'RIDING' no place in cross?
Someone behind me shouted ‘Riding’on a section where nearly every racer dismounted and ran.Posted 4 years ago
So whoever it was because he never passed me shouted this on the first lap. I just thought ‘you’re ****ing point is, you’re in a cross race numbskull’.
Right to think that aren’t I.
I was running, the shoutee was riding. Running is a valid and tactical part of cross. Expecting to be let through because you’ve chosen to ride is dumb.Posted 4 years ago
After lap 1 I never saw it being ridden again. In practice it was clear that such a section caused a massive peak in HR and carried with it a high risk of crashing.
aP agree with it in XC.
But in cross, riding and running are equal. Calling left or right suggests intent and the rider will come through. So that’s all fine.Posted 4 years ago
Shouting ‘riding’ suggests they want the way to be cleared as in XC.
If someone behind you shouted ‘running’ how would you take that?mtbmattMember
To be honest, I’d be pretty miffed if someone blocked my path on something I was able to ride up, CX or MTB.Posted 4 years ago
Depends very much on the circumstances though. As you said its first lap, I’d except there to be lots more traffic and perhaps less able to ride certain sections.The Swedish ChefMember
+1 for the svenness cross films for an education in tactics!
As long as you’re not lapped then within reason its far game to make yourself as wide as you can, pause at the top of hill, dismount when you like. If the person following runs into your mech then its your fault.Posted 4 years ago
I’d be pretty miffed if someone blocked my path on something I was able to ride up,
Likewise I’d be pretty miffed if someone blocked my path on something I was running up.
It’s a race, the key is to get to the ‘problem’ areas first. You make the call to run or ride. In this case it was quicker to run as I proved, so you run. Calling for the way to be cleared so you can attempt to ride it is more akin to the Sunday mates ride.
Talking of circumstances. I was accidentally left off the gridding and started right at the back, but clawed my way up to 5th to be sure to get through this bit as quickly as poss.Posted 4 years ago
Running is quicker lots of the time ,its not about who rides most of the course just who covers it quickest with a bike .Its up to the rider to pass .If he was lapping me fair enough but as Oldgit says this was the first lap that wont have been the case so he has to fight his way past as anyone else wouldPosted 4 years ago
and that’s why I hate (the idea of) racing
Think about that. If you’re racing it’s not up to you to allow the rider behind to win?
Look at F1, if you are in 1st you don’t pull over to let the others past.
That said if you get lapped by a better rider, then yes you clear the way.Posted 4 years ago
But they’ll say left/right.theotherjonvSubscriber
Not cross, but in an xc race a few years back had a similar forthright exchange of views with another rider. I was on my ss, the start was a steady fire road downhill so I was pretty well at the back by the time it turned off the fire road, over a ditch and up a short incline. Not one I was going to manage without momentum, and because of the queue of riders waiting for a go at it, I hopped off, and tramped through the undergrowth, inside the tape, and remounted at the top. One bloke took great exception shouting and cursing. Odd race where you have to stay in the same place that you occupy after the start, I thought! Then I realised that’s basically F1Posted 4 years agomrblobbySubscriber
Expecting to be let through on the first lap of the race… most amusing!
Interesting comment about the etiquette in XC being different. I’ve seen people come off and make it as difficult as possible for people to pass until they’re able to rejoin the race. If it’s for position it’s just part of the game I reckon.Posted 4 years agomick_rSubscriber
Definitely no politeness in international racing!
My Mrs did mtb worlds in 1995 (back when GB actually sent a team of riders). There were +150 women and it was like a battlefield on the first climb. She watched an Italian lady winching up the field grabbing seatposts to pull other riders off “her” line 🙂Posted 4 years agojonbaMember
It’s cross, blocking is fine. It is a race, don’t do anything dangerous but be “tactical”
I have attacked before a death spiral because I knew the guy behind was faster through it and I’d have to sprint to catch him afterwards. So I got in first and held him up.
I’ve run up stairs and walked 2 or three steps to let people past. Only when the next section was into a brutal headwind and there was no way I was going to ride on the front of a small group.
However, this is only for places around you. If you are being lapped then get off the line.
But remember when you cross the line it is over, shake hands be nice it is just a bit of fun.Posted 4 years agocrosshairMember
I think in xc racing, there’s often an intimidation factor you can bring into play by riding sections that others are pushing- it makes you seem ‘stronger’ somehow.Posted 4 years ago
However, I think you’re right Oldgit, racing is racing- if you wanna get past, be my guest but don’t shout about it 😀
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