What Lights?

Outbound lighting. Not cheap thanks to shipping/import but they are awesome. Not the highest lumen count around but they seem to be actually using optics to shape the beam to be far more efficient and effective. Seems leagues ahead of what other people are doing, which is basically a round beam like a torch. I think if they had a UK distributor they would be putting some heat on exposure etc. I’ve seen them pop up on a few GMBN videos so perhaps they will begin to get some more UK presence soon.

John

I would agree that Exposure are a fine light having had one a few years ago.

for me Four4th made in the uk offer incredible value for money.

I have a Rameses on the bar and a Scorch on the lid.

four4th +1, a bit like exposure in terms of cost, but the quality is top drawer and similar levels of backup. Most of them aren’t all-in-one units but they do a variety of batteries like the QR mounted ones that sit under the stem, and soft pouch batteries which IME are preferable to 100g+ helmet lights.

Mid-budget I still think MTBBatteries are hard to beat. The Lumenator and 900 aren’t going to make headlines for brightness levels compared to exposure or four4th but they’re bright enough in the real world UNLESS YOUR FRIENDS HAVE EXPOSURE OF FOUR4TH.  As soon as one person in the group has >4000lumens the rest are basically caught in an arms race again. You don’t gain much between 2000 and 4000 lumens, but it’s enough to make the person in front’s field of view a shadow in your lights.

Agree with the four4th suggestions.  Look and feel extremely well made.

I have an OMG on the helmet and a holy moses v2 on the bars.

They are really really good lights

These used to be popular :

https://www.four4th.co.uk/collections/lights/products/scorch-qr

Exposure is usually the answer but instead I got a Hope R8. Currently on a super discount at Winstanleys. The landscape floodlight shape wins over the round shape of Exposure.
The R4 smaller version might even be what you’re after if you can find a deal or stock.

Otherwise. Yes. Exposure. Any of them.

I have used a Knog Power mountain for the last couple of years.  2000 lumen, 8000mha battery, battery doubles as a power bank, battery and lamp connect to make one unit but its bit heavy and the weight of it seems to move the mount  on the bar when it’s rough. Was about £120 I think.

My problem with Exposure is that I have 100% failure rate with the brand. I realise that is actually the only light of theirs I have had but it does put me off trying another. I couldn’t find proof of purchase so didn’t claim under warranty and I didn’t want to pay for a repair as I had lost faith in the light. There are plenty of other good lights around so there are plenty of alternatives to Exposure

Jaw dropping stuff.

As mentioned earlier by someone the lezyne 2400+ looks to be a really good value option. Looks a really good wide beam and cost/output/battery ratio seems very impressive. I had the 1800i before the outbound trail evo and it was a solid light.

Shame Troutie isn’t about anymore, I’m sure he’d be making some great stuff. I still have a Darkness Dominator gathering dust in the cupboard but it’s still puts out a staggering amount of light!

John

Was watching a vid the other night on differences between

Magicshine MJ906SE,(ebike wired in) £140)

Amazon 6000 lumen (£26)

Exposure six pack mk11(£400)

Magicshine monteer 6500(£290)

Vid is about 4 years old, but the magicshine 6500 wins hands down.

Would help if the fella in the video up there angled the lights correctly.

Bit of a tangent, but why haven’t more brands taken the all-in-one route like Exposure?

It’s such a strong selling point and I’ve only seen a couple of other companies doing it.

Integrating a battery and a light set into one enclosure takes a skill set many companies can’t do or choose not to do.

keeping batteries and lights separate allow flexibility in changes in tech.

exposure and four4th do it incredibly well.

I was looking at another set -although i’ve got a perfectly good set from MTB Batteries (it’s a prototype set @ ~3500lm.)  However as TINAS said, if others in the group have exposures, or the magicshine 1million lumen jobs, then you’re basically stuffed and you might as well run in the dark!  would love a set of exposures.