Redbull Hardline – 2024

Ooooo, someones been to tkmax for a new handbag

This is an absolute shocker of a statement

😂😂😂

Oh well.
The fun police have won again.

Or maybe the fun medics?

TT comparison is not entirely on all fours as (even) I could get round the TT course on a moped.  That canyon gap is all or nothing. Either clear it or have a grim outcome.

Looks like it has been binned anyway? Cynical side wonders of this was always the plan for marketing..

Holy **** some of you need a word with yourselves. The fanbois are real.

Either clear it or have a grim outcome.

Rumors for next years TT are that you have to do a 135mph average, those that don’t will be shot.

Brendog saying (@6.50) they won’t be doing the canyon gap this year but it’ll be back next…

Adam Brayton in his vid had BK saying it was his decision to say they needed a net, and that one could not be made quick enough

Brendog saying (@6.50) they won’t be doing the canyon gap this year but it’ll be back next…

Perfect that gives them 12 months to build a concrete ski jump in its place and put a bouncy castle in the bottom.

in all seriousness though, Ive have driven passed there when that waterfall has been in flood.You can guarantee that current structure would withstand a big rainfall, or I imagine high winds.

I would have allowed the canyon gap if it was built correctly. The height and distance obviously aren’t a problem. People have gone bigger in the past and Jimbo proved you can even do it without a bike.

It’s the stupid take off that’s the problem. It’s a rare case of the keyboard warriors being proved right but as soon as the first pictures appeared online people knew it wouldn’t work.

I’m no expert, but I can imagine most of that jump being sort of predetermined:

“If we’re going to do it, it needs to be *here*, and the landing needs to be *there*, and it needs to be a step-up because there’s no space for a big landing so we need people landing slow.

So the run in needs to go from there to there. We need x metres for a gap that’s worth all the bother and the loss of actual DH course, leaving y metres for flat bottom and run in.

Min. flat is z metres so the takeoff is going to have to be short and kicky or it means the gap’s going to be too small to make the all scaffolding worth the bother.”

And here we are.

OK so seeing as I got in early with “kicky” let’s keep it running. Next year, they redo it with a reshaped takeoff but also a whole different landing, moved off to the right by 2-3 metres. (which needs the ramp reshaped but I’m not thinking they’ll leave that up, anyway)

Double or nothing I’ll say no nets, or no full width net anyway, instead they address that just by making the whole thing safer, so that riders can focus on definitely clearing it and not have to worry so much about clearing it wrong, ie with there being no space to overshoot or go left or right. It gets much safer as soon as you don’t have to land in an area basically the size of my driveway

That Matt Jones video is gonna upset some “They shouldn’t do that!” fannies. It’s all bloody hard and bloody dangerous! 😂

Someone give Ronan Dunne a red Bull helmet, the kid can’t keep drinking the stuff in every video

I’m not going to argue with or reply to anyone here but when I mentioned the Isle of Man TT it was in response to a suggestion that serious injuries/fatalities at this event will get future similar events banned. What has happened here is that Bernard Kerr has been asked to test some new parts of the track prior to the event taking place. He rode most of it and told the organisers/builders that parts of it weren’t going to work and they needed more safety precautions than they had in place, therefore the features in question will not be used in the event. I see no problem with this approach but I agree the jump looked like an accident waiting to happen the way it was built

It’s the stupid take off that’s the problem. It’s a rare case of the keyboard warriors being proved right

Oh **** off with the keyboard warriors pish. People called it as dangerous and lo and behold, the riders agreed.

Could you imagine how that would go if someone’s front wheel washed out? Or their bike gave up on the kicker?

I love how people are so quick to defend this shit when it’s someone else’s life in the balance. Extreme sport or not that doesn’t give anyone a pass on risk assessments or reasonably practicable mitigtions. Nobody is asking for sanitised courses, just consideration for the riders wellbeing. And before you start with the “they know the risks” patter, people often need saving from themselves. You want to see what happens if someone dies in an official event in the UK? I guarantee you nobody will be holding anything whilst the aftermath rumbles through the courts and the increased insurance costs and admin kills off the stuff us mortals want to do. Look at what an empty cattle truck falling into a ditch did to DH racing.

It’s all bloody hard and bloody dangerous!

Quite an eye opener seeing the track that close up and how jagged those rocks are. Chin breakers indeed.

Oh **** off with the keyboard warriors pish. People called it as dangerous and lo and behold, the riders agreed.

Could you imagine how that would go if someone’s front wheel washed out? Or their bike gave up on the kicker?

In such a rush to post the asterisks you didn’t take the time to realise I’m saying the same thing you are? People saw the pictures and called it out. Then the test rides backed it up. I’m glad they’ve canned it for now.

Quite an eye opener seeing the track that close up and how jagged those rocks are. Chin breakers indeed.

Everyone focuses on the big features, it’s easy to miss the fact that all the ground in between the features is also absolutely horrendous.

In such a rush to post the asterisks you didn’t take the time to realise I’m saying the same thing you are? People saw the pictures and called it out. Then the test rides backed it up. I’m glad they’ve canned it for now.

@sharkattack apologies then, I misunderstood. I’ve been wading through far too many comments saying exactly what I thought you had.

bit alarmed by ratboy’s greying hair in BK’s latest LSD vid.  I remember when he was a wee nipper riding Nannerch in Earthed 3.  Also he seemed to be getting on with Gee?

anyway, its causing me existential angst

Now the hype of the canyon gap has faded we can sit back and watch the fun…the best riders in the world working out how to piece a full run of this beast of a course together.

I love the vlogs that show the conversations between the riders about each section and the lines.

Looking forward to more and the race on Sunday – weather looks sorted for the next few days.

It’ll be great to see them hitting that new top section, it looks vicious up close.

Looks like the women have hit the big classic road gap now which is pretty awesome.  I reckon the canyon gap will be sorted for next year and pretty epic..  See if Brendan wants to flip it like his rampage canyon gap ha.

Someone give Ronan Dunne a red Bull helmet, the kid can’t keep drinking the stuff in every video

And then they did.

It’ll be great to see them hitting that new top section, it looks vicious up close.

Was nice to see them struggling with the top section, and having to work hard to get down it, never seen some of them ride so slow. However its incredible to see their fast progression from snails pace to almost race pace on it in a matter of hours.

He’s not on the line up I’ve seen but Gee appears in muddy race gear on Gas to flat…

What percentage of the time are the wheels actually in contact with the ground for when riding like this?

I love Ronan Dunne’s course previews/onboards, they’re objectively absolutely awful because all you get is “oh jaysis… oh that was a bit… right we’re coming up now on eh… ooof…” but it just works. You get a sense of difficulty and hecticness that’s so often missing.

New practice run video on RBTV .. love the stuff with Tahnee psyching herself up for the road gap 😀

WTF:

Levelling Up

Scroll down to ‘Partners’. That just seems absurd.

Where did the money go?

How much?

I agree. It doesnt seem the best way of spending taxpayers money. Better this than some of the arts funding awarded

Question on Ronan getting the Red Bill helmet- how does that work? I’d assumed they get approached by RB, then negotiate a deal, but that Matt Jones vid seemed like he had no idea he was getting it. Or would they have have negotiated with his agent beforehand?

Its all negotiated and agreed up front, there has to be a signed deal on the off chance the rider doesn’t want it. I cant imagine that happens very often but but the odd person might. Then the helmet sponsor provides the helmets to get painted up ready for the announcement

Ronan’s been chugging (and mentioning) RB in every video hes been in for months. Look at his Hardline Tasmaniia interviews, the vids with Matt, etc.

I doubt he didnt know it was coming, he’s certainly been very loudly asking for it. Delighted for him.

Yeah, I get that and I know he’s been pushing for it, but does that mean the big reveal was just for the likes and shares?

Also well pleased for him, he’s a likeable lad! As well as being insanely rapid

but does that mean the big reveal was just for the likes and shares?

Yes. It’s their version of announcing a new team rider

Big reveals usually are, his mum had told everyone in Ireland he was moving to Mondraker minths before it was announced 😁

Cycled up as a walk in today

It’s a much better spectator event than I imagined – walking up to the waterfall to watch them coming down the mountain and sending the big jumps then walking back down to the big screens to watch the final riders is great.