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Stumpjumper £300 price increase
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teamhurtmoreFree Member
Blimey wee nippy has you’se lot round her grubby litte fingers doesn’t she?
martymacFull MemberNo she does not, i seem to recall a few years ago, when there was a referendum, her and big eck took a right humping.
Hasnae stopped her going on about another one though.badnewzFree MemberHello, manufacturer and exporter here. Yes, there’s perhaps a small bump to export sales, but much UK manufacturing is higher-end goods where price is less of an incentive to purchase. I don’t think I’ve got any more overseas sales from the fall in Sterling, at most a few customers have perhaps ordered a slightly more expensive version of what they’d be ordering anyway.
However, lots of the component parts and materials I use are imported, and costs of them have gone up – Rohloff hubs, Shimano parts, even steel tubing. So prices have to go up for everyone, and it’s worse especially for customers in the UK.
And, as Mr Shand up there says, Brexit hasn’t even happened yet. At the moment we’re only dealing with the fall in Sterling – once you add in the cluster**** that falling back on WTO rules will cause, with tariffs, varying standards etc it’s going to be even worse.
If it’s such a disaster how come manufacturing data has been so strong post-Brexit vote?
Tariffs is an issue but WTO rules are fine to fall back on whilst we negotiate good deals with European countries. The EU is falling apart, with or without Brexit, so it is better to be ahead of the curve.mikewsmithFree Memberbut WTO rules are fine to fall back on whilst we negotiate good deals with European countries.
10-15 years of them?
The deal will never be better than the one we have.anyway leave it for the Brexit thread
chestrockwellFull MemberAt this rate, Oranges should be reasonably priced in a couple of years.
Their prices went up a bit the other week. Perhaps not as much as others though.
Good news is that having looked around at hardtails the P7 and Crush seem to offer very similar value to comparable bikes.
Bad news, the price increase has pushed both past my £1500 c2w limit. 😐
PJM1974Free MemberIf this were posted on STW social media, the usual suspects would be screaming “keep politics off STW!”.
The pound has plunged relative to the USD since June 2016, which means that imported stuff is more expensive to buy. This happened before, back in early 2009 off the back of the Banking Crisis.
Remember that even UK manufactured goods require raw materials bought from overseas markets, so cheaper exports are partially offset by increased purchasing costs.
We are certainly living in interesting times, who’d like to predict where the USD will be in twelve months relative to the pound?
brFree MemberWe are not currently seeking the WTO option. [/I]
No, we’re after the RWB option.
RWB – red, white & blue 🙂
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/dec/06/theresa-may-calls-for-red-white-and-blue-brexit
tpbikerFree MemberOP, if you voted remain in July then I have utmost sympathy for you…
If not, then what is it they say about chickens coming home to roost?
kimbersFull MemberIf it’s such a disaster how come manufacturing data has been so strong post-Brexit vote?
Coz the low pound has increased our competitiveness, less so as more expensive imported raw materials feed. On to the supply chain
Also consumer spending (bouyed by cheap credit) has been very strong, surprising everyone.
https://www.ft.com/content/007354be-fe65-11e6-8d8e-a5e3738f9ae4
The growth in manufacturing has been spread across Europe. The eurozone PMI, released alongside the UK data, found that the manufacturing industry in the currency bloc grew at the fastest rate since 2011.
Also
tomhowardFull Member*reported for thread duplication*
You’ve got a brexit thread, let’s keep it in there.
wilburtFree MemberWhy this is a distinct subject, just don’t click if you don’t like it.
tomhowardFull MemberAt best it’s been massively derailed then. I clicked to read about Specializeds and to offer advice for would be buyers, rather than the why’s and wherefores of the potential imapct of various types of brexits
How silly of me, given the title…
woody74Full MemberImporter and manufacturer here as well and the collapse of sterling has been nightmare. Certainly haven’t seen an increase in overseas orders and we ship about 80% overseas. Costs from all the products made in the far east has gone through the roof. The ironic things is that all the idiots that voted for us to leave are the ones that are going to be most effected. There is no way that large retailers and manufacturers can just absorb the extra costs and unless the exchange rate changes massively they will have to pass them on and it looks like there will have to be a wholesale repricing of products across the board.
maujaFree MemberI think it’s kind of pointless speculating on our post Brexit future at the moment especially with the increasing rise of populist politics across other European countries making the likelihood of another political upset over the next few years seem more than possible.
Whatever happens the price of Specialized bikes is probably going to be a long way down on my list of concerns though.
pictonroadFull MemberSpesh bikes seem way more expensive than just a few months ago.
cookeaaFull MemberIn vaguely related news today, GM are having a fire sale.
And a similar issue reared it’s head over how a spun off, post brexit vauxhall are going to cope with their supply chain (and exportung), once living outside of the EU, when their competing PSA sister plants are in mainland Europe…
Lots of vaguely positive noises from PSA/tories but clearly no certainty as the current situation doesn’t really allow any TBH…
Bringing it back to bicycles, do we really think brexit will help companies like Orange/Cotic/Curtis/etc to compete both here and overseas?
limburgerFree MemberIn a few years, UK mountain bikes will be like Cuban cars. We’ll be fighting to get our hands on rusty 26 inch frames, and we’ll learn to make our own suspension from bed springs and pig iron. Unless the potato harvest fails, of course, in which case we’ll all be dead.
mikewsmithFree MemberBringing it back to bicycles, do we really think brexit will help companies like Orange/Cotic/Curtis/etc to compete both here and overseas?
Unless raw the UK is kicking out a lot of raw materieals and finds a lot more oil no.
shootermanFull MemberSurely there has to come a point where the market can’t sustain bike price rises?
If people just can’t or won’t buy bikes at exorbitant prices manufacturers and retailers will have to adjust their pricing?
benpinnickFull MemberBringing it back to bicycles, do we really think brexit will help companies like Orange/Cotic/Curtis/etc to compete both here and overseas?
No. Brexit will be a negative for most UK bike manufacturers as a whole I would say, unless they are able to fully diversify into overseas territories, but then they may as well up and leave.
OK so we’re cheaper overseas right now, since Brexit we’ve seen a modest increase in overseas sales, but then we’ve not jacked our prices by 15% or so as would be needed to maintain a pre-brexit margin. Thats being phased in slowly, and when it does, we’ll be back to square 1 but with annoying paperwork, import duties etc. Its not just the initial sale, but the various local rules on supply, getting bits back for warranty etc. Its all a total ball ache outside the EU, and soon inside the EU too.
The only winners as far as I can see from Brexit are the large multi-nationals that are enjoying repatriating all the money for their wealthy owners at a much better rate. Can’t really see an upside for small – medium businesses, manufacturing (in the long term) or anyone else to be honest. For your average Joe on the street Brexiting seems like its likely to be a pretty bad deal to me. We’re going to be living with significantly increased costs but without salaries increasing to balance it out.
zer0coolFree MemberYou could be right there Limburger, Mad Max style bikes.
This post was just an observation about a fair price hike I noticed had been snuck in about a bike on a bike forum, way too many of people getting upset about Brexit still. Get out and have a ridelimburger – Member
In a few years, UK mountain bikes will be like Cuban cars. We’ll be fighting to get our hands on rusty 26 inch frames, and we’ll learn to make our own suspension from bed springs and pig iron. Unless the potato harvest fails, of course, in which case we’ll all be dead.
nosediveFree MemberHave whyte just put prices up as well? Im sure the base g160 was £2500 last week. Bikes are going up in price faster than I am saving up to buy one
ratherbeintobagoFull MemberBringing it back to bicycles, do we really think brexit will help companies like Orange/Cotic/Curtis/etc to compete both here and overseas?
What’s the annual production for those? I think I read somewhere that Orange do about 1000 FS frames a year.
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