UK ‘porn block’ starts April 1 – but you can unlock it by handing over ID or buying £5 ‘porn card’ on your local high street
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/8565486/porn-uk-ban-unlock-card/
Guess sales of VPNs will be going up
The new rules are expected to come into effect on April 1, though an exact date has not yet been set.
Aye, right...
April 1st, who would have thought about releasing a statement like that on April 1st?
🤷♂️🧟♂️
I can see no problems with this legislation - it will work perfectly.
For an example, porn is illegal in Thailand. Anyone who has visited will be able to confirm there is no porn in that country. Making it illegal is 100% effective.
Edit, never mind
The problem these days is that the red tops post blatant lies all year around not just on April 1. So who's to know? Best assume everything you read in a red top is bollocks.
Best assume everything you read in a red top is bollocks.
My rule is simpler - don’t read them.
First planned for some time last year but got put on hold after even the maybot realised it was badly planned.
Multiple flaws not least overseas providers can simply ignore it and others can amuse themselves by getting under the limit on porn vs other offerings.
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The problem these days is that the red tops post blatant lies all year around not just on April 1. So who’s to know? Best assume everything you read in a red top is bollocks.
Or, rather than wasting precious bytes to post that, you could have just gone to your favourite search engine and typed in "online porn block uk april 2019" and got the following results and saved us all some time:
https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2019/01/uk-governments-ineffective-internet-porn-ban-set-start.html
https://news.sky.com/story/porn-websites-to-check-uk-users-ages-as-law-passes-11604331
https://metro.co.uk/2019/01/07/plan-require-id-online-porn-april-go-ahead-8317148/
Are the government trying to actively create civil unrest?
Forget No-Deal Brexit, if you want to see real riots on the streets then just try blocking porn!
"The legislation can be used to compel ISPs to block access to non-compliant websites," added Mr Brown.
"Worryingly, this does not involve a court, and it expressly permits 'overblocking' - the blocking of 'material other than the offending material'."
Not at all bothered about a (presumably ineffective) attempt to block underage access to porn, but this is more worrying imo, another incursion into net neutrality.
A friend of mine is wondering if he will still be able to access P**nhub without a government issued masturbation license?
Start stockpiling now just in case.
Start?
A friend of mine is wondering if he will still be able to access P**nhub without a government issued masturbation license?
I don't look forward to the test to acquire the license.
a government issued masturbation license?
🤠☝️
Not at all bothered about a (presumably ineffective) attempt to block underage access to porn, but this is more worrying imo, another incursion into net neutrality.
Pretty much my thoughts. We're quietly turning into China.
It's all rather pointless anyway, it's not like it's difficult to bypass ISP filtering.
It’s all rather pointless anyway, it’s not like it’s difficult to bypass ISP filtering.
Are you going to post a guide? Asking for a friend😉
Government issued masturbation licence
I see this going the way of the hunting ban.
We’re quietly turning into China.
I think the problem is that we're turning Japanese. (I really think so).
It’s all rather pointless anyway, it’s not like it’s difficult to bypass ISP filtering.
I dunno some seem to struggle even using a VPN.
Its not actually being banned as such just controlled.
Are you going to post a guide?
TOR browser, for a start. Creates an encrypted tunnel (which the ISP cannot see into) with an endpoint in another country. And the only way they'll block that is by outlawing encryption, which would be a really ****ig stupid thing to do so I wouldn't put it past Enola May to try.
We’re quietly turning into China.
I think the problem is that we’re turning Japanese. (I really think so).
Well I laughed*
*The Yorkshire lol: downturned corners of mouth briefly twitched towards the horizontal
I think the problem is that we’re turning Japanese. (I really think so).
Indeed and where will the teenagers get their kicks then?
Its not actually being banned as such just controlled.
Yeah, but aside from anything else, part of my job is to investigate dodgy websites (OK, not grot per se, but malware-infected pages and suchlike). Anything put in place 'for my protection' makes my job (slightly) more difficult. I'm not a fan of slippery-slope arguments generally, but I have a real concern here that this is the thin end of a very large wedge. I don't really want to start ringing Sky up to justify my being able to visit places like Shodan.
Cougar
And the only way they’ll block that is by outlawing encryption, which would be a really ****ig stupid thing to do so I wouldn’t put it past Enola May to try.
Didn't they try that one already? 🤦♂️
In Tor you can choose a favoured country code for the exit node, so that should work. However it's pretty slow. VPN is a lot better solution.
How long do you think it will be until one of the companies doing the verification has a data breach?
Didn’t they try that one already?
Australia are currently trying it again so why not our muppets?
How long do you think it will be until one of the companies doing the verification has a data breach?
One of the more prominent ones is Mindgeek. Its a great website to look at. Vague as anything in what they do beyond data stuff. In reality they are the owners of pornhub and many of the other large porn sites.
If people don't want people on their network to have access to a random list of sites why not install some parental control software or whatever? Why is this a government thing?
Why is this a government thing?
Because the redtops or the daily hate made a thing of it I suspect. That and many parents cant be arsed doing their job.
In some ways I am slightly in favour of it. We need a more IT literate population and this sort of thing will help boost it amongst schoolkids.
Can we ask that Grayling is put in charge of the scheme?
We need a more IT literate population and this sort of thing will help boost it amongst schoolkids.
Ha! Brilliant subversive logic!
Indeed and where will the teenagers get their kicks then?
Are you suggesting that this law will make it so hard to beat?
Amusing thread juxtaposition on the front page just now.
the return of hedgeporn? grumble being blocked from april 1st
Exercise / workout videos
Didn’t they try that one already? 🤦♂️
Yeah. It's ludicrous for two reasons.
1) It's no exaggeration to say that blocking encrypted traffic would open up catastrophically massive security risks. Fancy doing your online banking over HTTP? Internet shopping?
2) Attempting to ban secure encryption instead would be impossible as the knowledge and technology is in the public domain. If you could somehow remove all the existing tech (and good luck with that), it'd be ten minutes' work for a competent coder to just rewrite it. It'd be like attempting to ban French.
Oh, this made me laugh. From that Sky article:
"Although the porn regulations had been delayed as the government sought to work out some kinks,"
The only way newspapers used to keep going is because people bought a copy so they could hide their Jazz mag in when walking away from the newsagent! 🙂
The fall in newspaper sales since the rise of the internet is no coincidence!
the return of hedgeporn?
...which would itself expose the children to the sorts of utter FILTH that this well-intentioned and not at all ill-thought-out initiative is supposed to block from them.
It's almost as if it's got nothing to do with children and more about a weirdly prudish government on some kind of moral crusade trying to insert itself ever further into the lives of its mindless drones, sorry, voters.
Can we ask that Grayling is put in charge of the scheme?
Fifty Shades of Grayling.
Now there's a thought.
Fifty Shades of Grayling.
#strangest
TOR browser, for a start. Creates an encrypted tunnel (which the ISP cannot see into) with an endpoint in another country. And the only way they’ll block that is by outlawing encryption,
TOR is trivial to block. Well, prevent from working would be a better description. Many wifi networks accessible to the public have prevented it from working across their networks.
Can we ask that Grayling is put in charge of the scheme?
Really unsure about that.
Either it wouldnt work (just the block) or it wouldnt work (the entire UK access to the internet).
My money is on the latter with that idiot.
I don’t look forward to the test to acquire the license.
Presumably you won't be allowed any minors
I’m on O2, and there have been any number of occasions where the Wi-fi I’ve been using has dropped out, and the search I was doing*, (no, not pron), has given me a finger-wagging nanny page telling me I could carry on if I verified my age by giving O2 my credit card number...
They have all my details, including my bank account, so why do they bother with that bullshit?
*Often it was a site which had knives as part of their inventory. 🙄
Quote - Can we ask that Grayling is put in charge of the scheme?
Why not - after all it is coming in on his birthday
Hoping it doesn’t include phrases like bike porn
TOR is trivial to block. Well, prevent from working would be a better description. Many wifi networks accessible to the public have prevented it from working across their networks.
And it is equally trivial to overcome. Literally googling "TOR blocked" points you in the right direction. Do you not think the likes of China haven't already tried that rather obvious tactic?
In the event of a hard wanxit I am preparing to open up my personal stockpiles, providing 10000 years supply at present rates of consumption
I'm waiting for the Government to blame the EU for not allowing porn across a "hard" border.
Looks on the bright side, at least all yall forearms will get smaller so you will be less likely to get compartment syndrome (arm pump) in one arm whilst riding.
Yes but for years I've been compensating for my bike pulling to the right. I'm going to have to re-adjust.
And it is equally trivial to overcome
It isn't. I've not just googled it I've tried it and then tried to block it and so on. Even the bridging feature doesn't overcome some prevention.
VPNs are harder.
Perhaps we will be made to make our own?
Free POV cameras? Unlimited supplies of Readers Wives with dodgy hair, knee boobs and hairy legs.
I worked for rollerblade magazine once. My suggestion of a Readers Mums feature went down very badly.
Didn't MBUK have a readers wives section at one point?
Start?
what by organising content by theme, ditching any 720p poor quality files and making sure you have a back-up?
Cigarettes are only available to over 16 year olds and alcohol for over 18s.
you can unlock it by handing over ID or buying £5 ‘porn card’ on your local high street
If you can buy a pass over the counter from your local newsagents then I don't really see the point. The kids smoking and drinking in town will still get the cards underage.
The government has just spent 150 million on online ID system. If they were serious about it, they would use this.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/technology-47444308
I personally don't understand why this isnt the parents responsibility.
looks like the resurgence of hedgeporn has been shitcanned lads 😢
MPs in not understanding technology shocker.
As such, they will go after VPNs now.
Who'd a thunk this government could **** something up because of bumbling incompetence and European red tape?
So the government's spunked millions up the wall on something fundamentally undeliverable?
I don't really need to type out the rest of this post, do I...
I'd be surprised if the motivation was anything more than yet another cynical attempt to lever money out of people's pockets. Bunch of hypocrites that they are - my local MP got himself into a wee spot of bother not too long ago when his pron-browsing habits on his parliamentary laptop became public knowledge.
Was there a subsequent parliamentary discussion about the right honourable member?
I’d be surprised if the motivation was anything more than yet another cynical attempt to lever money out of people’s pockets
It was just a pleaser for the daily hail and for those parents concerned about their kids looking at porn but not enough to bother supervising them themselves properly. Whilst failing to realise all it will do is give them a quick education in computer security circumvention.
Curses!
Does this mean my timely investment in Razzle and Big Jugs is now defunct?
So the government’s spunked millions up the wall on something fundamentally undeliverable?
Yeah, but. We’re the first country in the world to do it. So yay us.
Whilst failing to realise all it will do is give them a quick education in computer security circumvention.
The notion that most typical parents will know more about computers than their kids amused me when I was 13, and I've not had much cause to revise that view in the succeeding ~35 years.
The notion that most typical parents will know more about computers than their kids amused me when I was 13, and I’ve not had much cause to revise that view in the succeeding ~35 years.
My mum keeps telling me that I am wrong to let MiniMe have a PC and internet in his bedroom as I can't supervise what he is doing. It does not matter how many times I point out that he bought his own phone and it is more than capable of all the nasty stuff she wants me to prevent by putting his PC in the lounge...
That and the fact that he (or at least his buddies) can circumnavigate any 'security' I put in place unless I put it under physical lock and key...and even that is probably not enough.
Gutted to think of all the hours I wasted trying to complete Pornhub before 15 July.
lol
trying to complete Pornhub
gutted to think of all the hours I wasted trying to complete Pornhub
That's some box set!
Does this mean my timely investment in Razzle and Big Jugs is now defunct?
You may have, err, gone too early - literally a schoolboy error
at your age you should realise that these things can go down as well as up
by putting his PC in the lounge
Why was I drawn back to [url= https://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/mumsnet-gold/ ]this thread...?[/url]
Another waste of money on a failed government project.
Northwind
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hard wanxit
I just laughed at this joke and then discovered it was written by 7-months-ago me.
Another waste of money on a failed government project.
It seems to be mostly non government money wasted though.
I am amazed though they finally realised it was a bad idea.
Lets wait and see what these "other measures" are beyond parents actually taking responsibility for their kids.
I just laughed at this joke and then discovered it was written by 7-months-ago me.
I do that a lot.
I used to be much funnier.
"OCL, one of the firms offering age verification tools, was not happy about the decision."
I can't possibly imagine why.
I used to be much funnier.
No you didn't. (-: