[Closed] The 1st ever ST magazine

I bought mine in the cafe at Afan. It was cheap as it was an old copy, the next issue was for sale at the full price.

i bought mine in smiths, must find it, did it have an orange 5 review and a planet x compo in it?

I think I brought the first one from Chipps at the bike show?

planet x compo...........a bike for leking about on't moors on 😆

planet x compo...........a bike for leking about on't moors on

they were good them.

still got the stw one in my garage.

My first 50:

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I started a subscription at issue 4 (and got the previous issues on backorder). This coincided with me getting back into cycling after several years off the bike.

-j

I got mine from 559 Bikes in Chepstow and then subscribed. Mostly enjoy it; some issues have more for me, some issues less.

Have to confess that I've never been the type to let the day-to-day shenanigans of a website [i]upset[/i] me though 😕

My mate Pistol Pete was the first cover model while I was photo gimp for the cross ride article shot in Black Spout Woods in Pitlochry with Chris Duncan of Velo Club Moulin. It was pretty cold when we did the pics but nothing compared to the proper winter we are enjoying at the moment. 😀

First issue I bought was number 9. Guess that makes me a trend-following arriviste 🙂

Russ Pinder sold me mine. I think there were a load of volunteer distributors/contributors in the early days and I worry that those people are forgotten now the mag. is a true commercial venture.

Have been a subscriber since issue one when 500 was the minimum number of subscribers required to make the whole thing float. I wonder how many there are now.

Dogsby

I am lifetime subscriber #1 and I still have my copy of issue 1 [i]somewhere[/i]...

i read it in mbmb's chalet in chamonix

Only discovered the magazine when it had hit double figures, having been in and out of the gofar site before I got properly back into riding.

I'm still a subscriber since, I dunno, issue 14 or something, although I have to confess I tend to move the magazines on these days, so don't retain copies.

I got issue 1 at the bike show too and have been subscribing ever since.
Think I remember it coming with a goody bag IIRC.

Sadly I think I have all the old copies in my loft.

I didn't post much then ( I think it still may have been "go far" ) as I wasn't one of the original suspects in the "virtual pub type thing" that this place used to be.

Don't post much now either although I do lurk quite a bit.

Glad some of you remember when all of this was orange and lilac...

Still waiting for my subs copy, don't spoil the surprise by telling me what's in it. 😆

I remember those gofar clowns and the 'if you all pre-subscribe we might make this thing fly'. Hi Matt 🙂
I know they can't and all, but it's a shame they can't get away with things like the #5 cover any more.

I just checked...

There are currently 7 people on the banned list.

In November we had 425,000 unique users visit the site.

The trouble with the tiny number of trouble makers is that they are a very VERY vocal minority that seems to be intent on propagating some belief in a heavy handed moderation policy that actually doesn't exist. It's not the vocal minority that we cater for but the silent majority, and the feedback we get from them supporting our moderation policy tells us quite clearly that we are on the right track. For every abusive user we rarely ban who states 'it's just a laugh..' there's hundreds of users who are glad to see the back of them. We don't want.... actually... The majority of forum users don't want foul language, abuse and mysoginistic posts - They really don't. And while that's the feedback we overwhelmingly receive we will continue to support the majority and strive to moderate this forum accordingly.

But come on.... there are seven people banned.. 7. That's not even double figures! In fact the banned list has never hit double figures... EVER!

That said, it's Xmas and in order for us all here to have at least some time to switch off from this place and not worry about checking it every few hours (or more) over the holiday period, any bans handed out from today will be for the whole christmas period.. Which is a repeat of the exact same policy we had last Christmas..

As for the good old days of when we weren't a commercial business... well give or take a decade getting used to running one, we've never been anything but a business. It did take us three years before we were earning enough to pay any wages mind, but it was always a full time job for at least three of us right from the start 🙂

Ah.. Orange and Lilac! 🙂
Stolen Van with 1800 copies of issue 1 in it plus all my underwear...
Van was returned... including all the mags.. Sadly my underwear is still missing. 🙂

[I] I think there were a load of volunteer distributors/contributors in the early days and I worry that those people are forgotten now the mag. is a true commercial venture.[/I]

Yup, rode around West Yorks with a BoB trailer full of mags getting shops to stock it. Not an easy thing to forget...

I think the cheque I wrote to advertise "Rapid Descent Innovations" in Singletrackworld issue 1 was the first cheque ever cashed by GoFAR enterprises Ltd. I was on the original GoFAR team before the magazine came about. Really really pleased about the way that the magazine has taken shape and become a business. Matt and the team did a good job getting this going

wasn't it the first mtb cover to have a bike rider facing the other way?

Interestingly, I found my first copy last night- issue 7, autumn 2002. It was quarterly back then and the website changed with every issue. It was interesting, had loads of "unusual" but eloquent articles.

I don't read it now, but did get all the way up to about issue 45 and my housemate still reads it- I think my riding style has changed and the middleagedmincecore of ST no longer appeals to me while Dirt appeals to me a lot more.

I've got the issues 2 - 53 if anybody wants to make me an offer. Stafford-based.

In fact the banned list has never hit double figures... EVER!

Was fairly active on GoFar and one of the original subscribers (though I stopped getting the mag for a few years and only restarted following the evilzone episode - have to admit I am considering un-ubscribing again, as I seem to have lost my biking mojo and tend not to be that inspired by the mag - have only read about half of the current one).

I think I had one of the pre-production/mock up copies which Chipps and Mark gave me in a Yorshire pub over lunch.

I'd taken them some bikes and bit's to test and they were trying to sell me some advertising. We had no money at the time to do so, but gave them a bike to give away to one lucky, new subscriber at the bike show at the NEC.

Glad to see things are still going well. It's still my favourite mag and I do spend far to long on here!

The trouble with the tiny number of trouble makers is that they are a very VERY vocal minority that seems to be intent on propagating some belief in a heavy handed moderation policy that actually doesn't exist.

Having used a few other forums I'd totally agree with that. On one forum I've seen a thread closed becuse the conversation went of topic! 😯 Do that on STW and there'd be no threads at all!

I was banned from the Ducati Monster owners forum for indirectly suggesting someone might be a cock. I was sticking up for cyclists at the time..... 😕

I (Matt) bailed out in Autumn 2000 and can't take any credit for getting the print mag onto the shelves. Didn't realise you guys had to survive for so long without actually making any money, respect due.

What plans for the tenth year anniversary issue though?

Subscribed from ish 1 back in the days when I used BM forum and IIRC Shaun was touting for business and reasonably enough said on a thread moaning about the crap mags out there said "well put your money where your mouth is and we'll try to deliver". I think they've succeeded though maybe the mag is no longer the 'must read' for me that it used to be.

As to bannings, while the crackdown seems to have raised the banned number (or at least the very obvious ones), it doesn't seem particularly unreasonable to me though I did almost get caught out having not read about the policy of enforcing the rules more than in the past.

Hi Matt! 🙂

If anyone isn't familiar with our history DoctorRad was responsible for the earliest incarnation of this very website ( Gofar-mtb.com) origin of our company name Gofar Entreprises Ltd.

We are planning the 10th anniversary issue now. That's issue 64 - due out in March. Nothing finalised yet but lots of good ideas 🙂

I'm one of the five issues for a tenner subscribers too. How the time has flown!

Does anyone remember getting a hand signed letter from Chipps, Shaun and myself around issue 3? We had about a 1000 subscribers then but we had no distribution system for the mags so we had to hand stuff them into envelopes and lick and stick 4 2nd class stamps on every one. Trouble was we personally addressed all the letters and signed them.... then addressed all the envelopes...

But we hadn't matched up the letters with the envelopes... so we spent the better part of three days going through 1000 A4 envelopes matching them to the hand signed personal letters we'd done 🙂

I remember hand delivering some copies of the mag to local subscribers too... 🙂

My first issue was issue 4. I'm always at the unfashionable end of a breaking wave.

First heard about the forum in 2002 after a riding buddy said you lot had been talking about me. Took an age to access on dial-up.

I'm sure I never got a hand signed letter Mark - I demand one now (please)!

I got mine from the 9feet.com office... I think.

I also subscribed in the 5 for the price of 4 offer at the start. Had rarely read a mag in a few years as nithing much interesting. It appealed to me as even then I was a middle aged mincer....

Doesn't seem like almost 10 years though!

issue six judging by that photo was my first, bought in a little newsagents in Musselburgh

What really stuck out for me was the amount of guff that was missing from the cover, now you have to subscribe to enjoy that level of neatness

ahhh the early days.
+ the early shows were a lot of fun; especially maniac "Vin Diesel" bus drivers on the way home after a bike show at Islington and selling magazines one-at-a-time to people.

+ losing the van at the NEC and the finding it still full of magazines

+ had some great rides up in calderdale and even considered moving there until I moved straight past and on up to scotland

+ going to a really early trade bike show at the NEC with ink-jet printed GoFAR business cards and bluffing our way into the show - the organising body (pro bike shop) claimed that "The Internet" would never feature in UK cycling.

I subscribed for a few years from about Issue 4. Got back orders back to 2, but 1 was sold out. I recall one having a whole heap of pages duplicated and a matching heap of pages missing. Think it was #6.

I asked my mum for the subscription for Xmas or Birthday -

write the check to Gofar Enterprises, that's 'Gofar' space 'Enterprises'

I enjoyed it most when it was small, rustic and local - saddle stitched not perfect bound! I stopped subscribing when it went more international; I recall a photo special having about 2 pages of UK riding and the rest were shots from places I could never go. That wasn't for me.

How is Shaun these days?

Hope you guys sorted your differences out.

Nice to hear some of the story behind the mag! Am also now sober, and less 'upset'!

😮

But come on.... there are seven people banned.. 7. That's not even double figures! In fact the banned list has never hit double figures... EVER!

8 now you big hairy flange twiddler.....

??

😐

chuckle @ boxelder 🙂

I remember the conversation with Chipps, Mark, Shaun & Brant on bikemagic where they were discussing the possibility of doing the mag, I also remember a printed promise of the ads to content ratio, one of those things happened 😉
I still fondly remember the early days, meeting up with some great folk, the 'characters', the shear shock of meeting 'beer' at Woburn & finding out he was actually just a decent funny guy, sitting on the STW stand at Mayhem 04 & Chipps & Mark not really talking to anyone.

I do miss driving to see 'ad man matt' as he is now known, when he run one of the best shops in the business, to pick up a copy of STW, still got issue one, although minus the cover now 🙁

Keep it up guys, the mag & the forum has evolved, but then it always had to to be viable.

Cheers.

For the fellow n00bs (I subscribed around issue 30), this might be a useful bit of background reading:

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://Gofar-mtb.com

I chuffin' love the internet.

[url= http://web.archive.org/web/20021106151754/www.singletrackworld.com/forum/read.php?f=2&i=181864&t=181864 ]Takes me back a bit ;)[/url]

Nothing changes, people still moaning about not getting their magazine on time 🙂

i have bought and still got every single issue.

i am a sad ****............. 🙁

OMG - I'm still using this disc caliper on my FSR:

http://web.archive.org/web/20001029185752/www.gofar-mtb.com/Reviews/64.1.html

Do you want a full review now lads?

Cunningly photographed on an inside-out Polaris top, and I think that may indeed be the photoshoot which overheated and broke one of my Lumicycle cans. Ah, those were the days...

"Have been a subscriber since issue one when 500 was the minimum number of subscribers required to make the whole thing float. I wonder how many there are now."

Me too, i wonder how many of the original 500 are still subscribing?

I also remember a printed promise of the ads to content ratio, one of those things happened

Eh? The ad ratio has consistently stayed well below our maximum target. The mag currently has 33% set aside for ads as a maximum. Typically in the other mags you will the ratio is between 45 and 55%. :-p

i started subscribing on issue 3 or 4; but have copies from issue 2.
my old mate pete showed me the first issue and i really enjoyed it.
i stopped my subscription on issue 51 as i found the magazine getting more "140mm hardtaily" instead of the "100mm just bimbling along with the occasional blast" type of riding that i tend to do.

hope that makes sense?

...or those like me who stopped and then restarted.

Actually, you're probably also right about the reason I stopped (and considering stopping again), farmer giles. Just don't really identify with a lot of the stuff in the mag now - is it just turning into "another MTB mag"?

Sub no. just under 700, still got them all as insulation in the loft somewhere. I vaguely remember there was a call on the GoFar forum for subs to get things moving, and as I wasn't married and was childless at that point it seemed worth a punt for £15.

There's always something worth reading in every issue, that's good enough for me, plus it keeps this place going.. work would be far less pleasant without it.

Eh? The ad ratio has consistently stayed well below our maximum target. The mag currently has 33% set aside for ads as a maximum. Typically in the other mags you will the ratio is between 45 and 55%. :-

Wasn't 25% the figure banded about back in the day for what its worth.

As per Speshpaul, 25% was the original number, I'm sure it was printed in one of the first magazines to, I'll see if I can dig it out.
Cheers.

Aye, that's me on the cover of Issue 1.

Wasn't 25% the figure banded about back in the day for what its worth.

It was, but the early issues didn't get close to that, hence them looking really good. You can't run a magazine without income though.

yes, I seem to recall touting about 50 copies of the mag round Edinburgh; also my work had sent me, with a hire estate car, down to London and back on the launch weekend - or close to it. Slight detour saw me collect several boxes of mags from Mark on way down, try to flog some of them at the Panasonic trade show I attended, then drop off several boxes round the Lakes on the way back... happy days.

Doctor Rad - hello there fella !!

Callum

I remeber seeing it in a bike shop in Edinburgh (the one near the junction of Bellevue and East Claremont Street, down the road from Broughton Street)

That'll be our shop!

Nice thread. That's it, I'm subscribing. Now what to put in that hipflask? 😀

I was grabbed by Mark and 2 ladies at one of the Sleepless events at Trentham. IIRC, they were giving out mags at the previous months (6 wks previous?) Red Bull 24hr at W. Brom (forgot the name of the course now!), and signing up people for subs at a reduced rate at trentham, that must have been the 3rd issue.I signed up on the day.
Christ how time flies. Still subscribing, the mag had a dip a few years ago, when I think it lost its focus, but it is getting a little better again now, though I still think there are some really rubbish articles in it - broken thumb this month - rubbish.

Alan.

2unfit2ride - Member
Takes me back a bit

If you weren't so posh that you stayed at 'the Inn' you may have got a sneak preview of your copies before they were sent out; winks, touches nose, know what I mean... 😉 8)

Me, posh? If you say so, but I think you'll find it's all relative depending on where in the world you live 😉
Ahh, Andy, you still in touch? I must make the effort to get out more 🙁