[Closed] Swear filter: Is it me, or is it getting a bit silly?

Don't be such a whining ****.
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Ah, come on; who's in charge of the filter? The ghost of Mary Whitehouse???

BTW; I have intended this as a sensible discussion, not a swearathon. The wonderful colourfulness and complexity of our language has space for a few 'strong' words, no?

You sir are a donkey ****ing shite licker. A forum that's used almost exclusively by adults shouldnt shy away from adult language. What is the worst that can happen? The forum might descend into a place where people actually type the way most people talk????? Dear god noooo!

If it's a place for adults, then there's no need for swearing, no?

RudeBoy, I think that's one of the great things about the English language, the amazing flexibility and scope for inventive swearing.

Knobjockey.

I think there should be a list of all the words we're not allowed to use displayed prominently, where we can all see it.
That would simplify the whole thing.

Surely Hell isn't censored. That would be religous censorship 🙂

Blmey! H-e-l-l is being censored. We're going to hell in a handcart that's for sure 🙂

Come on, folks; don't be silly now...

(Realises the thread will now probably descend into infantile stupidity, and actually be a hindrance to the cause of Free Speech...) 🙄

i am amazed that '****' is not filtered, it gets used so much here!

what about a few more in there? Today I am thinking 'shimano' and 'xtr'.

See, I can't actually get at what IanMunroe was trying to say, because of the filter!!! Ridiculous!

Gone too far. PPs suggestion is a good one.

Personally, I think these words are acceptable, as they have descriptive use:

B4stard
Sh1t
P1ss
Dyk3
H3ll
ars3
and others.

I mean, in this day and age, using words like those is hardly bloody swearing!

Can we say 'bloody'??

cockerel

julianwilson - Member
i am amazed that '****' is not filtered, it gets used so much here!

Why would it be? It's not a word. Neither is ****er or fuktard, or twunt, or cawk.

Now if you'll excuse me I'm away to bagpipe the vicar,but not before I teabag yer ma and engage in a spot of docking with yer da.

Christian Bale meets the STW swear filter:

[i]Christian Bale: Am I going to walk around and rip your **yikes!** lights down, in the middle of a scene? Then why the **yikes!** are you walking right through? Ah-da-da-dah, like this in the background. What the **yikes!** is it with you? What don't you **yikes!** understand? You got any **yikes!** idea about, hey, it's **yikes!** distracting having somebody walking up behind Bryce in the middle of the **yikes!**scene? Give me a **yikes!** answer! What don't you get about it?
Shane Hurlbut: I was looking at the light.
Bale: Ohhhhh, goooood for you. And how was it? I hope it was **yikes!** good, because it's useless now, isn't it?
Hurlbut: OK.
Bale: **yikes!** sake man, you're amateur. McG, you got **yikes!** something to say to this **yikes!**?
Director Joseph 'McG' McGinty Nichol: I didn't see it happen.
Bale: Well, somebody should be **yikes!** watching and keeping an eye on him.
McG: Fair enough.
Bale: It's the second time that he doesn't give a **yikes!** about what is going on in front of the camera, all right? I'm trying to **yikes!** do a scene here, and I am going "Why the **yikes!** is Shane walking in there? What is he doing there?" Do you understand my mind is not in the scene if you're doing that?[/i]

etc etc

I agree whilst the word football remains uncensored the swear filter is silly.

I pity anyone trying to organise a ride starting at Devils Dyke.

IanMunro - Member
I pity anyone trying to organise a ride starting at Devils **yikes!**.

You mean devils ringpiece? Devils clunge?

Oh fiddlesticks. You boys should be carful with your mis-spelled nasty language or I can see Mr Moderator handing out some slapped bottoms for evading the aforementioned swear filter.....

so is deliberate evasion of the swear filter still a banning offence.

On an altogether lighter note....my pussy and my beaver are snatching at one another.

EDIT: I meant my kitty cat, not a muff or front bum, obviously.

Generally the visitors to the forum are adults but there are no age restrictions. That freedom demands a level of self moderation from its users.

ATM, it's like a Stalinist purge!

Come on, mods. A rethink, perhaps?

Drac, well put, sir!

Yup it is.

[i]# No abusive or foul language - There is a swear filter on the site that will capture what we consider to be the most offensive vocabulary but any attempt to evade this swear filter will result in that post or thread being deleted.[/i]

Oh I can see a banning coming soon for someone brave/foolish

Some explanation - there's been a new swear filter installed very recently, but unfortunately currently still with the default settings. It's not really intentional. Bear with us while we trim it down to reasonable settings. Now would probably not be a good time to come up with ways to evade the filter, which the moderators generally take a dim view of.

All I'm asking for, is a bit of common sense. None of the words I suggested as being ok were banned before. And I don't think there was a problem. I would use any of those words in a conversation with most people, as would maost peopl eon here, I'd imagine. I wouldn't personally use the f and c words in conversation with people other than those I know wouldn't be offended by them.

EG, If I was telling someone about a night out, I might say 'ooh, I got a bit p1ssed last night'. What's wrong with that? Hardly spouting a torrent of filth, is it?

'Oh, I fell off me bike, landed on me ars3'. 'Got dog-sh1t all over me tyre'.
Etc,

Thank you, Tom!

Good to see that things will be sensible!

I think the sort of idiots that would abuse the filter in a stupid manner, wouldn't last long on here anyway. There are 'other' forums for such juvenile behaviour...

If I can get banned for a day for quoting blackadder, then you lot should be well out of here.! 🙄

While we're amending the filter, please can "on-one" "tensioner" "ss frame" "what tyre?" and "CRC" be culled?

That ****ing 'yikes thing is a bit of a bastard though. It's a bit ****ing Famous ****ing Five, stupid ****s. So why the **** isn't hell allowed, is the swear filter gaurdian some sort of ****ing religious bastard, can we say 'jesus' and 'christ' or does the **** not ****ing allow that either. Oh for ****s sake I give up. At least we're allowed to type CK,TT and football now. I'm going for my ****ing lunch, but I need a piss first.

Oh you are allowed to say that then , so '****s' is allowed but '****' isn't. So I can swear at a group but not an individual - cool 😉

There should be no swear filter. Use of language should be at the individuals discretion. It's a nonsense - saying "My stomach feels a little queer" is not the same as an overtly homophobic attack.

djglover - Member

If I can get banned for a day for quoting blackadder, then you lot should be well out of here.! [:roll:]

whisper what you quoted

My post from last night is a case in point:

"Poorly maintained road bike bites me in the **yikes!** again!
Any ideas how to get the bugger out?"

Good job I didn't say the bike buggered me in the ar5e or it would've made no sense!

Some of those mis-spelled swear words MUST be allowed, or they wouldn't allow names like [url= http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/profile/**** ]THIS[/url]

Bloody h3ll; have you seen that?

Bewildering...

"Poorly maintained road bike bites me in the **yikes!** again!
Any ideas how to get the bugger out?"

I dont see the need for all the swearing or filter-avoiding methods, swearing works best when it's used rarely and in times of exasperation. Using it the rest of the time just looks stupid and like you never left your early adolescence IMO. I'm all for the increased filter, maybe then people will realise how frequently they actually use words that could be considered offensive. I did find "TT" in the old filter a little stupid though! It we all go about using h3ll instead of the actual word, or c nut instead of ****, we might as well just write the original. And it seems c nut has been filtered too now 🙂

So is the guy whos profile I linked to above now called **yikes!** then?

For the first couple of days, when this new type forum appeared, there as no swear filter. Because everybody expected it to be there, everyone exercised restraint.

Agreed, not everyone can be expected to be sensible, but it was good to see people not being idiots, and descending into abuse.

nickc - Member
If it's a place for adults, then there's no need for swearing, no?

Fair point, but language can be fun, and there's no reason it can' be a little 'colourful', in the right context. Meant to be a relaxed forum.

H3ll, p1ssed-off, 'dyk3'; is there a need to censor these words too?

I agree with the first two. But isn't that last one generally about as offensive as calling person of African descent a word that rhymes with digger?

Not to say that is should be censored. We're all big boys here. But I think saying that it is non-offensive is a stretch.

Answer - NO.
It appears his account has been removed. I hope it's been explained to him as to why, so he can get another log-in....

EDIT : Shut up, Peter. It's back again.

[i]And it seems c nut has been filtered too now[/i] But ****s hasn't, I wonder if bastards has?

Oh it has now, with the far more sensible star approach

and we can say piss and hell too. Someone is paying attention 😆

Fair point, but language can be fun, and there's no reason it can' be a little 'colourful', in the right context. Meant to be a relaxed forum.

Not sure we can define how the mods want their forum to be, relaxed or not. Yes people exercised restraint, though as soon as a filter arrived people started treating it like a challenge - a bit pathetic IMO!

But isn't that last one generally about as offensive as calling person of African descent a word that rhymes with digger?

What, 'dyke'? (Dike, dik3, dyk3)? I don't think so. I think Lesbian women use it to describe themselves. Like some Gay men use the word 'queer'.

In fact, is censoring it not actually a bit homophobic?

TBH, there's actually very little that needs censoring, as long as people can be respectful of the forum, and each other.

Coffeeking- I agree that excessive use of obscenities is just stupid, and a pain to others. But the forum is a place where 'normal', everyday language should be ok.

Bit of self-restraint is all it takes, And I think most people on here can exercise that. There will always be one or two idiots, and things can get a little fruity of a Friday night, I've noticed, but as long as people act in a responsible manner, then there shoon't be a problem.

What, 'dyke'? (Dike, dik3, dyk3)? I don't think so. I think Lesbian women use it to describe themselves. Like some Gay men use the word 'queer'.

And I believe young black gentlemen may refer to each other as "niggaz" or some such. But it would still earn me a punch in the face if I did it!

rudeboy you wally you no the mods here hand out there bans for fun, step away from the keyboard and have a cuppa.

RB - dyk3 is to lesbians what the "N" word is to black people - they apparently can use it themselves but we cant. I'm not sure how come but its not socialy acceptable. I have a gay mate who calls himself a poof and a few other things, but if you were to use it in a derogatory way he'd be offended. Its how you say it, and a forum is a bad place to convey pleasant humour. If you cant think of any other terminology to describe such a person maybe you shouldnt be thnking of it as a descriptor at all.

TBH, there's actually very little that needs censoring, as long as people can be respectful of the forum, and each other

And so, as you well know RB, that is exactly WHY we need the swear filter: Because some idiots drop through the net, and they just can't do that....

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The point you have to remember is that although we all use the filtered language in the workplace and maybe even other such public places, you make a judgement on choice of language based on your immediate audience. Most of us filter our language in situations for example where your granny is sat next to you - well I do 🙂

That applies here. You have to remember that when you post on this forum you are publishing your comments to a huge audience, even if you only intend it to be read by a select few. It's a bit like having a microphone on the table in the pub with your mates. If you new that microphone was broadcasting your conversation to huge speakers in the street you would temper your language.

This forum is predominantly aimed at adults, BUT it can be accessed by everyone, including children. An incident happened last month where a pornographic image was posted and one user was reading the forum with his daughter sat on his knee. You MUST consider the effect of your posts on the wider audience before you push the button. So you MUST temper your language on this forum. We really don't care what other forums do. These are the rules of this one. And as a reminder, attempts to evade the swear filter WILL result in suspensions from the forum.

The problem with swearing is that as we all know things can get a little heated on here somethimes, thats when swearing becomes a problem - individuals start naming calling and it could get nasty. Personally I'd rather that wasn't an option.

My favourites are the over-dubbing on some 80/90's films Coming to America - Samuel Jackson saying 'forget you' (instead of **** you). also 'judas Priest, Judas Priest, you fun my wife'?

hora: "Yippy-kayay mother funker"

Actually if there was a lot of swearing on this forum then it would probably get blocked as offensive by a lot of workplace firewalls, so a swear filter may be a good thing!

Mark, I agree with you, even if nobody else does!

What's the view on the deliberately misspelled stuff, whilst we're here?

The problem with swearing is that as we all know things can get a little heated on here somethimes, thats when swearing becomes a problem - individuals start naming calling and it could get nasty. Personally I'd rather that wasn't an option.

I happened to notice only a couple of days ago that the 5 top-of-the-page posts had a high quantity of yikes's in them, so it just goes to show that it either gets heated a lot on here or people cant be trusted.

Thanks for taking the time to respond, Mark.

I totally agree with moderate filtering of rude words. There's no need for certain language on here; as you say, we're not in a pub with our mates. There may be those who simply don't want to read profane expressions. And those people should be respected as well as everyone else. In real life, I can be incredibly foul mouthed, but I can also temper my language according to the situation. And this is not the place for such language.

There has to be a balance, and it can be tricky deciding where to draw the line. Hence the reason for this thread. Things just suddenly seemed very restrictive!

I think the balance is right, on here.

An incident happened last month...

(Hangs head in shame) I'm still very nervous, every time I link to an image off tinternet. I felt terrible about that. Din't have a clue it had happened, though! I'd put a pic on my own Fotopic account, if I was in anyway unsure, from now on.

What's the view on the deliberately misspelled stuff, whilst we're here?

What, like does not in any way, hazzunt, shoon't, coon't, woodunt, etc?

That's just rong, is not it?

No you pillock! Not those....

Sheesh, some people....

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RB - dyk3 is to lesbians what the "N" word is to black people - they apparently can use it themselves but we cant.

I wasn't actually aware of that, thanks. I thought it was acceptable. There you go- always something to be learned.

Met a group called 'Dykes on Bikes', once. They seemed to be very proud of their title. Can be a bit confusing, sometimes, figuring out what is acceptable or not.

Rule 5 Peterpoddy explains it.

If we think a user is misspelling a word that would otherwise be picked up by the filter deliberately then we will consider that swear filter evasion.

Can we add "dijical" to the swear filter? 🙂

Oh and as a recent thread pointed out:
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Personally I don't think any swearing should be allowed, and "disguised" swear words should earn an instant ban. If you can't put your views accross without swearing then I pity you. There are plenty of words in English without having to resort to swearing, so why make your online persona appear to be a complete fool?

[i]They seemed to be very proud of their title. Can be a bit confusing, sometimes, figuring out what is acceptable or not. [/i]

But its about inclusion and exclusion for racist/homophobic/etc words though.

Where did the humour go?

Where did the humour go?

Credit crunch.

credit crunch. Can I have milk on that?

That's fairy nuff then Mark.....
Which is why I was very careful when I posted on this thread!
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Sorry, no milk. Credit Crunch. 🙂

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Personally I don't think any swearing should be allowed, and "disguised" swear words should earn an instant ban. If you can't put your views accross without swearing then I pity you. There are plenty of words in English without having to resort to swearing, so why make your online persona appear to be a complete fool?

Granted, but then, how is 'swearing' defined? Just words that are deliberately used to cause offence, or does it include words used in a non-offensive manner, but which some people find offensive? And is there a consensus on what is, or isn't, offensive?

As I said earlier, something like 'I fell off my bike and landed on my arse', is that offensive? Personally, I'd say no. The word 'arse' is in the English dictionary, and has been there since it's inception! And, I would be using it in the correct context. The 'c' word is as well, I am aware, but that is never really used in anything other than an offensive context, hence it should rightly be banned.

And what if someone wanted genuine advice on a delicate mater? EG; Substituting the word 'penis' with 'willy', would be a bit far, don't you think? Surely better to use the 'correct' term? Surely adults can use the correct word, without resorting to childish giggling!

Even racist/homophobic terms, if used in the context of discussing racism or homophobia, should be allowed. Correct use of language, in the correct context, is surely not a problem?

And I believe young black gentlemen may refer to each other as "niggaz" or some such. But it would still earn me a punch in the face if I did it!

About half the time?

Personally I think it's a bit pathetic that you're not allowed to swear, it's aimed at adults but kids can read it too - big deal. Most kids are more potty mouthed than many of the people on here. But y'know it's not my forum.

Anyway, if you need to recharge your swear glands here is every single swear word from every single epsiode of The Sopranos

{Link removed - Mod}

Certainly the best thing would be constant vigilance. The "report this post" function does this, if enough people don't like certain words that have not been banned they can be added to the list of swearwords. Obviously within reason but it should work fine.

Is the banning of people who disguise their swear words done on a regular basis? As I read those disguised words quite often!!

About half the time?

Like everything Rob, we need to be made aware of any rule breaking. There's been over a hundred thousand posts last month and we can't read them all. As has always been the case, don't assume that because a rule infringement remains posted that we have approved it.

Just to add some positivity - I agree with and support the mods, well done lads 🙂

Is it wrong to type ****ing tho? I initially only starred out the vowel in my rant the other day but I edited it cos I felt a bit ashamed.

There's been over a hundred thousand posts last month and we can't read them all.

I can. Don't tell my employers tho.

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"Suck my duck".

"Kiss my knee muddy funster".

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[i]kids are more potty mouthed[/i]

Well Bimbler I can tell you that my 11 year old son is not 'potty mouthed' and he often sits beside me when I read posts on here in the evening. Obvioulsy I wouldn't click on this post when he was there as I would expect swearing on this post. But I prefer swearing to be filtered out sensibly.

Certainly the best thing would be constant vigilance. The "report this post" function does this, if enough people don't like certain words that have not been banned they can be added to the list of swearwords. Obviously within reason but it should work fine.

Is the banning of people who disguise their swear words done on a regular basis? As I read those disguised words quite often!!

...STILL waiting for the blackadder lines....