[Closed] So very very good, yet so cheap!!

where from?

Crane = Aldi

what he /\ said

shhhh dont tell everyone

how much?

Buy employing cheap labour working in appalling conditions for a pittance of a wage?

£4.99

Is it Aldi sock day already? Or did you buy these a while ago?

Buy

By

cha****ng - lighten up a bit laddie. Are you an Aldi branch manager or something?

I was too slow the last time they had these in and they only had small and medium left, I need large. 🙁

The current 2 year old pair will have to soldier on a bit longer...

Sorry that was uncalled for.

Do you have any inside info on the labour practices of their suppliers though?

I'd really like to see a law requiring certification of working standards for goods to be sold within the EU. Well, it'd be good to see that worldwide, but ut's the sort of legislation Europe could realistically achieve.

In the meantime it irks me a bit that most people only question the labour practices of cheap retailers.

I've got a couple of pairs, tbh I find them to be reasonable value for money but no more than that.

scotroutes - Member

Buy employing cheap labour working in appalling conditions for a pittance of a wage?

Course, all those £40 mtb gloves are made by artisan glovemakers in beautiful rustic environs.

Obviously. Probably supplied with real coffee and lovely bread on their extensive, and frequent, breaks.

I bought a pair for each of my kids and was so impressed with them I bought a pair for myself.

who gives a freck how much the folk who make em get paid.
all i care is that they are cheap and very warm........ 🙂

Agreed, for the money i'd suggest you can't get better.

Of course the advantage of these being made by children in sweatshops is...
Their eyes are still good so they can see to stitch properly and they get beaten if they do a bad job, so you know the quality will be top! 😉

Cheap products in not all economies are equal shocker.

rip off design, non licensed materials, zero warranty, slave labour

it's easy really

ton - Member
who gives a freck how much the folk who make em get paid.
all i care is that they are cheap and very warm........

Given that it's pretty mild outside, that's not really much to write home about

it's easy really

Warm as well.

[i]rip off design, non licensed materials, zero warranty, slave labour
it's easy really[/i]

Which design have they ripped off? I have lots of winter gloves, some from niche ethically sourced glove makers, none are as warm as the aldi one.

Let me know so I can buy a pair and continue to sleep soundly.

@Garm_M it's just one of the ways of making things cheaper, skip key/expensive parts of the process like design, paying for some of the materials, maybe checking the lining is actually approved for use in gloves/with people but I suppose it's fine. I hope everyone here is ready for an economy based on producing cheap rip offs 🙂

So you're saying Aldi make rip off products but don't know what design they have ripped off?

Gary_M - Member
So you're saying Aldi make rip off products but don't know what design they have ripped off?

If the makers of the gloves were convinced they had a perfect glove that was a market beater why are they selling them cheap in aldi when they could command 10x the price? I'm guessing they are just nice people.

I suppose it's fine. I hope everyone here is ready for an economy based on producing cheap rip offs

I think Mike works for a glove manufacturer.

....and Android at weekends 8)

i thought they sold the stuff in the middle at cost/loss leader to get people in the store, who then become regular customers. worked on my mates dad, he went in for some golf stuff and ended up switching from m+s to aldi for his weekly shop.
tbh its often the high priced stuff that is sweatshop made. think nike, apple etc

Jamie - Member
I suppose it's fine. I hope everyone here is ready for an economy based on producing cheap rip offs
I think Mike works for a glove manufacturer.

....and Android at weekends

Cheers Jamie, I actually work for Aldi and Apple 🙂

Cheers Jamie, I actually work for Aldi and Apple

I bloody knew it! No-one dislikes Apple 8)

but seriously having a bit to do with IP and the like (selling software & training) and bike shops (mate runs one and I was working there today) there is a lot that is taking the piss these days, the great deals for consumers are great how long it lasts is another matter.

seriously fella's, how the freck can a post about cheap gloves turn into a argument? ffs really.. 🙄

So because they sell low cost items they must be rip offs, badly made and made by ickle children?

Or do they just sell stuff for what its worth?

Do you think £40 gloves are any better or any more ethical?

edit: more discussion than argument.

Given that it's pretty mild outside, that's not really much to write home about

ton - Member
seriously fella's, how the freck can a post about cheap gloves turn into a argument? ffs really..

how do thet do it??

The new design isn't as good, I found the pads on the palm uncomfortable. The old ones I have, which are falling to pieces from two years use are ace!

If the makers of the gloves were convinced they had a perfect glove that was a market beater why are they selling them cheap in aldi when they could command 10x the price?

There is certainly a lot of piss taking mike - just look at the prices of MTB gloves in most LBS.

Aldi and LIDL etc are filling an important place in the market and good luck to them. I had a pair of last years winter gloves. Pretty good but usual problems of fingers coming out when you take them off. Might have a look at their stuff tomorrow. Difficult balance IMO between cheap and only ok/poor (ie bad value) or cheap and good (ie good value). But they have great deals on Kendal Mint Cake from time to time?

Let's not discount the fact, that some people just buy into that reassuringly expensive way of thinking.

Jamie - Member
Let's not discount the fact, that some people do buy into that reassuringly expensive way of thinking.

i budgeted £10.99 for my winter gloves this year.
gonna spend my £6 change on some nice juicy battery reared fried chicken, for my lunch....... 8)

I bought some last year, best winter gloves I have had so far.
Like 'Ton' not really mithered about the ethics just want some gloves to keep my hands warm that don't break the bank.

I refuse to buy them, I'd much rather spend £35-40 on something thats not as good VFM & is made by happy people in a nice workplace & paid a reasonable wage.

Some folk just love a good scrap Ton.
Was only a matter of time before the gloves came off. 😉

Ton, would you like a set of these?
It's just unbelievable where an argument can come from...[img] [/img]

one thing I would love to add to this,
can anyone name a me a cycling clothing company, who does NOT get their clobber made in the far east.

[i]Some[/i] of the Endura stuff is made in the sweatshops of Livingston.
Gore have factories all over Europe.

where is the rest made?

Livingston.

My god, I wouldn't wish that on anyone 😯

SMS Santini...

Do you have any inside info on the labour practices of their suppliers though?
I'd really like to see a law requiring certification of working standards for goods to be sold within the EU. Well, it'd be good to see that worldwide, but ut's the sort of legislation Europe could realistically achieve.
In the meantime it irks me a bit that most people only question the labour practices of cheap retailers.

You need to look at how the manufacture and supply distribution chain work, each person in the chain doubles the price, take them out and it cuts the cost massively and gives the retailer a greater margin, simples!

Tesco don't make Tesco beans neither incase you were wondering

can anyone name a me a cycling clothing company, who does NOT get their clobber made in the far east.

Just so you know. The 'far east' is a big place with lots of different countries in it. Some of them are different to some of the others.

oy smartarse.....even I know that.
what I was implying was that most, if not every, clothing company get's their stuff from somewhere in the far east.

so lidl/aldi are no worse than anyone else are they?

They look crap

NO NO NO!! I have the older "biker" gloves and they're perfect cheap warm dry and lasting for years. These ones are rubbish in comparison. They get sweaty and the lining doesn't dry out. I have to put them under the hand drier a couple of times throughout the day before I ride home. Then the palms have developed creases after a couple of weeks use. The velcro cuff is too fat to fit under the sleeve and the not gauntlet enough to fit over the sleeve leaving a cold wet gap at the wrist. These things are more detailed and must have cost more to make but are worse. Aldi sort this out.

Personally I prefer the Lidl ones.

By far the best winter gloves I have ever used. Too warm for them at the minute though...

so lidl/aldi are no worse than anyone else are they?

They might be - depends whether they have a transparent supply chain and know that the factories making their stuff don't use child labour etc.

The overall very low cost can indicate lax morals. You stating you didn't care as long as you got cheap stuff can indicate not understanding the difference between cost of things and value of things. IMHO of course.

Completely unethical. They've totally ripped off the design of 'gloves' - they're exactly the same FFS!

Not really sure why folk recommend ALDI or LIDL gear when it's generally only on sale one day each year. Or are hey selling these tomorrow?
No matter how warm these gloves are they look rubbish for mountain biking.

scotroutes - Member

Some of the Endura stuff is made in the sweatshops of Livingston.

Is that the stuff that falls apart the first time you wear it?

Echo the couple of comments stating they look crap. In fact, they look like something you'd buy from a petrol station, or Aldi

campkoala - Member
No matter how warm these gloves are they look rubbish for mountain biking.

Never seen a full winter glove that looks even close to suitable for off-road, unless mincing massively

Abductee - totally agree. Why do manufacturers think we need a Velcro wrist strap on winter gloves! Totally unnecessary imo.

Never seen a full winter glove that looks even close to suitable for off-road, unless mincing massively

Well that's a new excuse for mincing I've not heard before - 'sorry I'm going so slowly but the design of my gloves isn't even close to suitable for off-road'. 😕

Are these in Aldi now?

Are these in Aldi now?

dont know, but i am currently sat on mine, keeping my cheeks warm in a cold warehouse.
freck me, they are dual purpose too...........awsome 8)

they look like something you'd buy from a petrol station, or Aldi

😀

Most stuff is made in China and the difference is mark up and overheads.

Aldi don't mark up much and their business model is very efficient and leads to low overheads.

I'd gues many of the gloves from established biking brands are made in the same or similar factories as the Aldi ones.

I've got a pair and they are way to warm for the mild weather we've got at the moment, but if it gets proper chilly then they will be coming out.

TooTall
Just so you know. The 'far east' is a big place with lots of different countries in it. Some of them are different to some of the others.

ton
oy smartarse.....even I know that.

So if I make a rectangular object with a touch screen that makes phone calls for £50 apple should leave me alone?

Never seen a full winter glove that looks even close to suitable for off-road, unless mincing massively

Sub zero doesn't even require gloves, minus 15 mibbie a thin pair of Troy lees.

rip off design,

non licensed materials,

zero warranty,

slave labour

PS - great psa - Will buy 2 pairs this weekend if they haven't been gobbled up already.

Working conditions in Aldi's suppliers in China and Indonesia:

Suggestions for consumer and trade union action, August 2007

The largest German and European discounter, Aldi, is selling its clothing bargains at a high price: in its study, the SÜDWIND Institute provides evidence of unprecedented violations of labour laws in Chinese and Indonesian factories which supply Aldi. Almost completely unnoticed in the public domain, discounters have taken over the top positions in Germany's textile and clothing retailing in recent years. Part of the basic concept of discounters is the drastic savings in personnel costs - both in German branches and in supplier factories throughout the world.

The 96 page study ends with a number of suggestions for consumer and trade unions action.

campkoala - Member
Sub zero doesn't even require gloves, minus 15 mibbie a thin pair of Troy lees.

*swoon* this is why we keep you 😉

Has anyone seen pussywillow lately?

Campkoala speaks the truth about the gloves. But the onesie and Davie Crocket hat he wears lessens the effect.

Just on a slight side note, the company I used to work for supplied products to Aldi, using the exact same machines and materials, they would sell the exact same to Marks and Spencers. M&S would charge nearly 5 times the cost Aldi was.
But the product was EXACTLY the same...
PS: The company did not endorse child labour, nor was it a "sweat shop". Decent company actually with above average salary.

Working conditions in Aldi's suppliers in China and Indonesia:

I've just bought some. For £4.98 they seem bloody brilliant! I've never had winter/waterproof gloves so the inner liner is a bit strange. But they seem well made and the strap does up tight, they fit my (small) hands well.