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  • morgs
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    We can’t talk…..Gavin Henson has worn a Welsh jersey……

    TandemJeremy
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    Ah – the orange one. will he play this year?

    deadlydarcy
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    a_a will explode in a big sticky mess if he does 🙂

    anagallis_arvensis
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    deadlydarcy
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    Ahhh…he looks gorgeous doesn’t he a_a? 😛

    anagallis_arvensis
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    Be interesting to see who is selected for Wales, with Shane retired I expect to see 1/2p moved back onto the wing, Roberts is currently crocked too although is due to be back. Expect we may see something like:

    Byrne/Hook/Henson
    North
    Davies
    Roberts/Williams/Henson
    1/2p
    Priestland
    Phillips
    Toby
    Warburton
    Lydiate/R Jones
    B Davies
    Ian Evans/R Jones (AWJ crocked as is Charteris)
    Adam
    Rees
    Gethin

    Henson has looked pretty good at 15 for Cardiff although intrestingly Tom James is fit again so he could be put into 12 against Reading Samoa with 1/2p going back to 15. Cuthbert will be playing for Wales soon, if you thing North is big wait till you see him!!

    anagallis_arvensis
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    Any Englandshire people care to suggest a team or a view on if Ben Morgan is likely to play a part at 8?

    wrecker
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    The Morgan thing is an interesting one. Has he stated his allegiance yet?
    I hope that Lancaster puts out a bunch of young uns and delivers on all the rumours of a wholesale clear out.
    I’m not too bothered about the results if he does, they have 4 6N years to prepare for the next RWC. As long as they show improvement over that period, that’ll do me.

    anagallis_arvensis
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    Yeah Morgan has come out in favour of England today, very good player imo.

    TandemJeremy
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    From a piece in the telegraph it looks like Lancaster will drop a few

    Cueto, Tindal, Easter to go. I really like the noises he is making.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/international/england/8990988/Mark-Cueto-will-fight-for-England-spot-after-being-shed-for-Six-Nations-by-coach-Stuart-Lancaster.html

    Care out for being a drunken effwit, tuilagi injured, lawes injured.

    talltom
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    France
    England
    Wales
    Ireland
    italy
    Scotland

    England over Wales due to one name – Owen Farrell, Lancaster’s making the right noises.

    Wales will have hangover from WC and Warbutton is losing leiutenents

    Scotland still have to learn that a game is 80mins long – not 70 and Robinson hasn’t shown them where the try line is 😉

    As a English (Yorkshire) man, I’m looking forward to the 6N more then the WC!

    Edit : annoyed about Lawes – watched him against Leeds last year – bloody ferocious!

    wrecker
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    Call me cynical, but I doubt Morgan would have made his decision without receiving a nod from someone at England so I expect to see him in the squad. Considering the England have been persisting with Easter and even playing Haskell out of position, I cannot see that England can afford to ignore talented 8s.

    Pigface
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    I hope that the idiots that run english rugby dont panic if the new look team get stuffed. I dont think they will get stuffed to be honest, I am a bit scared at the potential of england.

    Ireland will have to play with out its lucky rabbits foot in BOD, not sure they will cope.

    Wales who knows we could steam roll everything or we could be dreadful. Either way they will make me weep and scream.

    Scotland giggle ahem they will do …………guffaw.

    deadlydarcy
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    not sure they will cope.

    Well, they have to learn to cope at some stage so four years from the next RWC is as good a place to start as any.

    wrecker
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    I hope that the idiots that run english rugby dont panic if the new look team get stuffed

    Couldnt agree more. “expectation” has been the biggest obstacle in the progression of the England team for some time.

    TandemJeremy
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    One day! One day ! we will rise again

    maybe even at murreyfeild for the calcutta cup.

    anagallis_arvensis
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    Talltom who are the leutenants warburton has lost?

    anagallis_arvensis
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    Gwlad Rugby Review of the Year 2010* No 1.
    Dec 14th, 2011 by Benny

    Another 12 months have passed and as the year slowly lists over onto its side, like Leo Cullen entering a ruck, we take this opportunity to look back at all the earth shattering events that the rugby world has offered up since we were last in a similar position in relation to the Sun as we are now. The unexpected bounty brought us a Six Nations, a Heinenken cup and a thrilling win in the Welsh Premiership for the true champions Llanelli RFC (who at the end of the league stage had amassed a record 28 point margin over all their other rivals*).

    2011 has been a unique year (apart from one in every other four years since 1984) in that it has brought another Rugby World Cup. The tournament that challenges the best rugby players in the world (and Scotland) and that showcases all the Welsh regions shorn of their internationals (as they play a Connaught side that may have lost one of its TV analysts), started with a bang as the might of the Scarlets’ development region, Tonga took on the All Zealanders*.

    The undoubted star of the tournament was Quade Cooper, who headed the stats leagues for roughly half of the key measures. He single-handedly showed that it wasn’t just the All Blacks who have a monopoly of funnily named players. Fortunately for Australia they found that having a nine as the best of their hand is slightly more useful in rugby than it is in Texas Hold ‘Em. They hung around the tournament until the bitter end hoping to pick up some reward, just like a fat bird at a party. This set them aside from Wales who stayed the course for exactly the same length of time, provided amble entertainment and talking points but ultimately ended up going home empty handed. Just like a fat bloke at a party. But what were the Pringles, Campari and other left-overs from this party, to push beyond breaking point this metaphor. Or simile*.

    Allain “If I’m wrong, then my old man’s a Frenchman” Rolland provided a beacon of lite in the latter stages of the Games. Judging by the headlines in the Western Mail (“SOD OFF BACK TO BLARNEY (RO)LAND!!!”), the South Wales Evening Post (“Allain Quarterbrain!”) and the Wales of Sunday (“Roland’s Mother Once Visited Prestatyn”), reaction to the sending of off Sam Warburton was mixed. The focus to date has been on what was wrong with the tackle. Was Vincent ‘so-called’ Clerc lifted too far off the ground? Is the top of your head classed as ‘upper body’? And, why couldn’t I have a cool name like ‘Vincent’? What we should do is talk about the good aspects of the tackle. Just in the same way the police don’t pull you over for shifting down nicely into third, Allain was a consummate negative Nigel and failed to ac-sen-tuate the positive. What were the good aspects, I hear you ask? (How can I hear you, exactly? Aren’t I just typing this into a computer? Are you all in my head?) For a start, it wasn’t a high tackle. Warburton was at no point offside (which must have confused an Irish ref). And lest we forget, he didn’t trip or repeatedly kick in the balls, the Toulon Tyro*.

    We also learnt the true meaning of ‘strength in depth’ as New Zealand progressed to their one and only Webb Ellis Trophy win*. The All Blacks used up more number tens than an entire series of Strictly. They finally opted for Stephen McDonald who had just spent the previous 2 months at his uncle’s company’s nugget testing facility. At one stage they were forced to put the bloke who acted as Mr Sullivan in the 1980s series, The Sullivans, on the bench. Fans were shocked to find that this show wasn’t filmed in black and white, as they remember, but in fact was set in 1950s New Zealand, which pretty much has the same effect. [For those interested in obtaining the series on video cassette or super-8, please send a stamped addressed envelope to New Zealand Film Studios, 1 New Zealand Road, New Zealand. NZ1 001]*

    What have we learnt this year? Well, we’ve learnt that Wales aren’t quite as good as New Zealand at rugby union. We’ve learnt that Northampton Saints not only have a unique grasp of irony, but also have the keys to the factory whose production facilities provide a record number of players that look like the boy in your school who smelt of milk. Finally we’ve learnt that it will surely not be long before a Conference player finally graces the hallowed turf of Twickenham after the Barbarians picked the Widnes Rugby League side player, Johnny Northerner to turn out for them on the wing against South Africa*.

    This year, there’s been much debate about what’s the key position on the field in rugby union. After the World Cup many have stated that it’s the No.7 (the rugby players, not the make-up) that is key. This is however wrong, you stupid arseholes! The key position, as Munster, Leinster and the whole of the All Blacks pack with testify, is 2 metres offside at every, single ruck holding back defending players and generally getting in the way. Like a protagonist in US TV series Alphas (which in NO way should be confused with Heroes), lingerers hang around unseen tugging on sleeves like a cigarette desiring 11 year old outside an offy. How do the referees not see them? Are they complete incompetents? Were they all given this chance to be at the top of our sport in a long deleted episode of Jim’ll Fix it? Are they killer cyborgs sent from the future to annoy rugby fans? Or are they all from North Island? This correspondent doesn’t have an easy answer but as sure as Rabo-Direct 12 will compete with Amlin and LV for most effortlessly forgettable brand name of 2012, they’ll be back next year to cluster-fluke their way into a continued career. Hell, if they get any worse they may end up being a representative of FIFA. Or those people that look after cricket; the IOC*.

    * I haven’t done ANY research.

    TandemJeremy
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    Scotland squad
    Backs: Joe Ansbro
    Mike Blair
    Chris Cusiter
    Simon Danielli
    Nick De Luca
    Max Evans
    Stuart Hogg,
    Ruaridh Jackson
    Lee Jones,
    Greig Laidlaw
    , Rory Lamont
    , Sean Lamont
    , Rory Lawson
    , Graeme Morrison
    , Dan Parks
    Steven Shingler
    and Duncan Weir

    Forwards: John Barclay
    Kelly Brown
    Geoff Cross,
    David Denton
    Alasdair Dickinson
    Ross Ford
    Richie Gray,
    Dougie Hall
    Jim Hamilton
    Robert Harley
    , Allan Jacobsen
    Alastair Kellock
    Scott Lawson
    , Moray Low
    , Fraser McKenzie
    , Euan Murray
    , Ross Rennie
    Alasdair Strokosch
    and Richie Vernon

    OMG – he is going to play desperate dan isn’t he – wooden spoon for us if he does, The rumour is it the old hands for the Calcutta cup with possible debuts later. Squads not bad tho

    Frankers
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    Interested who’s gonna be selected as England’s 1st choice #10

    Floody has improved over last few games but am interested in seeing if Goode and Farrell get called up

    Also will Waldrom get selected for #8 as England flew him to the RWC as a stand in, good for England if he gets to play

    TandemJeremy
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    Will be interesting Frankers – Farrell would be the attacking choice I think and he has worked with lancaster before IIRC

    TandemJeremy
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    Flood is out injured is he not and unlikely to make the calcutta cup anyway if not more
    http://www1.skysports.com/rugby-union/news/12504/7411609/Fitness-fears-for-Flood

    morgs
    Free Member

    It’s all hotting up nicely!

    anagallis_arvensis
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    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/mobile/rugby_union/16419741.stm

    nice to see scotcland poaching welsh players these days.

    This made i laugh “i’ve always known about scotland”

    CaptainFlashheart
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    AA, he’s not good enough to get a game for a real team! 😉

    duckman
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    Imagine us quoting legislation that the Welsh have already used to get a player,how rude! Of course if the Welsh ran an “A” team as they are meant to do as a first tier nation, then it would not be an issue.Must have spent the funding on a tanker of fake tan and hair gel as a sweetener for the “prodigal son”
    The WRU complaining about eligibility; oh the ironing;

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shane_Howarth

    CaptainFlashheart – Member
    AA, he’s not good enough to get a game for a real team!

    Your union would disagree… 😀

    anagallis_arvensis
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    Dont worry duckman i think its great that the scots are poaching welsh players rather than the likes of brendan “chsinsaw” laney. At least hoearth could play!

    deadlydarcy
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    Your union

    Jeez duckie, don’t be confusing me. Which union is it?

    duckman
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    Jeez duckie, don’t be confusing me. Which union is it?

    Sorry I though Flasher was another Welsh supporter.

    In other news I see that English born and raised Ben Morgan has decided to play for England instead of Wales. Probably feels that he could not shift the Tongan no 8 Toby Faletau who currently is the Welsh 1st choice.

    At least hoearth could play!

    In the Welsh side of the time perhaps….We had Gavin Hastings

    I will give you Brendan Laney, he was pish.He was sold to the SRU who were awash with cash at the time on the back of a compilation dvd. When he first turned up at training it was at the same time Allan Jacobeson had been given a pro contract. According to Stuart Campbell, when Laney walked in everybody thought he was the new prop. Still most points in a 6N game IIRC.

    anagallis_arvensis
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    Toby faletau has lived in wales almost all his life and has a proper welsh accent. Only just realised its the rubbish shingler thats gone to scotland. Aaron is a better player.

    Frankers
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    TandemJeremy – Member
    Flood is out injured is he not and unlikely to make the calcutta cup anyway if not more
    http://www1.skysports.com/rugby-union/news/12504/7411609/Fitness-fears-for-Flood

    Sod the 6N i’m more upset about him being out of the game V Ulster 🙁

    deadlydarcy
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    monkey_boy
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    wales need to tell all those who have gone outside the regions to f*** off, then take all the new young shinning stars and all the other hidden gems that are lurking in the wings + henson over to poland and then wipe the floor with the opposition.

    back to the real world….i think its going to be one of the best 6 nations in a long time… hard to predict but France i reckon followed by Wales/Ireland.

    duckman
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    deadlydarcy – Member
    I hope a_a is ok.

    Posted 15 hours ago # Report-Post

    Update; A-A is fine; he will obviously struggle a wee bit health-wise as he sold his liver so he could afford the biggest get well soon card in the whole of Wales,just so Gav knows who his no1 fan really is.

    Scamper
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    Jesus, Marler FFS? What have decent scrummagers like Nick Wood done wrong? Adams Jones and Castro et al will be loving this.

    transapp
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    Agreed, How on earth has he got in!

    Still, other than that, a fairly decent mix of players. Still not too sure how the Sarecens way of playing (stifle the oppersition, kick the points*) will translate into the new Lancaster proclaimed attacking style.

    *and I’m a Tigers supporter!

    TandemJeremy
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    Seems a decent swquad to me. Given that a good few of the EPS are injured I assume some of the saxons will step up.

    Seems a decent mix of youth and experience and pragmatic without being conservative.

    duckman
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    If Marler plays there will be penalty opps galore,he can’t seem to help himself. That is potentially the weakest English scrum for a few years.As good as the back row will be, I think Marler is poor, Stevens ain’t starting for Sarries and Cole and Corbisero(?) are not the greatest either.I think Hodgson could work really well with Farrell and the punchy swimmer in the middle.

    Frankers
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    Scamper – Member

    Jesus, Marler FFS? What have decent scrummagers like Nick Wood done wrong? Adams Jones and Castro et al will be loving this.

    I rate Marler, I reckon he’ll do well for us.

    (non Quins fan BTW)

    wrecker
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    Cannot believe cat flap made the squad. I thought England were supposed to be moving forward.

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