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I ride occasionally with someone who is well paid but terminally mean. In the post ride pub visit he always times it to avoid sticking his hand in his pocket. It's beginning to irritate me to the point of not wanting to ride with him. What comment/joke would you make to such a person to snap them out of it and make them understand that they too need to contribute to the common good?
"You round first you've never paid for one yet"
"Put your bloody hand in your pocket you stingy b*stard. It's not appreciated."
Drac +1
Molgrips +1
Just dump them.
They never, ever learn, seem to think it's funny or take it as some backhanded compliment.
Just get rid, it's the easiest way.
Oi tight-arse, bar now!
Yes. One of my regular tight-arse Yorkshire riding 'friends' is very guilty of this. I believe its been mentioned before. No names. No pack drill etc eh Hora? I know we joke about it on here but he's as tight as a gnats chuff. He NEVER got a round in. EVER! It really gets my bloody goat too!.
Anyway... In a moment of inspiration I hit on the perfect way to stop it. When we arrived at the pub, I pulled my lock out of my camelbak and locked my bike to his. I then informed him that I wasn't going to be unlocking it until he got the beers in
It worked 😀
I have a friend like this (not well paid though), we & another friend went to a small concert. 2nd friend went to buy his 2nd round, after the 'skin flint' not buying one, 2nd friend just missed him out of the round without saying anything.
'Skin flint' got the idea and brought the next round.
I just wouldn't buy him a drink at the pub.
Skin flint is a nasty term for a friend though, I just describe my friend as being careful with money. He mananged to buy himself a house lately, which for single person on a lower than average wages [that a joke in itself] is quite an achievment - fair play to him.
Just don't buy him a drink. Then when he asks where his is, ask him when the last time he bought for you was?
I've a mate who's exactly like this. He earns at least double my salary, and he's tight to the point of subtly walking slower when he gets near to a pub door so that someone else will go in first and thus arrive at the bar ahead of him.
Another party trick is to be the last to buy a round and then try to end the night just before his round comes round again, so he's bought n-1 compared to everyone else.
After knowing him for about 20 years, I can say that the only successful strategy I've ever found is a firm, direct, "go to the bar you c--t." Works every time.
Yep...just tell him. Then stand there waiting for him to buy a round.
If he's got no money, then get him a tap water.
I always turn up late to the bar and everyone always has a round in by the time I get there. I don't do it on purpose, it's just my life's a bit full and I tend to be late everywhere.
I hate buying rounds though, it means you're stuck having to leave when everyone else does and stuck buying bob his £5 a shot mixer when you're on a £2 pint. It's too much trouble to be honest, I avoid it at all costs and just go buy my own drinks. Rounds system only develops because people can't be arsed getting up to go to the bar or because the bar is crowded - just pick a less crowded bar.
TBH, the only time I enter a 'rounds' agreement is when it's a couple of mates going out for a few ales. If there's a dozen of you going for cocktails, someone is always going to get gouged.
"Are you getting these in ?" when walking to the bar, is the easiest thing to say.
If he says "no I can't I haven't any money on me", I would say "OK, I'll get these". But if it happened again, I would say "but you said that last time" and would buy my own.
The chances are though, that he'll say "sure, what are you having".
Don't be shy otherwise [i]some[/i] people will take the piss. Although it's always better/nicer to be generous than mean and tight-fisted like Derek Starship, so either way you win and he loses.
First out of the car, last to the bar.
Rounds system only develops because people can't be arsed getting up to go to the bar or because the bar is crowded
I think some people like to buy their friends drinks and to enjoy the bonhomie of the communal pub experience.
I think some people like to buy their friends drinks and to enjoy the bonhomie of the communal pub experience.
Bit pointless isn't it, in a good round situation everyone returns the favour, you might as well have bought it yourself and there'd be less aggro and "ooh he's not paid, ooooh why's he last to the bar" handbag nonsense. You don't buy to receive.
Ha! and there's me thinking this thread'll be about all the well paid software engineers and marketing types that either don't shop locally or come in and haggle over the price of a mech to go on their four grand bike to save their holiday..... Silly me 😉
I think some people like to buy their friends drinks and to enjoy the bonhomie of the communal pub experience.
You know, I'm glad you said that. Because I'll go to the bar and say "what are you having" to a mate, not because I want to start a round system, but because [i]I want to buy a drink for a mate.[/i] I always thought I was a bit of a freak for thinking that.
in a good round situation everyone returns the favour
Indeed, however it can be seriously disadvantageous to someone who doesn't drink alcohol, or very small amounts of it. Sometimes people go to a pub expecting to spend very little on only a few soft drinks, and end up having to shell out much more, and often they might simply not have the money on them. For those reasons they should be respected when they express a wish to buy the their own.
What Drac said. End of.
it can be seriously disadvantageous to someone who doesn't drink alcohol
There speaks someone who hasn't bought a pint of Coke in a pub in the last ten years.
however it can be seriously disadvantageous to someone who doesn't drink alcohol, or very small amounts of it
Pft! I can't imagine having friends like that 😀
To be fair, I only know one (afore-mentioned) person who's (unbelievably) stingy on that front. Normally it's the polar opposite. "I'll get these", "No, your ok, I'll get 'em" etc etc. That's probably one of the reasons they're my mates
Had one or two tightarse mates who seem loathe to get a round in, and need to be encouraged, but then sometimes someone might not have the money for it, so it's no big deal. Such people tend to always insist on getting a round in when they're more sorted though, so it balances out. Have to say, WCA off here is the opposite, in fact you have to tell him [i]not[/i] to buy you a pint (when you've already had several and need to be able to see straight to get home safely..).
It's birds what get my goat though. Some of 'em [i]never[/i] get a round in. Have that outdated expectation that it's blokes what buy ladies drinks. Many a night I've bitten me lip cos of this.
Did Sylivia Pankhurst sruggle in vain? Get yer purses out yer tight bints!
dont buy rounds?
Have to say, WCA off here is the opposite, in fact you have to tell him not to buy you a pint (when you've already had several and need to be able to see straight to get home safely..).
You're not bloody kidding there Fred. Has he told you about the 'incident' I had on the way home after meeting him in Manchester for a 'couple' of beers?
He did Binners, he did. 😆
I'd've ended up in clink for that. How on Earth did you get away with it??
I remember him calling his wife, from a pub inGreenwich, to tell her he'd be home by 8.
I think it was around 2am when the cab dropped him outside his house. 😀
In the case I flagged up, often there's three of us riding. We all drink the same(ish) ale so no cost difference. The offending person earns mid 40s and is in his 20s. He does the slow walk into the pub, wants to stop at 2 pints when there is three of us. He once proudly told me of when his dad worked in the motor industry he would not join a union but was pleased as punch that other workers would go on strike to get him a pay rise. He was a bit surprised when I referred to him as a scab. The offending person also votes Tory.
You getting the picture?
We usually have a kitty with everyone chipping in enough to cover what they're expecting to drink at the start of the pub stop. Anyone taking the p155 gets named and shamed.
Looking back the following morning I don't know how the hell i got away with it. It had 'night in the cells' written all over it.
Thats another one of my lives gone eh? 😉
i dont drink so i dont do rounds
I would go for the very blunt verbal approach followed by not buying them a drink
We used to have a mate who always was happy to come to the pub with his mates (us) and quietly whisper in your ear "byus a pint I have no money"
I knew he had no money and no job so I gave him a job working for us and he still asked everyone to "byus a pint I have no money" at that point I terminated the friendship (and the job he was useless), some 12 years later my social circle still afectionally refer to him as byus, LOL
I dont have much money at this present time and if I cant afford to buy a drink back I will kindly decline any offer, its only fair.
"Did you pass the bar on your way to the toilet?"
"Yes"
"Next time you pass, get a round in"
"Did you pass the bar on your way to the toilet?"
"Yes"
"You'd better see a doctor, that might be serious"
I don't think it matters what the person earns though - if someone is willing to go to a pub and accept a drink from someone, they should be prepared to buy one back irrespective of their salary. If you can't afford to go to a pub, don't step in the door.
When we have a work night out we just do a kitty, everyone puts £20 in, and then the new boy has to go to the bar each time. That works well, for all but one of us anyway.
There speaks someone who hasn't bought a pint of Coke in a pub in the last ten years.
😕 There speaks me........and why the **** would I buy "a pint of Coke in a pub" ?
Go on tell me ......I'm intrigued.
Because you can enjoy going to the pub without consuming alcohol?
I just wouldn't buy him a drink at the pub.
this
Ernie. I don't think he was saying you were gay or owt.
I think he was merely pointing out that a pint of coke in the pub comes in at the same, or more, as a pint of wifebeater. Thus rendering it the most utterly pointless and stupid purchase in the world
why the **** would I buy "a pint of Coke in a pub" ?Go on tell me ......I'm intrigued.
Er, because [i]you [/i]were talking about buying soft drinks in a pub. That was your entire point. To wit,
it can be seriously disadvantageous to someone who doesn't drink alcohol, or very small amounts of it. Sometimes people go to a pub expecting to spend very little on only a few soft drinks, and end up having to shell out much more
So, I'm confused. One minute you're arguing about the price of alcohol against the price of soft drinks when buying rounds, but in your next post you're saying that you've never actually bought one yourself and are getting argumentative at the very notion that someone might accuse you of being thirsty.
Have I got that right or am I just being slow and missing something here?
@ binners :
Ahh, right............. I thought he was having a pop at me 😀
BTW, a "pint" of coke ? 😐
EDIT : He [b][u]is[/u][/b] having a pop at me ! 😀
I'm not, but I'm starting to think I should be! Er, can we start that again?!
Sure, go ahead..........have a pop at me if you want.
I don't mind really 🙂
I think he was merely pointing out that a pint of coke in the pub comes in at the same, or more, as a pint of wifebeater. Thus rendering it the most utterly pointless and stupid purchase in the world
Not in the pubs I frequent, pint of coke is about 1.50, any alcohol will set you back 2.20+. Plus if you're driving, or on medication, or just don't fancy alcohol....
Not in the pubs I frequent, pint of coke is about 1.50, any alcohol will set you back 2.20+. Plus if you're driving, or on medication, or just don't fancy alcohol....
+1, coke always <£2, pint always >£2.80
Come on now chaps, keep the pugilism for the meanies.
Did somebody look at Ernie's pint of Coke? 😯
OUTSIDE NOW!
I wouldn't have that, Ernie. He's basically insulted your entire family. And if you let it slide, then it means you're soft as [b]delicious, home churned butter from the hills of Wales[/b], and his bitch.
I'm just sayin' like. Pubs must make an absolute mint out of [s]gayers[/s] people who don't drink though. £2+ for some sugary syrup that has carbonated water added to it at the pump. Its costing them literally nothing.
Compared with say £2.80 for a pint of something that has been through a brewing process, then has a lot of tax and duty slapped on it
Just saying. Hang on..... how did i get involved in this argument?
Oi Fred. That bloke over there called your pint of Lime & soda a puff
Yep - I have actually seen pub landlords soil themselves* with excitement when people buy a cola from their 'Wunderbar'. IIRC the cost of a box of syrup is something like £40 and it makes pints and pints and pints of revolting stuff whose only resemblance to cola is that it is called cola. It certainly doesn't taste like the same (real?) thing.
*Not the truth
Do what? Where is he? I'll bloody batter the bastid!
(Glasses a completely innocent bystander by mistake)
[i][b]"Do what?"[/b][/i]
^ classic kicking off talk
Tell you what.
Seeing as it's you lot, I'll endeavour to do some research. I shall force myself to visit one of these "public houses" tonight - in fact, I'd better visit several just to get a broad sample base - and enquire as to the price of their soft drinks.
I shall of course need to purchase some of their wares in order to avoid offence, and as I'm led to believe from comments on here that Coke from a pub is "the most utterly pointless and stupid purchase in the world" it shall have to be an ale or six.
Nevertheless, I shall attempt to force it down, and spend the evening traipsing around an old East Lancashire mill town in the dark until an advanced state of mental incompetence brings on a sudden chemical requirement for a dirty pizza and you're all my best mates you ffuuu...
Anyway. I hope you all appreciate the sacrifices I'm prepared to make so that the denizens of STW shall be provided with factual, uh, facts on which to base their discussions.
Cougar - Your self sacrifice on our collective behalves is greatly appreciated sir
You're a real martyr.
Incidentally: Which East Lancs town you out in fella? I was out that neck of the woods conducting similar research myself last night. Very scientific it was too 😀
I think we should have a whip-round for Cougar - after all he is doing this for US and giving up his own free time to do so.
As there are 27 contributors, I say £3 from each of us - that's £78 which should cover ales, a dirty kebab and a taxi home.
Scientific Research Funding cut due to Big Society though. 🙁
(Discovers is barred from pub. Has no idea why...)
IIRC the cost of a box of syrup is something like £40
Back in the early 90s I was privy to the pricing of "post-mix" or "Bag-in-Box" soft drinks (which is what you're referring to) in a, well, in a bowling alley. The biggest jumbo-colossal serving they sold, which must be getting on for almost a litre, cost us nine pence in total ingredients. Worth bearing in mind next time you're at your local megaplex and they're asking three quid a pop.
Which East Lancs town you out in fella?
Tonight, I shall mostly be in Blackburn if all goes to plan. Where were you?
I think we should have a whip-round for Cougar...
£78 which should cover ales, a dirty kebab and a taxi home.
I live in Accrington, for £78 I could probably buy all that and still have change left over for a mucky woman.
Blackburn? With £78 you could probably buy a house, thus negating the need for a taxi home 🙂
I was out in Rammy last night. Technically I can't class it as research as i didn't inquire into the soft drinks prices. Shame that really. I could have applied to the Big Society Bank for a loan to fund it.
they're asking three quid a pop
Quide lidderalee 'pop'
🙂
I can't wait to get out of Blackburn - bring on the end of the working day!
I was out in Rammy last night.
Wow. I've not been there in years. Does that bloke off Emmerdale still own the pub in the middle?
I'd readily give a mate 10/20quid. I am however disorganised and I always shy away from rounds in pubs. Why?
I was an epic drinker in my late teens to late 20's.
Someday this aspect may comeback and royally kill me.
Hence I drink as light as possible now when out. Last Sat night me and bingo went to our local and I had to pints of ale before going home.
Yes, yes, indeed oh enigmatic one, but none of that is the issue here is it?
Let me give you an example: The other week you were more than happy to let me buy you a pint and then when I asked/told you it was your round, you said you didn't have any cash on you, and as good as snuck out of the back door of the pub
Its not the first time either. Frankly, its not on!! It may or may not surprise you to learn that you were getting a right slagging on your pimpernel-like disappearance, and not just from me.
I'm naming and shaming you on here so that you mend your ways. Being from Yorkshire is one thing. Relying on your mates to fund your trips to the pub, isn't!
There!! That's you told! SORT IT OUT!! And then let that be an end to the frightful matter 😀
Think thats a bit different fom the situation described by the OP though Hora. No problem with folk up front not wanting to join a round [i]Whatever[/i] their reasons, but when tight arse happily scarfs 5 pints then slinks off into the night not hving returned the favour? Nae need!
Binners I'd given bloody 45mins before 🙄
You wanted me to give more blood at the bar 😆
I think we should have a whip-round for Cougar - after all he is doing this for US and giving up his own free time to do so.
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Ok. There's a simple solution to this. From now on you get the first round. No loitering around, walking slowly, turning up late, or 'just nipping to the car'. None of that nonsense any more. You must think we were all born yesterday.
Its easy once you try. Simply park your bike in the normal fasion, then issue everyone with instructions to stand aside, you then stroll manfully up to the bar and say "barman! I would like you to furnish my riding companions with a round of your finest ales! I myself will be having a creme de menthe!"
If you demonstrate this, it may go some small way to restoring your frankly tattered reputation 😉
Used to drink with a fella whose tactic was to arrive at the pub before everyone else so he was sitting there with his pint almost finished. When everyone else arrived he was included in the round, he'd then let everyone else get one in until it was time for him to pony up, then he would announce that "I have to go a bit early tonight lads" and leave.
It took us a while to realise what he was doing. When we did, we just sat there after the first round with empty glasses. He got the point and bought a round, but got a half in for himself. Next round he asked for a pint!
He was probably the highest paid amongst us at the time as well.
The simple solution is not to be the tight fisted ones a beer.


