[Closed] Ridiculous situation at the gym this morning - am I going to get sued?

Reminds me of the fake Chinese car accidents posted on YouTube. Did he have a go pro on a chest mount 🙂
Raise it with the reception as it happend on their property - you never know, the may have cameras in the changing rooms 🙂

Hmmm. Does your home insurance have a personal liability element to it?

Just watched Workaholics on Comedy Central, sounds like a scene from that! Hope they don't sue ya

Probably.

eep.

I'm worried I'm going to get sued

I can see the front page of the Sun now...

Bop! Sue-y!

More than sued, sounds like an assault. You're going dahn!!!

(tip; if someone asks you into their cubicle in chokey, it won't be your eyebrow that ends up sore)

Moral of this story: DO NOT get involved

I can see the front page of the Sun now...

Bop! Sue-y!

+1 point for being funny but -10 for being racist.

overall, -9

You're gaahn dahn me old China.

Go to the police and report him for looking through the keyhole at other men in the showers...

This is not helping my mental state everyone...

+1 point for being funny whilst pointing out that the Sun newspaper has a tendency towards being racist.

This is more what I was going for TBH. 😳

Go back and have a chat with the manager to put your mind at rest ,or get all lawyered up and launch a claim for post areobic door disorder.

Bop! Sue-y!

needs an applause emoji, lol.

This is not helping my mental state everyone...

It'll be fine. Just have a word with the manager of the gym, downgrade the firm push to a gentle prod.

I assume as it's the changing rooms there will not any cameras? So whatever he says just call him a lying little bitch.

finbar - Member

This is not helping my mental state everyone...

Did you give your name / address to the guy?

You may get sued but you have made me chuckle, so it's all square.

Moral of this story: DO NOT get involved

OP I think you did exactly the right thing by helping someone who was shouting for help!

But on the limited info available, it's possible that, in a personal injury claim, a court may find you negligent because you forced the door without checking first. Sorry man, but what did you think would happen?

In practice, despite anger in the heat of the moment, few people make personal injury claims for cuts and bruises.

Anyway, did you ever get to the bottom of why the guy was shouting for help in the first place?

Did you give your name / address to the guy?

You may get sued but you have made me chuckle, so it's all square.

And queued perchypanther up for some top punnage 😀

But on the limited info available, it's possible that, in a personal injury claim, a court may find you negligent because you forced the door without checking first. Sorry man, but what did you think would happen?

I did check - as far as possible - and the door was stuck, so I guess I expected he might stand back like I told him to...

Was he naked too? Imagine breaking down a door to cop a view of a nakid man getting changed, you perv. 😀

Oh sorry - just read - door was stuck

I thought you said he was pulling on the door at the same time, after he asked for you help in pushing the door

Sit tight my view is you'll hear nothing

Was he in the closet?

You spelled 'Hilarious' wrong at the start of the thread title

I did check - as far as possible - and the door was stuck, so I guess I expected he might stand back like I told him to...

How did you check?

[i]for being racist.[/i]

don't worry perchypanther, it was bleedin obvious what you were going for.

Another reason for not going to a gym.

Sorry perchy, my comment was tongue in cheek / a nod to the current habit of calling anything and everything something-ist.

Barney de douche?

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I gave it to the gym staff.

Why? I wouldn't have bothered. If they called the police for a suspected assault then I'd have been more inclined to give it to the police but some randoms at the gym, not a chance.

Sorry perchy, my comment was tongue in cheek / a nod to the current habit of calling anything and everything something-ist.

pantherists, the lot of ye!

*sniff* Might flounce *sob*

were you nekked while all this was going on???

finbar - Member

Did you give your name / address to the guy?

I gave it to the gym staff.

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But seriously, you'll be fine - the great likelihood is that once he's got over the shock of it, he'll realise you were only trying to help.

But say he's some criminal mastermind and it's all an elaborate set-up to sue someone or he is so incensed that this good Samaritan has wounded him by accident he wants to sue you - the burden of proof lies with him - there wouldn't be any CCTV in a shower room (you would hope) and without a criminal investigation wheres the evidence going to come from?

Fraudsters go after people with insurance and follow well trodden paths like car crashes because they want their scam to be lost in the thousands of other legitimate claims, they don't try to get smashed in the face by someone by accident so they can sue them only to have a judge award them £5k - payable at £40 a week forever more.

Reminds me of a tale form about 20 years ago.

I was at a house party when a couple started exchanging punches. Myself and a mate (a policeman as it happens) broke them up. As the chap was being held against the wall and being advised to calm it down she reached over from behind us and glassed him!

Thankfully they were both too plastered to recall who had broken it up as it could have been quite awkward.

Afterwards she was known as Mrs Potter.

perhaps the gym wanted your name to bill you for the repairs to the now broken door 😉

You weren't trying to open his back door were you ?

Check with the gym they filled the accident book, and maybe writte a small statement explaining what happened to attach to the form. He might sue the gym as it is their fault the door was faulty.

I expected he might stand back like I told him to...

There we are.... Case closed. You couldn't have reasonably expected that he didn't understand that simple instruction.

Edit: not a lawyer, obvs

Sad, isn't it, that the OP did somebody a favour, warned the guy to stand back, then accidentally injured the guy because he didn't heed the warning yet the OP is now worried about being sued?

What a sorry state this country is in, if reason and balance have gone so far down the toilet.

reason and balance

Do you even shirtlift bro?

Sad, isn't it, that the OP did somebody a favour, warned the guy to stand back, then accidentally injured the guy

He's more likely to sue the gym as they'll have insurance, always chase the money. As I said I suspect you can the gym will hear nothing.

There is near to zero chance of you being sued IMO. If he actally contacts a lawyer, their interest will be in claiming against the gym operators as the door was defective, they have insurance to cover such a claim and they probably can't prove that the door was ever inspected. No lawyer will be keen to sue an individual who probably doesn't have insurance cover,due to the risk they won't get paid, and you weren't clearly negligent anyway. The gym will have wanted your details as a witness for their accident report form.

sued for what?

You were obviously trying to help, and acted reasonably.

Sad, isn't it, that the OP did somebody a favour, warned the guy to stand back, then accidentally injured the guy because he didn't heed the warning yet the OP is now worried about being sued?

That he acted with good intentions is irrelevant. "All I wanted to do was give the kids a nice canoeing trip" would not be a defence against negligence either.

I don't think we know enough about the incident to say for sure, but from the OP's brief description, he may have gone in shoulder-first, when he reasonably should have exercised more caution.

I don't think we know enough about the incident to say for sure, but from the OP's brief description, he may have gone in shoulder-first, when he reasonably should have exercised more caution.

I only gave it a little shove your honour, from the way the guy was shouting "help" I thought he was having a heart attack or something serious...

Reminds me of the fake Chinese car accidents posted on YouTube. Did he have a go pro on a chest mount

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I only gave it a little shove your honour, from the way the guy was shouting "help" I thought he was having a heart attack or something serious...

He did sound really very agitated. And it was barely a shove...

If jamb and Paul Mc are right, he was probably most annoyed that you weren't gym staff, then his manufactured case against them would have been clearer.

If jamb and Paul Mc are right, he was probably most annoyed that you weren't gym staff, then his manufactured case against them would have been clearer.

My lack of clothes at the time would have made that very obvious... 😳

Not sure it's safe to assume there was malign/fraudulent intent, he may have just been pillock

"All I wanted to do was give the kids a nice canoeing trip"

nothing like the same thing.

it was barely a shove...

😆 😆 😆

[quote=OP (earlier)]There was a lot of blood

Tell it to the judge!

Anyway, as others have said, I don't think you'll be sued.

Google Good Samaritan law, there is almost no chance you will get sued.

You checked out China's entry?

There have been incidents in China, such as the Peng Yu incident in 2006,[13][14] where good Samaritans who helped people injured in accidents were accused of having injured the victim themselves.

The death of Wang Yue was caused when the toddler was run over by two vehicles. The entire incident was caught on a video, which shows eighteen people seeing the child but refusing to help. In a November 2011 survey, a majority, 71%, thought that the people who passed the child without helping were afraid of getting into trouble themselves.[15]

According to China Daily, "at least 10 Party and government departments and organizations in Guangdong, including the province's commission on politics and law, the women's federation, the Academy of Social Sciences, and the Communist Youth League, have started discussions on punishing those who refuse to help people who clearly need it."[16] Officials of Guangdong province, along with many lawyers and social workers, also held three days of meetings in the provincial capital of Guangzhou to discuss the case. It was reported that various lawmakers of the province are drafting a good Samaritan law, which would "penalize people who fail to help in a situation of this type and indemnify them from lawsuits if their efforts are in vain."[17] Legal experts and the public are debating the idea ahead of discussions and a legislative push.[18] On 1 August 2013, the nation's first good Samaritan law went into effect in Shenzhen.[19]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Samaritan_law#China

I've got nothing to add to his thread bar an appreciation for them mental storyline from the initial situation and door kick followed by two naked blokes, one leaking blood everywhere from a head wound trying to get to the gym reception to find a first aid kit.

This may just be a coincidence, but my freind (who is a Vietmanese student) was at his local gym this morning, he is a huge Bettles fan.
He told me he was singing along to one of their songs, Help was the one he mentioned, anyway he was singing along when suddenly someone kicked his door in and bashed his eyebrow, he was very confused ( and woried that he was going to be violated)
He said he won't be suing, he's just glad he is still a virgin.
Makes you think though.

Bettles

Does he also like the Ruling Stones and Pink Lloyd?

More importantly:

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The courts are reluctant to penalize people attempting rescue and English law makes provision for the actions of 'good Samaritans,' unless their actions were grossly negligent or made a situation worse. Cases such as Donoghue v Stevenson[26] where Lord Atkin culminates the parable of the good samaritan principle to 'love your neighbour' transposed in law for negligence liability.

I think you'll be fine.

he is a huge Bettles fan.

I was a Bettles fan back in the day.
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Does it strike anyone else as odd that the first course of action was to force the door rather than alert a member of staff? I mean if someone's trapped in a changing room and able to explain that, it's not like they aren't going to survive the 2 minutes for a member of staff to come along.

Nope. Perfectly fine. Don't want the door forced, don't repeatedly ask for help.

Stupid question, but how did the door 'stick'? Most public showers have the sort of doors with a lock mounted on the external surface that you can bust open. The door itself never sits flush with the frame and therefore can't stick. Did you break the lock?

Nope. Perfectly fine. Don't want the door forced, don't repeatedly ask for help.

OP,

An unfortunate circumstances there ...

Nothing to worry about now as you have good intention to help.

Next time just report to the person in charge when someone is asking for help ... even when the person is dying coz you do not know if their family would sue you for not being a qualified person to help.

And certainly don't ask finbar

When the shit goes down, I want it to be finbar who is walking past my stall.

When the shit goes down, I want it to be finbar who is walking past my stall.

To push it back up? 😯

[i]When the shit doesn't go down, I want it to be finbar who is walking past my stall with a bent coathanger.[/i]

ftfy

Was he in the closet?

Maybe he told the staff you kicked his back door in. No wonder they took your details.

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😀

Sounds like a danger**** gone awry.

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This is what happened last time I did that !

Are the gym to blame for having a door that jams? More so than you I would have thought.

What O.P. really did:

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Wait, you two are naked in the shower. The other guy says its stuck, you pushed harder and he got hurt, then he bled? 😯

The old "Supplies" joke 🙂