So, who's going to be the new Labour leader?

I can only presume it’s because he’s being rude about his own brother

You definitely dont want to hear me talk about mine if you think that was rude
I thought he was fairly positive about his brother and tried to criticise the party rather than him directly

It seems like the more of the same negative stuff from the tories and the RW press such as Red, ed, his dads a traitor, he stabbed his own brother in the back etc than anything tangible from either Milliband

For public family feuds its as mild and as civilised as it gets in general never mind politics.

Ed and the Unions went against the membership and the MPs

That’s the sort of nonsense that Richard Littlejohn makes a very comfortable living spouting.

If you are referring to the last leadership election the combined votes of individual members and MPs outnumbered the affiliated trade union votes 2 to 1.

Dan Jarvis has no leadership charisma

Should be a perfect choice then.

Anyway, I thought it was Yvette’s go next.

Anyone watching Newsnight? I quite like this woman, Liz Kendall. She’s being asked some deliberately nasty questions that she is obliged to evade, of course, but her style is pretty assertive and challenging in return. A bit of practice she’ll be pretty convincing I think.

Yup saw that. She had me until like all those who came before, she refused to defend the right of workers to organise and take collective action in defence of their livelihoods.

Not read the thread but has anyone pointed out yet that Chuka Umuna likes jungle/dnb and one of his favourite tunes is Burial by Leviticus?

Ed was certainly the wrong choice. But not because he’s left leaning; because he wasn’t very good.

+lots

jambalaya – Member

Seems perfectly reasonable for David to point out that in his view a more centerist / Blair-ite Labour party would have done better.

Yup, nothing wrong with having an opinion on this, it’s all the people stating it as fact that need to sort themselves out 😉

After my stratospheric success at Ladbrokes last week, I’ve had a wild punt on Yvette at 5/1. She may be Missus Balls, but even the Labour NEC/Unions/party proles wont be so daft as to select the unelectable Andy “save the NHS, again” Burnham. Will they?

They’re not deciding anything until September. My guess is that the eventual Great Leader will not emerge until later and will be none of the current greasy pole climbers on offer.

Not Chuka.

Why the change of heart, I wonder.

I think all the current bunch have jumped way too early, including Mr Jermyn Street. Being backed by The Prince of Darkness won’t help him now, Mandelson is yesterday’s influence.

Turns out he doesn’t like the added scrutiny.

So, either one of the Sunday papers has some massive dirt, or they now know that any added scrutiny would uncover some.

Not a clever statement.

No sooner said, than…

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32748106

That’s a good thing for the Labour Party. Imagine him trying to stand up to the “pressure” that leadership brings.

one of the Sunday papers has some massive dirt

This is the reason apparently

Perhaps he’s got a proper job offer in the private sector! Why would he want to lead the Labour Party. He could go and work for the prince of darkness

The rest of his statement makes perfect sense… Thing is, if he does fear for some dark secret being revealed, there’s no point in staying in high level politics, it’ll be dropped on him sooner or later, if he takes a cabinet post in the next labour government or whatever. So it’ll probably be possible to judge that…

Shame though, I was looking forward to the inevitable UKIP jokes about his name.

wonder what it could be?
affair? not a problem for most politicians, next tory leader Boris for example

drugs? not been a problem for osborne

tax dodging- the whole bally lot of em do that

im not exactly sure what is taboo for politicians these days

Id not relish the job myself- Ed had the murdoch and the rest of the rightwing press saying a lot of very nasty things about him and his family for the last 5 years, the daily mail ran an entire feature on how shit his kitchen was!

Maybe someones dug up some pictures of him with Jimmy Saville?

It could genuinely be what he says – I expect that the shock of his family, etc suddenly being followed, friends being called and asked for gossip on him and so on may have made him question his priorities.

Quite possibly not of course but if there is some scandal then he’s hugely naive to have put himself forward thinking it wouldn’t come out.

He looks a bit of a shagger. I reckon shagging

the rightwing press saying a lot of very nasty things about him and his family

Horrible wasn’t it

I’m all at a loss now, first I thought Dan Jarvis, then he dropped out, then I was convinced it’d be Chuka, now he’s dropped out. I think I’m backing Liz Kendall from now on (Until she drops out).

They’ll end up with Yyvette Cooper, and then the bottom will really fall out of Labour’s remaining middle-england support.

drugs? not been a problem for osborne

Seeing as he apparently loves jungle there may be pictures of him off his tits at raves etc? But as you say hasn’t been a problem for Osbourne and I think Cameron has been coy about it too.

Shame though, I was looking forward to the inevitable UKIP jokes about his name.

😀

then the bottom will really fall out of Labour’s remaining middle-england support

F*** middle england

Fingers crossed for Liz Kendall. I snogged her at a party in about 1988 and she was nice.

Not Chuka.

Why the change of heart, I wonder.

Internal politics. I bet he was told if you stand against X you’ll get no support from us. X being who I wonder.

You know I think they missed a trick there to get them back in.

F*** middle england

No thanks, I’m a bit picky.

Kier Starmer could be a very, very good move!

I think Chuka has his eyes set on the London Mayor job – should be an interesting contest between him and Kahn!

I think Chuka has his eyes set on the London Mayor job – should be an interesting contest between him and Kahn!

Headline writers hoping for that as well!

Keir Starmer? Blimey. This’d be interesting.

However this being Labour theyll go with someone watered down.

Abit like a automotive etc concept car and then the mass euro box that is design by committee approved

F*** middle england

😆
You are Ed Milliband and I claim my five pounds.

Yvette cooper odds have just come in from 5/1 to 2/1 at paddy power 😀

ninfan – Member
Blair was the beginning of the end for Labour in Scotland.
Really?

’87 – 50 seats
’92 – 49
’97 – 56
’01 – 56
’05 – 41
’10 – 41

tbh that doesn’t tell the whole picture, in the 00s Scotland was still in the throws of must vote labour to keep the tories out, so the results are skewed there. it wasn’t until recently that the SNP have been viewed as a Westminister alternative(not even until post referendum).

So ultimately it’s a new dynamic. That it change so quickly, shows you that people have been disguntled with labour for a long time in Scotland.

btw the fact that a tory government got in regardless, I reckon will ensure Labour claws back some seats next time too, regardless of what they do. the fear of a Tory government is that strong.

Andy Burnham will be the next leader of the Labour Party.

He just needs to flutter those big beautiful eyelashes.

Stoner’s on a Roll! (seemingly!)

Andy Burnham will be the next leader of the Labour Party.

11/10 at Ladbrokes.

Hora, you’re right, they’ll water it down, very little chance of them doing anything bold.

But, like you say, Kier Starmer would be bloody interesting as a leader!

Do you know what Stoner I had never noticed the resemblance before.

You can imagine the effect he’ll have on Labour voters

Chuka has thrown in the towel.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32748106