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hi all, Mrs. G is having a girls night in BBQ wednesday ( I'm off to see ZZTOP ) and one of the guests is a vegetarian.

Can any of you recommend something other than the old boring veggie burger for her for the BBQ?

thanks,


 
Posted : 08/06/2009 7:16 am
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Anything made by Quorn gets my vote. The 'boring' veggie burger tastes so good I have had meat eating friends of mine chose to eat one over the meat alternative. How about Indian food? Samosa, pekora etc? If you want to get creative then stuffed peppers always go down well.


 
Posted : 08/06/2009 7:21 am
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I was looking at a feta -pine nut-stuffed pepper recipe this morning actually.


 
Posted : 08/06/2009 7:23 am
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the quorn quarterpounders served with melted gorganzola and onion chutney always go down a storm.


 
Posted : 08/06/2009 7:41 am
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Massive mushrooms as burgers are good, as are thick slices of aubergine. Lots of dips and curry type accompaniments


 
Posted : 08/06/2009 7:47 am
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Racing Ralph said what I was going to say.

Everyone will want to eat the mushrooms, so get plenty!


 
Posted : 08/06/2009 7:49 am
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maybe some gridled cardboard?

BBQ's and veggies...erm.. Mushrooms are the only thing I can think of.

Do they still eat chicken though? 😆


 
Posted : 08/06/2009 7:56 am
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Eh? What?

Are they touring again? How did I miss that!

*Scuttles off to Ticketmaster....*


 
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if the veggie isn't opposed to meatlike vegetarian products, then there's a brand called frys that makes by far THE best burgers and sausages for BBQ use...
whenever i have a BBQ, i always make up some veggie skewer things too- small mushrooms, chunks of red pepper, courgette, red onion, tofu and possibly sweet potato marinated in a BBQ sauce first then threaded onto soaked wooden skewers... turn them occasionally and reapply some BBQ sauce from time to time.
or if you REALLY want to impress them, make some seitan. but that gets messy and time-consuming, although it's usually worth it.


 
Posted : 08/06/2009 8:14 am
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Posted : 08/06/2009 8:16 am
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Get some haloumi cheese, it doesn't melt but crisps-up and has a great feta-like flavour, try this:

http://uktv.co.uk/food/recipe/aid/572517

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Posted : 08/06/2009 8:27 am
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Pop some asparagus in a pan of boliing water for 3 minutes to blanch it then put it on the barbie just so it colours up. I usually griddle it. Sort of like a savoury toffee.


 
Posted : 08/06/2009 8:47 am
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captn... doesnt look like they are spending long in the UK... one date is all I see...
06.07.09 Mainz DE Zitadelle (0)
06.09.09 Munich DE Zenith (0)
06.10.09 Port de Crans CH Caribana Festival (2)
06.12.09 Brussels BE Forest National (1)
06.14.09 Leicestershire GB Download Festival (5)


 
Posted : 08/06/2009 8:49 am
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thanks all for the comments.. I was also thinking.. just thinking of grilled mushrooms.. but wouldnt ya know it... we can't get nice big field mushrooms here.


 
Posted : 08/06/2009 8:50 am
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Get some bamboo skewers and add in liberal quantities a selection of:
mushrooms
pitted olives
garlic
tomato
paneer
peppers
onions
...and anything elses which you can trhead onto a stick.
If you also get some tortilla wraps then you can [s]burn[/s] cook the things on sticks then fill up the tortilla and eat away. Worked well on Friday night in a muddy field on the outskirts of Bristol.


 
Posted : 08/06/2009 9:13 am
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Fish and prawn is always a winner 😀


 
Posted : 08/06/2009 9:13 am
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Puts me in mind of a Frankie Boyle gag:

"Is there a vegetarian option?"
"Yeah, you can F*** off"

:mrgreen:


 
Posted : 08/06/2009 9:17 am
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Veg / Haloumi kebabs


 
Posted : 08/06/2009 9:24 am
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Vegetarian option?

A nice sirloin steak.

Cows are vegetarian.


 
Posted : 08/06/2009 9:24 am
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Yeah, +1 for paneer and halloumi...halloumi can break if you thread it on to skewers in too small pieces though. Paneer threads more easily but halloumi is much nicer on a barby. If you have a griddle pan without gaps, then use that for the halloumi. It goes very well with barbecued asparagus and with big portobello mushrooms. Warning with halloumi, make sure it's the last thing that she cooks, once it goes even lukewarm, it gets very rubbery.


 
Posted : 08/06/2009 9:25 am
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haloumi

peppers stuffed with rice,garlic and haloumi
haloumi kebabs

etc....

oh and a swimming pool full of beer


 
Posted : 08/06/2009 9:26 am
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Jedi, the key here is

"girls night in"

Hence your post should have finished with

oh and a swimming pool full of baby oil, yeah baby! YEAH!

Coat on, taxi!


 
Posted : 08/06/2009 9:28 am
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we don't have a swimming pool... they are in process of building one next door but you'd need like a truck load of baby oil.

hmm....

*phoning delivery companies*

looks like rain for wednesday night anyway...ages since I've done the old concert in the mud thingy.


 
Posted : 08/06/2009 9:34 am
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Thin slices of courgette, nicely covere in olive oil with a good mix of salt and pepper, on the bbq for a couple of minutes (or more depending on how thin you can cut them 😉 ) tomatoes work well on the bbq too, cherry tomatoes should balance nicely on the grill bit. Those two with a nice thick bit of foccacia mmm 🙂


 
Posted : 08/06/2009 9:34 am
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juan - captnflash.. you're not really clear on the concept of being a veggie are you? *L*


 
Posted : 08/06/2009 9:38 am
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I take the French view of vegetarianism.


 
Posted : 08/06/2009 9:55 am
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Veggie for 30 years +.

Quorn is revolting, I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole. If your veggie guest is a long-termer they will probably think likewise and not thank you for it. Also the great majority of commercial veggie burgers on the market are almost equally as revolting. Generally fatty, tasteless, bland, squishy, yukky. Certainly anything from mainstream supermarket chains generally falls into this. I have no idea why they make them.

For anything pre-made, Cauldron foods are amongst the slightly better ones (if you can find them). Otherwise I'd recommend "Clear Spot" Sea cakes. eg: [URL] http://sumawholesale.com/index.php/chilled/tofu-chilled/clear-spot-tofu-sea-cakes-organic-6-x-190g-cv214.html [/URL].

Haloumi is pretty nasty rubber, but some like it. Very over rated IMO

Biggest disappointment for veggies is not getting any protein though at these doos. Not difficult but you need to change your approach. May be too much to ask for a non-vegie to pull this one off really well.

Better still to do your own. Marinate veggies (and don't forget the aubergine) in good qualilty cold pressed olive oil, tamari and a sweetener (eg some wizzed mango or peaches).

Boil some kidney beans (never from tins, please), use to make up your own burgers (need egg if they will eat it to help to set). Use fresh herbs, tamari, chilli, fruit, onion, etc. Add lots of ground nuts, seeds and any sort of flaked grains (eg Millet, oats, quinoa..). Need careful handling as can be delicate without added rubber which supermarkets would put into them.

Make fresh yeasted bread dough (Wholemeal/spelt etc). Make up small flatbreads, coat them in good olive oil and cook thm on BBQ. Can't beat it and even the meaties will want to scoff them.


 
Posted : 08/06/2009 10:20 am
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mountaincarrot- good call on the clear spot tofu seacakes. they are amazing.
however i disagree re cauldron foods; both redwood foods and frys make far far superior burgers and sausages to them, with a lower fat and higher taste content.
also, clear spot's tofu itself is loads better than cauldron's.
when it comes to making your own, there's a recipe in a cookbook called the veganomicon for chickpea cutlets that are fantastic on a bbq too, but they involve using vital wheat gluten (aka gluten flour/powder), which can be difficult to track down in the UK...


 
Posted : 08/06/2009 11:00 am
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Quorn is revolting, I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole. If your veggie guest is a long-termer they will probably think likewise and not thank you for

Coming from a family of vegies and being one myself for over 20years this is just rubbish, loads of veggies love quorn products.
For me I would do Haloumi and mushrooms


 
Posted : 08/06/2009 11:08 am
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fresh fruit + wine wrapped in tin foil to roast and soak good for all to consume and gets you pi55ed as well
PS you are cooking an a seperate BBQ aren't you as some/most/all wont eat it off a meat one.


 
Posted : 08/06/2009 11:10 am
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Fussy eaters shouldn't accept invitations to dinner and then dictate the menu.

How intolerant am I on this topic!?

But seriously, what is the point in vegetarianism?

What is it that is so wrong about eating meat?

There are much more important things to worry about IMHO.


 
Posted : 08/06/2009 11:23 am
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here we go...


 
Posted : 08/06/2009 11:26 am
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Nice to see the usual STW 'tolerance' bubbling to the surface again
🙁

If someone said "I can't chew steak with my false teeth" would you do them a burger? Of course you would.


 
Posted : 08/06/2009 11:27 am
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Well, how can people who work in cubicles and have a fascination with "flat food" (ie that which can be slid under a door without damaging it) understand other possibilities regarding choice and beliefs?
After all no one who programs is odd at all are they?
or who may actually be about 14 but because this is the internet they can just be randomly rude and ignorant about other people who they'll never meet. Thank God.
Although to be fair, quorn mings. Its just chicken texture GM protein wrapped uo to make people who can't face the possibility that fuffy bunnikins might go from cage to plate but love the texture of meat and have not enough imagination to find all the really good cooking that's out there.


 
Posted : 08/06/2009 11:32 am
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Courgette, cut in half, glazed with honey and sprinkled with some spice (BBQ mix works well, or thai spices). BBQ until blackened.


 
Posted : 08/06/2009 11:34 am
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I quite like veggie food actually. 😀


 
Posted : 08/06/2009 11:36 am
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quorn, as i've stated before, is athlete's foot with great PR.

(i've never eaten it myself, as it contains egg)


 
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quorn, as i've stated before, is athlete's foot with great PR.

Genius! nearly spat out my rather lovely cumberland sausage sarnie over that!


 
Posted : 08/06/2009 11:38 am
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cheers cap'n.


 
Posted : 08/06/2009 11:39 am
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spongebob... who said a thing about fussy eaters trying to dictate...
she ( the guest ) has said nothing.. we knew she was veggie when we, or rather my wife, invited her.

all we are trying to do is offer her an appetizing meal, as I would offer any guest.


 
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are you planning on have a separate veggie grill? i use one of those disposables for the real veggie people as i'm pretty sure they don't real want beef grease on their veg' kebabs


 
Posted : 08/06/2009 12:53 pm
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I hadn't thought about the separate grill issue...
ok you guys that are veggies ( and is "veggie" a derogative term? )
would you want a separate grill?

what about a really good grill cleaning and separate zones?

( hey... I'm not even gonna be there.. weather permitting )


 
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yep proper veggies don't want hot beef dribbling down their lips. So there are 2 methods
- one is cook the veggie food first; trouble is if the veggie food is any good then the omnivories eat all the veggie food.
- have a separate veggie grill


 
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The only thing I find Quorn any good for is making a lasagne or chilli...the "mince" (I know, I know....) is just a good way of bulking it out.

Sometimes I uses it, sometimes I don'ts...I know what it's there for but no need to go eejitising people who use it occasionally.

I recently gave some of the chilli to a raving carnivore of a friend...I still haven't told him 😆


 
Posted : 08/06/2009 1:54 pm
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d'ooh forget about english veggies 😉
Forget about the prawn and fish then.
As fro the grill , if it's big enough cant you use half of it for meat and the other half for non meet?


 
Posted : 08/06/2009 2:03 pm
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juan -- she's actually an American veggie.. I think thats worse.

and yes... thats me an American speaking.


 
Posted : 08/06/2009 2:12 pm
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she's actually an American veggie...

photos please. and mobile number. ha!


 
Posted : 08/06/2009 2:21 pm
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ROFL at xx
What is an american veggie???


 
Posted : 08/06/2009 2:30 pm
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an american, who is vegetarian.
generally speaking, i like both.
and if it's a lady, then all the better...


 
Posted : 08/06/2009 2:57 pm
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LOL at XX again, I though it was like a brit/continental veggie. Differences in the veggetarianism, however, if you consider only dating veggie girls, you should not give not very tolerant meat heater the stick, as you are as intolerant as they are.


 
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that's not entirely true juan.
firstly, where have i given intolerant meat eaters any stick? all i said here was "here we go" when the inevitable usual antagonistic type post appeared.
secondly, i'm not criticizing girls/women for not being veggie simply by not wanting to date them, and many would even probably see it as being a positive thing that i'm not interested! i suppose that you could say that i'm intolerant, but it's hardly the same as trying to start arguments or prove someone 'wrong' or whatever, is it?
but hey, let's not go there. that's not what this thread is about so with that in mind, i'm not going to discuss this any further.

PS one of my best mates is french; he moved to england from bordeaux last year because he is vegan and couldn't stand to live in france any longer with it being so difficult to get good vegan food at restaurants etc (he's a rubbish cook so he can't make meals himself from fresh veggies and stuff!)


 
Posted : 08/06/2009 4:57 pm
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but hey, let's not go there. that's not what this thread is about so with that in mind, i'm not going to discuss this any further.


Works for me..


 
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A veggie(or certainly I would) will expect a seperate grill thats why I mentioned it (I am a vegan like XherbivoreX) and yes lets not go there again.You cant really share I am afraid IMHO.Disposable works well
PS your guest will be used to it and will just appreciate the effort you have gone to be a good host.


 
Posted : 08/06/2009 5:52 pm
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xherb... shes a looker too.. blonde californian..and ohhhh sooooo cute.

( and me a married man !! )


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 6:54 am
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shes a looker too.. blonde californian..and ohhhh sooooo cute.

ha, i wouldn't stand a chance in that case!


 
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well... truth be told.... neither would I.

and if mrs. G ever heard me say this I wouldn't stand much of a chance their either. *L*


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 10:13 am
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but again.. thanks for the BBQ tips... just hope the weather holds.


 
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I've just e-mailed your missus about the californian hot veggie grynch. She says she's planning on cooking one very special sausage on the barbecue now - sais she'd let you know when it needed to go on.


 
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ohhhffff...
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hey... I'll be away at the concert with a bunch of long haired american types by the time HER party starts.. I won't even get to see ANY of the guests.


 
Posted : 10/06/2009 6:56 am
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btw as there is a few vegan on here do you eat shoes or something? There is a vegan shoes thread on the bike forum and I kinda don't get it...


 
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no we don't eat shoes juan, but being vegan isn't restricted to dietary choices; it's about avoiding the use of animal-derived products to the best of your ability in all areas of life so we tend to not wear leather, wool, silk, suede etc.
sure, there are flaws in the ideology but the key is "to the best of your ability"... that is, if there's a non-animal based alternative that's available and suitable then we'll take that option (or avoid entirely if that's possible).


 
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I made a vegan cry once... not proud but she walked by as me and mate were talking about going out for a steak.

poor thing was a bit high strung... burst into tears and fled from the room.


 
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xherb... no wool?.. no silk ?( suede and leather I knew ) .. but harvesting silk and wool don't kill the animal... so what is the issue?

exploitation?


 
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girl I worked with that was vegan.. she said shoes were the worst.. we lived in NewENgland and you needed heavy proper shoes winter time there.

often she just wore hemp shoes that really didn't stand up.


 
Posted : 10/06/2009 8:24 am
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Wow that is a bit extrem... So you'd rather use env unfriendly substitutes 🙁


 
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Juan, many would say that the intensive farming of animals to provide wool, leather, meat, fur, milk etc. is environmentally unfriendly in itself and also exploits the animals...but that's another thread entirely.


 
Posted : 10/06/2009 8:40 am
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Fair enough DD, I'll stop as it's not the thread point.


 
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xherb... no wool?.. no silk ?( suede and leather I knew ) .. but harvesting silk and wool don't kill the animal... so what is the issue?

exploitation?

basically, yes. cows aren't being killed for us to have milk either, but vegans avoid it and all its derivatives.
silk is somewhat contentious though (as is honey), but personally i avoid.
wool... well, i'm slightly conflicted over the MAPP endorsed merino as it would appear to be a better option than (as juan pointed out) the environmentally less friendly synthetic/oil based alternatives. but it's still coming from a sheep... i dunno, it gets so complex. which is why i usually keep this stuff to myself...


 
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[i]cows aren't being killed for us to have milk either[/i]

I beg to differ but how do you make a cow produce milk? They don't do it automatically you know. You make the cow calf and when the calf is born it is either made part of the dairy herd or it is sold into the meat industry.


 
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oh good grief.
pedant.

yes, you're right, but my point was that the actual act of obtaining milk does not result in the death of the cow.

but i'm well aware of the horrendous workings of the commercial dairy industry and the way the cows/calves are (can be, anyway) mistreated, hence why i haven't bought/eaten any dairy products at all for close to 20 years...

and before anyone else has a go, if you're a dairy farmer or you just are quite happy to consume dairy products, then good for you. i'm not trying to change your mind or anything. these are MY choices and that's all.
thanks.


 
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Aubergines sliced lengthways roughly quarter inch thick, oiled and grilled just enough to go bendy - use to wrap around large cubes of mozzarella plus shreds of basil and slices raw garlic. Hold together with cocktail sticks and pop on the bbq until cheese starts to escape. Make plenty extra, because everyone will scoff them.


 
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ok.. and I don't want to start any issues here... but thanks for sharing your views xherb... I really appreciate it.


 
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ohh.. sad note?..
I asked mrs.G what she was planning as a starter tonight..

foie gras for the "normal" fold ( sorry xherb ).. with a griddled chevre salad for the veggie...

but foie gras? I actually had to laugh.


 
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and thanks glenP


 
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