VW id buzz how many bikes inside?

Shame about the seat folding design a real flaw in what is essentially a van but doesn’t retain van like load area when seats down. Not thata buzz on my radar or price range. Like look of them though. My VX combo (berlingo variant) better for flat load area even if nil style points.

It’s not a van though, it’s an MPV. Be interesting to see if the LWB variants meet the #vanlife need, but suspect that crowd will need to wait another few years in reality.

I like camping luckily, and would prefer something smaller and more carlike.

I would have looked at the Berlingo variants but the electric ones are more expensive on my company scheme, and have lower range than the Buzz. And, as it turns out the Buzz has plenty of room for bikes, kayaks, boards, tents and all of the other stuff we cart about 😊

The seating doesn’t seem as flexible as in the t7 multivan,  I wonder why?

In what way?

Mainly white interior and bikes…. yikes.

Wasn’t even my car so double yikes! Can spec it in black though.

It’s not a van though, it’s an MPV.

True, but most modern mpvs also have disappear into the floor rear seats. My £4k zafira does, including a row more than the buzz. The mechanisms have existed for years, not fitting one on a really expensive vehicle seems tight

Didn’t even try with both wheels on, shall give it a go in the morning 🙂

Nice one fella!

The seating’s a bizarre design choice.  As if the design team had no access to the rest of the VW range.  Even the simple mechanism off the yeti/roomster/karoq would have done.

I guess the battery being in the chassis would mean the floor would need to be higher?

The lwb 7 seater is due imminently, be interesting to see how they do it, but afaik the seats will be removable rather than hide away.

@5lab on my 3rd Zafira atm but they stopped making them 10 years ago and I do fancy something different now!

We hired an electric Belingo last week, whilst away. Rather impressed by its bike swallowing ability (ok 2x medium sized road bikes not full sus). But did help the seats laid flat. Inside of that Buzz looks nice though.

😍🤩 This place needs more pictures of bikes in cars

Does the E-Berlingo have 20″ Rims or smaller?    As far as I can see the Buzz only comes with these silly big wheels unless I’m missing something. My current EV (Leaf) eats tyres like no other vehicle I’ve owned, even a 300hp Saab Turbo! but luckily 17″ tyres are cheap to buy. 20+ on the other hand are not. It seems all EVs are coming with gigantic hoops these days? Mate bought an ex demo Ioniq 5 a few weeks ago and it had 21″ wheels on what is basically a city car, total insanity.

Edit – Berlingo comes with 17″ wheels, much better idea for a utility vehicle. I might seriously check those out

Edit Edit – ahhh 52kwh battery. I’m oot.

Mate bought an ex demo Ioniq 5 a few weeks ago and it had 21″ wheels on what is basically a city car, total insanity.

Ioniq 5 is not a city car. They are absolutely mahoosive.
Longer wheelbase than a Range Rover.

The seating doesn’t seem as flexible as in the t7 multivan,  I wonder why?

took a multivan out last year for a demo, it was parked next to buzz’s either side and we noted that they have had very different design briefs, esp on the interior. The multivan just “looked” bigger too and the van’s interior space felt vast.

i don’t know why at this high price point neither of VW’s bus models come with seats that fold flat into the floor. You have to manhandle them in & out to really adjust the interior config. And the front swivel seat isn’t light, as I did remove it, it’s all ok but I wouldn’t want to be doing it all the time.

Must take a buzz out this year for a demo.

if you look at the old sharan with seats flat – the 5 seater model had a big step up in the boot floor (or a false floor) which was level in the 7 seater (as the rear row of seats took up the space when folded flat). Either way they’re not as clever as seats in GM products – I suspect they may have a license issue.

I suspect this will be the outcome for the 7 seater/lwb jobbie, but its still a bit disappointing. It would be nice to imagine that with a flexible battery layout you could stagger things to the boot floor was naturally higher, but the floor under the rear seats was lower allowing them to fold completely flat

found a vid of the 7 seater. ~6.30 in for the details

“manhandle”

pah.  If only..

That video makes it smell like the 7 seater’s rear seats come out, but not necessarily the middle row. It’s looking more tempting though.

That video makes it smell like the 7 seater’s rear seats come out,

am I missing out on some features by not having youtube premium?

found a vid of the 7 seater. ~6.30 in for the details

is the LWB buzz coming to the uk ? Or the gtx version

is the LWB buzz coming to the uk ? Or the gtx version

both are afaik, the US isn’t getting the SWB version so I guess there might be a delay in us getting the LWB till demand there quietens down

It’s not a van though, it’s an MPV.

Neither was the Sharan/Galaxy thing I had around 2010…. Seats out and completely flat load area.

I find two things baffling about the spec choices …

1) lack of removable rear seats (this would stop me buying if I was in the market for a new car of this form).

2) only the long wheelbase version can be specced with 7 seats (2/3/2) despite the short wheelbase version having the room for it.

So, a fail for people who want to lug things and sit up front… and also a fail for people who want to carry as many family members about as possible without going big… as an MPV, those are poor choices on VWs part. My old Touran manages all that.

We hired one abroad and struggled to get two bikes in them fibreglass traveling boxes and one in a cut down cardboard box into the back whilst still allowing one person to sit in the back. It was fine with just the three bikes upside down and front wheel off.

fail for people who want to lug things and sit up front

Fail is harsh. As per my OP I’m not sure if there is anything new/newish on the market in petrol or (>200 mile range) electric car with comparable capacity. ICYMI it’s massive inside 

So 10 minutes for a full charge

what? ‘Full charge’? That’s dinosaur fuel thinking.

Fail is harsh

Okay… missed opportunities then. 7 seats, and removable seats, make MPVs far more versatile… why not give people that?

Photo genuinely helpful for seeing what’s what though. Thanks.

Mainly white interior and bikes…. yikes.

GTX version getting dark interiors, including the roof linings… but again, why only on the most expensive builds? Why not offer the practical option on the more affordable versions? Like not offering 7 seats on short wheel base… the spec choices reduce the practicality of what could have been VWs most practical car.

missed opportunities then.

feels like that to me. Caddy Maxi Life owner here and I thought the id buzz would be the ultimate “sport utility” e-vehicle. But it fails pretty badly. Seats should have been removable to create a flat floor. Or at least rollable forward. Practical sides with luxury seating (not just dark in what looks like base spec).  Whil3 none of the other small electric vans yet have a decent range (I get why – the “small van” segment isn’t driving long trips)

the cargo version has a flat floor, but as yet no “combi” cargo with seats.

these continue to look like practical bike vehicles, but no electric options yet

https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/ford/tourneo-connect

And they’ve made this look brilliant – echos of  a matra rancho

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/ford/tourneo-courier

It’s like it is because there is more money in selling a fancy fashion van. With more practical design and plain paint and fabrics it wouldn’t get the lifestyle crowd who’ll pay a premium for the look, which has high margin.

edit: I’d be intrigued to see how the bike fits upright. What size is it?

Did look at Tourneos as per my OP but the (man) maths doesn’t work. Electric salary sacrifice lease deals seem incredibly good value atm. Oddly those Tourneos don’t seem to have seats that fold into the floor either. I wonder if there’s a modern safety standard that prevents 3 rows of seats passing NCAP unless they are longer?

TBH for my needs Berlingos, Tourneos and Maxi Caddy are more van than I need for a couple of bikes, an air tent and stuff. The slight bit of additional refinement an mpv has works well for me too but as with this whole topic ymmv.

btw, in case it helps anyone else only the base spec ID Buzz can have a dark interior, and has smaller 19” wheels as standard atm 🤷

edit: I’d be intrigued to see how the bike fits upright. What size is it?

it’s a medium 29er, but there was bags of room. It was a demo car (again, not a van!), had to give it back the other day sadly. I think it would fit upright but my default is to put them in upside down!

only the base spec ID Buzz can have a dark interior,

if they’ve used the same materials as in the Caravelle then I wouldn’t worry.  The fallout from a nuclear holocaust might tarnish a Velle interior and carpet, but pretty much nothing else will.  Even having an engine fall off a pallet and dump its oil all over the carpet failed to mark ours.

Seats should have been removable to create a flat floor.

if you have the multi board fitted, you get a flat floor when the seats are folded. Albeit 200ish mm higher than the “actual” floor

btw, in case it helps anyone else only the base spec ID Buzz can have a dark interior, and has smaller 19” wheels as standard atm

Still has a light roof liner. Dark roof liner is reserved for the GTX only so far. Mountain bikers like dark roof liners, we’re clumsy idiots after a big day.

Any way… like many I’m a hopefully second hand buyer long down the line… we’ll get what others specced… so spec the cheaper wheels/tyres and dark seats please people.

🙏🏼

The SWB GTX looks to have the option of 6 seats, so my theory on NCAP is wrong and the rear two are removable.

Dark interior, massive window in the roof so more height for bikes, and glass is tougher than roof liner. 4 wheel drive & bigger battery too. Nice.

LWB version has all rear seats removable according to this https://www.thecarexpert.co.uk/seven-seat-volkswagen-id-buzz-lwb-unveiled/

(though bizarrely it’s described as a seven seater but the image shows only six seats. )

The SWB GTX looks to have the option of 6 seats, so my theory on NCAP is wrong and the rear two are removable.

Dark interior, massive window in the roof so more height for bikes, and glass is tougher than roof liner. 4 wheel drive & bigger battery too. Nice.

@thebunk I shudder to think how much this fully loaded model buzz will cost. VW will definitely push the price envelope with this, after all they do have to pay for their dieselgate fees and fines somehow.

I do still want one though, but doubt it’ll be in budget.

“You lot will be buying them in about 3 years…”

At £60k, I can assure you I most definitely will not be.

If I’m spending that sort of ££ I’ll get a Land Crusier. AND a dog.