Trump strikes Syria

Someone should do a chemical attack on Hopkins. I reckon we could get UN backing for that.

I haven’t retweeted it, but I posted the image here to see what folks thoughts were.

Apologies, i had assumed it was a screenshot ?from your Twitter, the green arrow means a retweet.

Will several Tomahawks improve the public opinion for President Trump? 😛

(side note: Does that mean the entire USA (including political opponents) will now acknowledge President Trump as their best President to rule USA for full term easy or perhaps even two terms? )

yes now he has bombed syria no american objects to him as POTUS and they all want him to serve for ever and ever as he is the best.

You bring nothing to the table but idiocy STILL

You really don’t get it do you? 😆

Have you not seen the correlation between all the recent Presidents riding high with good public opinion if they sent several Tomahawks around for “goodwill” gesture. 😆

Guess President Trump will be here full two terms then. 😛

You bring nothing to the table but idiocy STILL

This is the same president you were very excited about because he would stay out of foreign conflicts chewkw?

It’s difficult to ignore the fact that it was in all probability a false flag operation, organised by rebels or Mossad and designed to trick a less than competent narcissist into aiding the rebel effort and keep the pot boiling just as there were signs it was beginning to cool. Interesting reports of a renewed Isis ‘push’ now emanating from Russian media sources. Is there ever going to be an end to their suffering?

Junkyard – lazarus
You bring nothing to the table but idiocy STILL

O c’mon … 😛

GrahamS – Member
This is the same president you were very excited about because he would stay out of foreign conflicts chewkw?

Yes, in order to win public opinion.

Yes, in order to win public opinion.

So now you’re saying his public opinion will be up because he has taken military action? Which is it?

graemecsl – Member
It’s difficult to ignore the fact that it was in all probability a false flag operation, organised by rebels or Mossad and designed to trick a less than competent narcissist into aiding the rebel effort and keep the pot boiling just as there were signs it was beginning to cool. Interesting reports of a renewed Isis ‘push’ now emanating from Russian media sources. Is there ever going to be an end to their suffering?

Yes, but please don’t say that here because you are trying to establish logic.

If you look at the BBC clips … three plume of smoke with the third one smaller … the question is if first two bombs are the same pay load why is the third one smaller? According to the news the 3rd one is the one carrying the chemical. Bear in mind UN whatever has already taken away all their chemical weapons …

Now, the “invisible hands” are trying to escalate the problem by dividing US and Russia (restoring relationship) and to get them fight each other.

Therefore, for all those who wish to see escalation your wish might come through if these three superpowers are going into full scale war. Bear in mind China is also in the background so try to mess with them if you wish …

If the shite hit the fan big time you will not only see middle east turmoil but the entire world goes up in flame. Naturally, this means population reduction hence the Darwin rules set in … Congratulation if that is the case.

Remember I told you so.

slowoldman – Member

Yes, in order to win public opinion.

So now you’re saying his public opinion will be up because he has taken military action? Which is it? [/quote]

Tomahawk – improves public opinions. Yes.

Military action or foot on group Not good because of own casualty.

Rule of thumb – Tomahawk for good Presidency opinions.

See Clinton and Obama – Public opinion (former more so while latter used some) high due to Tomahawk.

See Bush x 2 – Public opinion turn on them later on due to foot on ground.

So you’re saying now that staying out of foreign conflicts wasn’t a way of winning public opinion? I’m confused now.

slowoldman – Member
So you’re saying now that staying out of foreign conflicts wasn’t a way of winning public opinion? I’m confused now.

Let me explain.

My view has not changed. i.e. staying out of foreign conflicts for greater good as not all interventions will generate greater good.

Public opinion on the other hand is different. You have to bear in mind President Trump still need to “satisfy” his political opponents so by sending a few Tomahawks around as goodwill gesture he wins … Home and abroad.

President Trump political opponents are now in trouble (at home) as they cannot, anymore, disagree with President Trump’s action. 😆

Next move please (political opponents of President Trump) … 😆

Oh nearly forgot to answer your question … Yes, staying out is still a winning formula. Tomahawk is merely a communication gesture between two superpowers. Both are winning at home and abroad.

It’s difficult to ignore the fact that it was in all probability a false flag operation, organised by rebels or Mossad and designed to trick a less than competent narcissist into aiding the rebel effort and keep the pot boiling just as there were signs it was beginning to cool.

But surely thats the essentially the Russian line – whoever it was, it wasn’t Assad, as they are pro-Assad.

So why on earth is Trump doing the opposite of what the Russians want? I thought he was supposed to be cosying up to them, what with him being a Russian agent and all that?

For ninfan

http://www.theonion.com/article/trump-confident-us-military-strike-syria-wiped-out-55722

As for chewk, no more foreign wars, no more Goldman Sachs employees in positions of power……

Trump is shattering your dreams !

kimbers – Member
http://www.theonion.com/article/trump-confident-us-military-strike-syria-wiped-out-55722

Crikey you are very good at finding some weird articles don’t you. 😆

kimbers – Member
As for chewk, no more foreign wars, no more Goldman Sachs employees in positions of power……

Trump is shattering your dreams !

See even President Trump has now won you over. 😆

Its alright Chewy – Kimbers is just griping to cover his own embarrassment because we all went to bed last night with him whinging about Trump not doing anything about CW use in Syria, and then woke up to him whinging about Trump doing something about CW use in Syria (you know, Obamas ‘red line’ issue!)

the whole thing would be amusing if it didn’t have such a tragic background

I’m touched that that my opinion is the first and last thing you check on of a day ninfan

I’ll update you on my final thought just b4 bedtime

Ed Milliband and your leftie heroes scuppered the move to take out Assad 3 years ago – and as a result thousands more have died in Syria.

Proud of yourselves?

Was it just like when the democrats scuppered Trumps Healthcare bill?

Well done ninfan, it must give you immense pleasure to think that thousands of deaths give you some extra points on an internet forum

You are absolutely correct tho a concerted bombing campaign and invasion of Syria to oust Assad would absolutely not have killed thousands of civilians and the world would definitely be a better place now.

Is all this bitterness because Diane Abbot was right in 2013 and if more people had listened to her then maybe millions of lives could’ve been saved?

Makes you think eh 🙄

Fox News reporting the Admiral Grigorovich is on it’s way to confront the American ships that launched the attacks.

It’s all a bit uneasy.

This is every politicians nightmare. You’re crucified if you endorse action, crucified if you don’t.
Even minding your own business results in criticism. Trump’s a **** of biblical order, but he has a real shit sandwich here, as does May and every other western leader. Russia are as complicit as Assad. The difference being they couldn’t give a flying **** for opinion, mainly because they control their press even tighter than the west does, mainly because they own it.

ninfan – Member
It’s difficult to ignore the fact that it was in all probability a false flag operation, organised by rebels or Mossad and designed to trick a less than competent narcissist into aiding the rebel effort and keep the pot boiling just as there were signs it was beginning to cool.
But surely thats the essentially the Russian line – whoever it was, it wasn’t Assad, as they are pro-Assad.

So why on earth is Trump doing the opposite of what the Russians want? I thought he was supposed to be cosying up to them, what with him being a Russian agent and all that?

Why? Because it’s the opening gambit on the next deal, nothing about this has anything to do with what actually might have happened, it’s about what appears to have happened for the sake of strengthening Trumps hand, sooner or later he has got to sit the other side of a deal making table with Putin and of course he’s already in the room with the Chinese, who have also been playing out of school in the South China Sea and this serves the purpose of reminding them both of his hand, he remains at the control of the most powerful armed forces on earth and he’s now demonstrated with great theatrics he’s prepared to use it, so call his bluff if you dare.
Obama was too smart for his own good, it is a stupid stupid world full of ignorant fools bent on power, money, arms sales, profit and of course hubris, sadly all they understand is force, I despair.

Inaction 3 years ago has seen 100,000 – 150,000 more deaths in the Civil War and contributed to the situation where Assad has “won”

Without intervention in Iraq its likely 500,000 Yazidis would have been slaughtered. Their race exterminated.

So Trump was suposed to be Putin’s buddy according to press / his opponents. Not turned out that way

Action : Inaction is not an easy choice and there are casualties both ways.

Those figures are meaningless there’s no way you can know how many would have died/been saved through action or inaction.

As for Trump/Putin this one action means nothing too, now that Russia have escalated it we’ll see what Trump does.

Its the same justifications used to remove Saddam and Gaddafi?, odd that ninfan and Jamba are suddenly believers in the Blair doctrine?

It seems that some people are unable to learn from history

Trumps unpredictability is doing well here, no one knows if this is a limited attack or if he’d follow it up with a full on war, his paper thin skin and wrecklessness means hopefully that chemical weapons would not be used by Assad again.

Its also helped hugely with his image of being Putin’s puppet without doing any damage to Russia
I’ll bet Putin is starting to regret helping him win that election now!

For now at least it seems to have been his first smart move since becoming president

Inaction 3 years ago has seen 100,000 – 150,000 more deaths in the Civil War and contributed to the situation where Assad has “won”

Without intervention in Iraq its likely 500,000 Yazidis would have been slaughtered. Their race exterminated.

Yes sure a few troops knocking at his door and Assad would have raised the white hanky and invited everyone in for a kebab.

Bus seriously I believe that if rather than invading Iraq we had had further negotiations with Saddam he would have allowed elections become a lovely bloke and be a judge at RHS Chelsea by now.

Not very smart if it means an increased Russian presence in Syria.

his paper thin skin and wrecklessness means hopefully that chemical weapons would not be used by Assad again

Assuming he used them in the first place….

For all the chat about the need for gloves etc..

Sarin evaporates quite quickly, usually faster than water.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-39513193