I think they size up good. I also think and hope that the great discounted deal that we are getting will be on the back of probably a re think on the Grid casing back to the older type Grid sidewalls but not as full on as a Blck Dmnd.

Hmm this is going to cost me money. Found one of the knobs on my current purgatory 2bliss has ripped into the case a fair way so dont trust it now. Thinking of a butcher 2.6 and eliminator 2.3 rear as don’t think I’ve the space for bigger. Both in grid casing.

How does the butcher 2.6 size up (could anyone measure one please)? The reviews seem to suggest more like 2.4. Currently running a on-one chunky monkey 2.4 in 30mm internal rims so don’t want the 2.3 butcher but concerned the 2.6 may no fit my forks (marzocchi 350 NCR, non boost).

The Butcher 2.6 is about 62mm at the knobs, maybe a bit wider on the carcass, quite tall so it’s a fairly high volume tyre. That’s on a 30mm rim.

Thanks @chiefgrooveguru, I make the chunky monkey 61mm on my rims so hopefully ok.

2.8 butcher grid up tubeless fairly easily, certainly easier then the 3.0 purgatory it replaced.

Ordered Wednesday, arrived Friday.

Ace PSA and stellar service from Specialized.

Ordered an eliminator and butcher in 2.6 for my remedy, looking forward to trying them out with eliminator front, butcher rear.

Only thing confusing me is several people on this thread saying that they’re running butcher front and eliminator rear and was wondering why?

I thought the eliminator was a more aggresive tire than the butcher, as specialized themselves say the eliminator is an intermediate between the hillbilly and the butcher so this sounds an illogical set up IMO?

Isn’t the eliminator heavier than the butcher too?

“Only thing confusing me is several people on this thread saying that they’re running butcher front and eliminator rear and was wondering why?”

I had the same thought! I guess the Butcher is more like a DHF and the Eliminator like a DHR2. I was running a Butcher 2.6 on the rear which the Eliminator 2.3 is replacing. I have a Hillbilly 2.6 on the front.

I find the Butcher on the back a bit of a strange one – it’s not the fastest tyre but it doesn’t seem to brake or turn as well as it should, however it is very progressive, not at all snappy, easy to drift. I’m hoping the smaller Eliminator will be quicker rolling and at least as good at the other stuff.

The 2.3″ Butcher and Purg size up markedly narrower than the DHF 2.35 and HR2 2.3 they replace.

On my 21mm rims, the Butcher is 2.17″ and Purg 2.14″.

Very quick postage though! 👍

Currently having a right battle getting eliminator 2.6 on my rim. Shockingly tight bead. Not helped by trying to put on with Planet X foam insets but I have managed the rear butcher DH2.5 but that has been on before.

Grrrrrrr

Mounted rear 2.6 29er Butcher on 29mm rim with Rimpact liner ok last night. Doing the front with 2.6 Hillbilly later.

Trick for me is to push bead down side of liner after first bead is mounted but I’m getting the feeling there isn’t much room with the PX ones.

I haven’t measured mine but I’ve got a new 2.4 Michelin on a 30mm rim. Side by side it looks exactly the same width as my 2.6 Butcher and Hillbilly on 35mm Hope rims.

The only difference is in the height. The Spesh is about 10mm taller than the Michelin.

Used the hill Billy 2.6 today at my local. H excellent tyre and not as aggressive as I thought it was, could probably use in more just mud. Also got eliminator and butcher.

having a right battle getting eliminator 2.6 on my rim

Must vary by rim, I put one on a Spank Spike Race 33 yesterday no problem even with a rimpact insert in there

Managed in the end, with an additional set of hands but was a bit of a brute!

So I’m going with eliminator front a I read a good review of it on there, but it’s more closely spaced than a butcher so hopefully predominantly dry in the alps! It also doesn’t look v wide – not measured but certainly no where near 2.6 I’d say.

Is there an idiots guide to specialized tyres like trek and Maxxis have because I can’t work out their descriptions. Ideally want xc spring autumn tyres, thanks

“Managed in the end, with an additional set of hands but was a bit of a brute!”

I had trouble with my Rimpacts the first time – until I read the instructions and pushed the beads right down towards the centre of the rim!

“So I’m going with eliminator front a I read a good review of it on there, but it’s more closely spaced than a butcher so hopefully predominantly dry in the alps!”

The side knobs are fractionally closer spaced than the Butcher but I think the centre knobs look better for soft ground, being smaller and spikier.

“It also doesn’t look v wide – not measured but certainly no where near 2.6 I’d say.”

I’m curious to know what it measures! My new Eliminator 29×2.3 is 60mm at the tread (maybe 60.5) and 59mm at the casing (maybe 58.5). So the very narrowest measurement is 2.30” and the widest 2.38”.

Have Specialized managed to make a 2.3” and 2.6” tyre that are essentially the same size?!!

Not measured the 2.6 eliminator as I can’t find my calipers but it’s bigger than a 2.35 magic Mary and bigger than a 2.5 WT Dhf minion. Much bigger and mud clearance might be an issue.(Non Boost Mattoc).

Have Specialized managed to make a 2.3” and 2.6” tyre that are essentially the same size?!!

No, I don’t think so.  I have (27.5) 2.3 Butcher and Slaughter and now 2.6 Eliminator and Slaughter.  The 2.6 is a bigger tyre with bigger volume BUT to a large degree the extra volume appears to be in added height rather than width.  I will measure them both, currently on 28mm internal Spank rims, if I remember but they don’t appear to be very much wider than the 2.3, I’d guess I’m going to find they are around 2.4 maybe a touch more

bigger than a 2.5 WT Dhf minion

Doesn’t look it to me but my 2.5WT DHF is on a wider rim, 32mm v 28mm

On a Hope 35w, the 2.6 butcher is bigger than a 2.6 hillbilly. A 2.6 DHF is bigger than the butcher.

Great PSA thanks.
Only just bought my bike but have now ordered two more 2.6 Butchers for when they need replacing.
A bit daft… but I do love a bargain.

The butcher 2.6 is pretty much the same width as minion dhf 2.5wt which I have on another bike. Not sure on height though. Minion rubber is a lot softer. Hill Billy 2.6 slightly narrower.

Recent convert to Specialized rubber and have been really impressed with a HillBilly/Butcher combo, grip is good and roll better then similar options from Schwalbe.

Shame there aren’t more BLK DMND options in the sale as I don’t think the Grid casing is quite up to the task unfortunately , would like to try some faster rolling options out though.

While I was impressed with the Butcher on the rear of the bike, I found with the Grid casing it needed more pressure than a 2.4 HR2 to stop it feeling like it was folding over. Then at BPW in April it failed where the bead meets the sidewall. Enough to lose pressure on Insufficient Funds and not seal with the latex.

Now running a Michelin Wild Enduro 2.4 and rather impressed so far.

Not much left on there now! Any thoughts on Purgatory F&R for general use tyre? Mainly Surrey Hills, won’t bother swapping out for wet and dry.

I’ll probably go DHF if I don’t get these.

I’ve got a spare unused Butcher Grid 29×2.6 if anyone wants one.

Not from this sale, it came off the front of my Levo when new (put a Hillbilly there) and was kept as a back-up (until I bought an Eliminator).

Mounted eliminator and it’s measuring 2.5 on my early gen light bicycle rims.

Unfortunately the older dh butcher is leaking massively from the bead/sidewall join as mentioned by someone above so I e just used this psa to order a butcher blk dmnd.

Looks like Grid casing is being replaced by Grid Trail looking at the front page review.
Butcher 2.6 looks to be about 100g heavier in the new casing so puts them in quite a good spot for me as a tough’ish rear.

ordered mine last Wednesday but haven’t got them yet

signed for as delivered Friday am at 6:50, signed by direct trunk Enfield which had me worried but apparently its part of DPD.

DPD have not delivered them, specialized are chasing them up… 3 days so far and no joy.

the worst thing is my delivery address is directly opposite where the tyres are being “held” by DPD, they could just throw them over the wall ffs.

gutted as im going to glentress Saturday and they were supposed to be back up tyres

Thanks for the psa!

Had a few delivery to the local specialised shop and picked them up today.

I’ve been impressed by the blk diamond butchers on uplift days and by the grid on the front.

Stuck on my Eliminator/Purgatory combo tonight, both 27.5×2.6 – Purgatory rear was tighter and sealed with just a track pump (no sealant yet), Eliminator front has a tube in it to let it stretch for a few days.

Initial measured widths are:
Eliminator – 61mm knobs, 62mm casing
Purgatory – 62mm knobs, 64mm casing

Was hoping the Eliminator would be wider, which is annoying but will see how they go at the weekend. Both on DT Swiss 30mm internal M501s.