we’ve forgotten so far is the Far East, as we were also fighting (and being beaten by in the colonies) Japan, allied to Germany.
With Germany taking over our Atlantic colonies, including Canada’s coaling ports in Newfoundland & Nova Scotia, plus having access to bases in the Caribbean, it’s probable that Japan would also have walked into British Columbia.

As a result, a more concerted effort against the US would have allowed bombing not just of Pearl Harbour, but of Seattle’s & LA’s aircraft industry and the US Pacific ports. The German fleet could have kept the US Atlantic fleet in their home ports – I think that the US would have been divided between Germany & Japan eventually.

Had Britain settled for a negotiated peace in June 1940 Hitler would not have waited as late as he did to kick off Barbarossa and therefore would likely have captured Moscow

Why would Operation Barbarossa have been more successful in June 1940 than in June 1941 ?

With Germany taking over our Atlantic colonies, including Canada’s coaling ports

Canada was not a colony. How would Germany have defeated Canada ?

Yeah sure, if Germany had defeated everyone they were fighting against, then I guess that the World would be a different place today. But WW2 would not have finished simply because Britain had been defeated/neutralised.

The scenario we’ve forgotten so far is the Far East, as we were also fighting (and being beaten by in the colonies) Japan, allied to Germany.
With Germany taking over our Atlantic colonies, including Canada’s coaling ports in Newfoundland & Nova Scotia, plus having access to bases in the Caribbean, it’s probable that Japan would also have walked into British Columbia.

As a result, a more concerted effort against the US would have allowed bombing not just of Pearl Harbour, but of Seattle’s & LA’s aircraft industry and the US Pacific ports. The German fleet could have kept the US Atlantic fleet in their home ports – I think that the US would have been divided between Germany & Japan eventually.

I’m not buying any of that scenario.