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  • phil5556
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    I’m about to (I think) start building up a frame that ideally would be best with a 130+mm fork but for now I’m going to be using a 120mm travel.

    Is there such thing as a spacer that will sit under the crown race to effectively increase the axle to crown length? It’s a 1? straight steerer.

    Cheers

    scotroutes
    Full Member

    Fit a larger wheel?

    I’d not be happy fitting a spacer there.

    phil5556
    Full Member

    Eventually plan is to go from 26 to 27.5 and therefore a new shock.

    But for now wondering if there was another way to do it.

    I’ve found this, but not in 56mm :/

    http://enduroforkseals.com/id338.html

    mattsccm
    Free Member

    Many years ago I swapped forks in an enduro bike. Had a “top hat” spacer/race made. The narrow bit was pressed into the frame where the bearing should have been. The wider bit was thus below the frame and held the bearing. In this case it was a much bigger bearing as well. Easy to make on a lathe.

    phil5556
    Full Member

    Mattscm that sounds like what I want, was hoping someone made one.

    I’ll have to build it up without and see how it is.

    csb
    Free Member

    Why wouldn’t you just stick spacers under the stem? Your plan wouldn’t slacken the angles that much would it?

    trail_rat
    Free Member

    on one used to make a +5 smoothie

    specialised used to do it on their tricross range

    more common than you would think.

    how ever – sticking a spacer in it is not…. the over size taper area on the fork for the crown race is not that tall …. specific crownraces exist for a reason. you may never get the play out your headset if you just launch a spacer in there

    phil5556
    Full Member

    Csb – because that won’t change the head angle, it’ll just raise the bars.

    singlespeedstu
    Full Member

    Cane Creek also do a +5 lower headset.
    Chris King do a +5 crown race.

    chiefgrooveguru
    Full Member

    You can sometimes change the lower headset cup. I did this using a Cane Creek angleset – EC56 replacing ZS56.

    lazlowoodbine
    Free Member

    My first thought is a lower headset cup with a really deep bit-that-goes-into-the-headtube and use a spacer to hold the whole cup out from the frame a little.

    EDIT: Assuming it’s an external headset.

    davewalsh
    Free Member

    What frame is it?

    nixie
    Full Member

    Someone was selling a +5 headset on here a few weeks ago.

    andyl
    Free Member

    Pretty the only thing you can do is have a custom headset crown race that raises the front. Anything else is a bodge too far.

    10mm is not a lot. Just use a spacer to raise your bars. Fork A to C lengths vary by as much as 10mm. Just adjust your sag a little or switch to a larger diameter tyre if you are really bothered but I really wouldn’t stress over it.

    Stevet1
    Full Member

    Someone was selling a +5 headset on here a few weeks ago.

    yeah that was me probably. Still got it if you’re interested.
    http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/cane-creek-s3-plus-5-headset-1

    kayla1
    Free Member

    It’s 10mm, just pump the forks up a bit.

    bigyinn
    Free Member

    Rather than cocking about with spacers etc, why not build it up as it is and ride it first?
    You’ll probably find its fine.

    Stevet1
    Full Member

    You’ll probably find its fine.

    I reckon it’ll be about 5mm too low…

    plyphon
    Free Member

    Aye, too much focusing on numbers.

    Truth is there are so many factors you never truly know what angle you’re running anyway.

    Stick a smaller tyre on the rear or a bigger on the front will achieve the same result.

    frogstomp
    Full Member

    Don’t know if it’s the size you need, but Production Privee do such a spacer for their Shan GT for swapping between 29″ and 27.5″ wheels.

    phil5556
    Full Member

    Cheers all, seems like there’s not an easy off the shelf solution.

    It’s the cheap Brand X HT-01 that CRC sell. My plan was to steal parts from my old and too small Genesis Latitude and build it at first as a 26er – hence my concern that it’s going to be too low with a 120mm 26 fork in it.

    It’s mainly to keep me entertained in the garage over the winter.

    Ultimately it will get rebuilt as it should be with a new fork and 27.5 as and when cheap bits can be found.

    phil5556
    Full Member

    frogstomp – Member
    Don’t know if it’s the size you need, but Production Privee do such a spacer for their Shan GT for swapping between 29″ and 27.5″ wheels.

    That is exactly what I’m looking for… but I don’t think it’s the right size 😥

    It’s a 1 1/8 steerer at the moment with a 56mm headset.

    phil5556
    Full Member

    Yep, I think that’s it cheers.

    So fit that in the bottom of the 56 tube and then send back my 56 headset and get something like this to fit in the extender https://www.evanscycles.com/cane-creek-40-series-is52-bottom-headset-EV144439

    phil5556
    Full Member

    Or just an EC56? https://www.uberbikecomponents.com/view-product/Uberbike-1-18-to-15-Tapered-Headset-Ceramic-Bearings-Red

    Not very common it seems and they don’t list the bottom stack height, but it must be 10mm+ ??

    andyl
    Free Member

    do you have a zero stack semi-integrated type at the moment?

    jairaj
    Full Member

    What forks are they? You may be able to extend the travel without too much bother / cost.

    daver27
    Free Member

    How about this? Novyparts.com

    bigyinn
    Free Member

    Just.
    Build.
    It.
    First.

    phil5556
    Full Member

    andyl – Member
    do you have a zero stack semi-integrated type at the moment?

    Nope, I don’t have anything yet. Frame is still in the post.

    bigyinn – Member
    Just.
    Build.
    It.
    First.

    I don’t even have it yet and needed to buy a headset so wanted to get the right one.

    I’ve gone for that uberbike EC56 and will just build it with that. 😀
    And then faff about with changing anything if I need to.

    Northwind
    Full Member

    I put a +10mm Hope headset in one bike, worked exactly how you’d expect. And the angleset I have in now is +10 as well now I think of it.

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