What is so wrong with Human Rights?

all the Act does is allow our domestic courts to apply the convention here

This. What seems to have been lost in the Tory tubthumping is that the HRA was introduced (partly) to give us more control over our legal affairs – the very reason they are now asserting as justification for leaving it.

O and the ‘Bolivian cat’ case? More DM/tory spin <sigh>. The student in question (who’d overstayed his visa) sought to remain based on the government’s own policy giving credit to long-term couples (he and his partner had been together for four years). On appeal the government conceded that its own policy was applicable–the cat didn’t swing it.

@munro, I appreciate what you are saying. This means test was brought in as a result of a significant number of cases where people did not have the ability to support their partner. These are often arranged marriages including those in order to “get a passport” which I think form a very significant part of the 100’s of cases you are referring to. The country quite rightly does not want to see people coming in who then become a burden on the state.

You really do regurgitate a load of unsubstantiated, often borderline bigoted tabloid nonsense.

On appeal the government conceded that its own policy was applicable–the cat didn’t swing it.

Indeed, student accommodation is often limited in size.

It’s interesting that nations agreed the principals of human rights 70 years ago but the act only came into force in 1998. We seemed to do just fine from a Human Rights perspective up to then

Like chemically castrating homosexuals, for instance. Or detaining single mothers.

Here’s a tip, when you think of something just pause for second and ask yourself, ‘is this bollox?’.

Edit: bit harsh, apols, you seem like a decent bloke but you’re clearly not for turning so I’ll leave it there.

More here

ROFL listening to people pretending to be moderate and reasonable arguing for extreme knee jerk B&W solutions (LOL subjective terms I know) it’s so British! Heres some British views I’ve heard trotted out by our lovely fellow citizens with a straight face, on more than one occasion!

1) Bring back national service young people are lazy shites that need discipline

2) Make lazy bar stewards do unpaid work and community service in return for dole money

3) Abolish all state benefits (except the pension of course), round up the poor and arm the police to shoot them on a regular basis to keep the numbers down

4) Bring back hanging

5) Bring back corporal punishment and public flogging

6) Use Navy ships to sink migrant boats

7) Deport all “certain race” and drop nuclear bombs on “certain” states

IME in my social and work life British people are two faced lying ****ts who support by proxy bullying and interfering in other peoples lives, as long as they don’t have to get their hands dirty on the front line 🙂

IME in my social and work life British people are two faced lying ****ts who support by proxy bullying and interfering in other peoples lives

Have you managed to leave the UK ?

@ernie – Not yet you going to make me?

Am I going to make you ?

I’m surprised anyone would need to. Why would anyone want to live in a country full of “two faced lying ****ts”?

Or are you going to tell me that you love living in the UK despite the fact that “British people are two faced lying ****ts”?

It’s a good question.

Maybe you can give me counsel on the 2 options you provided.

I hadn’t realised that I had given you 2 options.

What do you think those 2 options are……leave the UK or stay here and avoid too much contact with British people ?

JHJ: that is awesome! 😆

IME in my social and work life British people are two faced lying ****ts

Sounds like you need a better job and nicer friends!

What would you suggest? or is this it?

@Graham S – Definitely not friends, I don’t keep company like that long term, unfortunately have had to endure it from time to time though.

You really do regurgitate a load of unsubstantiated, often borderline bigoted tabloid nonsense.

@grum the reasons I quoted are a big part of why the means test law/procedure was introduced.

Here’s a cheery thought on a bright and sunny morning:

“…something like 1984 could very well happen; this is the direction the world is going in at the present time. In our world, there will be no emotions except fear, rage, triumph, and self-abasement… but always there will be the intoxication of power…if you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stomping on a human face… forever.”

Clever bloke that Orwell:

I don’t understand why the UK govt feels restricted by the Human Rights laws.

The govt didn’t seem to find them unduly restrictive when dealing with Northern Ireland when there was a far more serious “terrorist’ threat.

Maybe they’re getting ready for dealing with the Scots…

I don’t remember Labour campaigning against this issue in the election.

Have a look at this article[/url] and the reference to article 4 of the HRA.