Probability of living inside a simulation

Golf. Nobody would have included it in a simulation.

Ask the digital residents of San Andreas

Admire your confidence slowold. Don’t get killed on the next zebra crossing…

Hopefully we’re all being simulated in a lab with a decent UPS rather than on a kids playstation.

I think we are. That makes all you lot Dwayne Dibley.

Better than life?

Makes sense. All this time I’ve been playing the crap version of Rimmer.

This is basically just another way of believing in a god, no?

And not the particularly enlightened type, the idea of creationism is fairly indistinguishable from a simulation?

Our God could be a 9 year old kid from an advanced civilisation (or his/her Mam who might switch us off when she wants to do the hoovering)

So the point of simulation is to experiment, the most useful things in my simulations is the fast forward and reset buttons. At times the detail is pointless and adds no value but slows down the results. As a simulation it’s very poorly designed.

If ‘they’ are reading this then can you rewind me by 3 years please, thanks

*waits*

If ‘they’ are reading this then can you rewind me by 3 years please, thanks

Normally only reset, you need to go back change the parameters and start again

If ‘they’ are reading this then can you rewind me by 3 years please, thanks

*waits*

that’s the trouble with life “undo is grayed out” 🙂

So the point of simulation is to experiment, the most useful things in my simulations is the fast forward and reset buttons. At times the detail is pointless and adds no value but slows down the results. As a simulation it’s very poorly designed.

The speed of our simulation would only be observable by the people who set it up, no? We’d still experience it at the same speed.

My point being if anything it would have to be the sort of self indulgent simulation that has far too much detail.

So your saying, that given the ability to do so, our narcissism wouldn’t cause us to try recreate our ancestors/evolution in a simulation for the lolz/because we could – for some kind of nerd version of big brother?

Sat at my desk I can simulate a lot, today was a hospital, last week was moving patients from on to another, the there was the cheese store 🙂 in all of those we skipped and skimmed the unimportant to get to the issues.

that given the ability to do so, our narcissism wouldn’t cause us to try recreate our ancestors/evolution in a simulation

To an extent we do in film and television, simulating their evolution is more an emulation or documenting of history. Simulation is there for the what ifs and what could be. Replaying and playing games with history doesn’t care when you took a dump this morning 🙂

I get your point, I mean why simulate humans if you’re looking at something else? Wasted resources. I guess it depends on how cheap that kind of computing power was at the time – you could use it as a sandbox to test a lot of scientific, social, evolutionary theories without someone going “NOT ACCURATE ENUFFFFF”. A tool like that would be the final word in being able to predict the likelihood of just about any future event. Plus, it would just be cool wouldn’t it?

But, I don’t personally think that it can be done anyway.

Someone ring Prof Cox.

On a slightly related topic, this Rick and Morty show was hilarious – if any fellow nerds on here still haven’t heard of it.

I’m pretty sure it has something to do with these guys…

This is basically just another way of believing in a god, no

Pretty much. At the scale of the universe you may as well believe in a God as as the laws of physics, it essentially amounts to the same thing

That’s just silly.

The laws of physics are descriptives of observable parameters.

A god is an allegedley self-autonomous infinitely powerful invisible being that controls everything. As well as being non-existant, of course.

You might as well say that the rules of grammar and Shakespeare are the same thing.

Consider for a moment, that if there WERE a simulation being run, it may not be originated by humans seeking to simulate their own existence.

If you’re thinking on this level, it’s just as plausible that the universe is one big digital petri dish, humans are just one product of a chaos experiment run via a simulation. There may be other digital petri dishes running along side. Humans are just an evolving product in one of those experiments.

Not saying…but…what if? What IF? Mind blown yet?

So ‘those’ who are running us as an experiment, how did they come in to existence? etc etc

So ‘those’ who are running us as an experiment, how did they come in to existence? etc etc

Think they were conceived in the woods behind the nationwide in Swindon.

Actually…I haven’t got a scooby tbh… one step at a time, eh?

😆

Watch that video above, it could be self petting, but leaves a chicken & egg scenario. E.g. the theory is that our brain is ar capacity & maxima; size, so the only way to add intelligence is to build it artificially, therefore Simulate a better version of ourselves, which in turn, etc…

Not saying…but…what if? What IF? Mind blown yet?

Er. No.

I’m pretty sure it has something to do with these guys…

Them and the golgafrinchians.

One of the most intriguing theories I’ve heard is that our Universe is a projection from the singularity of a black hole; based on a the premise that information at it’s most basic level is never destroyed and therefore anything that gets sucked into a black hole is regurgitated out the other side.

That’s just silly.

sort of, but considering that we have no way of currently measuring what 95% of the observable universe actually is made from…saying “it’s god” as about as good as every other theory currently knocking about.

😆

That’s not a theory. It’s just the equivalent of saying “wibble”.

if it’s a simulation it’s a bloody shit one in my case.

and some other food for thought..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discrete_event_simulation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuous_simulation

Big differences and heaps of overlap, life would probably be best discrete which as I said earlier allows you to skip the bits that don’t matter. Continuous would be a masive overhead for no real benifit in a lot of areas, you can go hybrid on it and do a bit of both.

The key question is what sits on top of the board in any of my simulation training courses is What Is the Question.
If it’s a purly self indulgent simulation for the hell of it then are you just grasping for god by another name?

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So the point of simulation is to experiment, the most useful things in my simulations is the fast forward and reset buttons. At times the detail is pointless and adds no value but slows down the results. As a simulation it’s very poorly designed.

For all we know the sim is in fast forward right now, it’s just that we perceive it at steady speed. Or was reset yesterday and we were preloaded with the quicksave data so we don’t know. (except for my mate Andrew, who always takes longer to load than everyone else)

OK, current simulation and it’s limits…
To run a simulation you need to run the events in order, we still don’t run more than single core for the computing, the biggest thing to be invented in the space is the ability to run the overhead involved in multicoring the synchronisation between the event lists of events means it’s still more efficient to run single core. The overhead in running a world level simulation at full detail ends up with the situation where the people asking the question are dead by the time you get the answers. Given that you need to run 10’s to 1000’s of scenarios to make anything of your simulation that’s a lot of planet sized computers.
The reason we can fast forward to something useful is by skipping a lot of detail out. That’s the sort of day to day shit that doesn’t really matter in the long run but amuses us on day to day.

if there is a god, he’s an asshole.

The key question is what sits on top of the board in any of my simulation training courses is What Is the Question.

Perhaps the question is “How long will it take this simulated planet to develop sentient life capable of figuring out that it is is in a simulation?”

Perhaps the question is “How long will it take this simulated planet to develop sentient life capable of figuring out that it is is in a simulation?”

Then if you’re running in sequence then it’s a long time to work it out, how many parameters are you changing? What are your variables?

If the universe is infinite then there are probably more simulated realities than real ones. So odds are you are living in a simulated one.

Wondering why this would be the case probably misses the point given that:

“Any sufficiently advanced technology would be indistinguishable from magic”
and
“The universe is not only stranger then we suppose but stranger than we can suppose”

Also in an infinite universe there will be an identical copy of this thread being read and contributed to by an identical copy of the individuals involved in it. It will be a very large but finite distance away in the infinite universe.

Fun thread though!

and as part of it want to simulate a world in full detail fix this one
https://www.comsol.com/blogs/havent-cpu-clock-speeds-increased-last-years/