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32" inside leg and my SS is a 54. I think 58 would be far too big.
rOcKeTdOg - Member
I think it's been so long neither of us know why, I've been purposely avoiding replying to threads that u start in an effort for peace,I'm happy to draw a line under it & make a fresh start, life's to short etc. Ball is in your court.
All you need to do is engage without trolling - I have no idea why you ever did that - I'm not aware of having done anything similar to you to justify it.
Christ, that's 3 big hitters going at it now! 😀
Oi I'm not a bighitter, I only normally come on here for light banter/fun. Not to make a last stand at cycle Zulu Dawn.
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Hora you are too modest 🙂
Seriously though, just ride the PX. Sounds like you have it fairly sorted now. It is more than enough bike on which to serve a road bike apprenticeship. Just go get the miles in.
If you have cash burning a hole in your pocket and you really want to improve your road riding then get a trainer road subscription, sufferfest vids, or a power meter and a training plan.
rOcKeTdOg - Member
I think it's been so long neither of us know why, I've been purposely avoiding replying to threads that u start in an effort for peace,I'm happy to draw a line under it & make a fresh start, life's to short etc. Ball is in your court.All you need to do is engage without trolling - I have no idea why you ever did that - I'm not aware of having done anything similar to you to justify it.
as I said, I'm happy to do it, I'll take that as agreement. (hopefully it's more binding than a Hora email)
Nobeerinthefridge - MemberChrist, that's 3 big hitters going at it now
good god I hope you don't mean me, don't label me with that
Richpips
Was that photo from the infamous Realman (Avid) brakes thread ?
On paper it looks ok sizewise but the standover is that close? Does it 'really' matter? On a MTB yes but a road bike?
Richpips
Was that photo from the infamous Realman (Avid) brakes thread ?
Dunno, missed that one.
No Hora, fit doesn't matter at all on a road bike. Not at all.
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Richardthird If someone's coming from limited knowledge on a topic and asking advice then patronising is the answer?..
It's not the standover that's the concern (although it might be in this case), it's the reach. Unless you are a weird shaped monkey it'll be too stretched out.
Im 33inch but 6ft1- long back/trunk if that hrlps
Behave Hora you know the theory at least.
Rules on buying a road bike.
1. Does it fit. Try it out for size first.
2. See 1.
So has the sale fallen through then?
Evans is a dealer- I put enough money their way. I'll just swing a leg over one on display for a quick check. See post 1 😆
Blant
Racist.
I fail to see how its only 4cm difference between my current and the Dale.
4cm is significant enough for the likes of Cannondale to invest in moulds to produce 3 frame sizes within it (eg. 54, 56, 58).
On paper it looks ok sizewise but the standover is that close? Does it 'really' matter? On a MTB yes but a road bike?
I'm a big fan of 'Dale road bikes but they are "old fashioned" in having horizontal non compact top tubes, so look and feel big for their size. You might not 'need' stand-over as you're not a 9 year old doing your cycling proficiency, but it may psychologically as much as physically feel too big.
As well as the head angle have you compared head tube length? the 'Six is their racey frame and has a shorter head tube than the Synapse and no doubt the P-X. How many headset spacers are you going to need to replicate your current riding position.
If you can't or wont sit on a 58, get the full geometry written down and transpose this onto your current bike, with string and card if need be, to give you an idea how it would look and feel. I'm 5'10 and a 32" inseam, some size guides put me on either a 54 or 56 C'dale, but having done this exercise on my current bike I convinced myself the 56 would feel way too big for me and saved myself the £2800 I was toying with spending on a discounted Hi Mod Dura Ace.
Devils Advocate but you're new to road riding, I returned to road a few years ago and my second bike (bought 18 months and may miles after my first) is longer and lower than my first as I have adapted; becoming more flexible and stronger in the core.
I'd hold off upgrading until you have more miles on the P-X, are more comfortable and confident as roadie and have identified what you consider shortcomings in the P-X.
Racist.
Well at least no ones spotted my grammar
So has the sale fallen through then?
reckon so, but good to see Al has upped his game to slagging customers before they're even customers - that's hitting big 😆
Richardthird If someone's coming from limited knowledge on a topic and asking advice then patronising is the answer?..
Possibly. But then you do mostly ignore the usually overwhelmingly unanimous advice you get given 🙂
Possibly. But then you do mostly ignore the usually overwhelmingly unanimous advice you get given
Look at the bike, its shod with GP4000's front and rear, ok wheels with latex tubes. All from previous STW'er hard graft at the hora graniteface.. 🙂
sound advice from the crashing monkey.
canondales feel big to me as well.
Has anyone made a deal for the bike yet?
Hora is the same size as me, I fancy discounted road bike.
Look at the bike
If you'd have brought the Defy we probably wouldn't be here now 😉
crashtestmonkey- thank you.
On the core- funnily I've found swimmings really helped on this. I've dropped down two spacers on the front to 'slam(?) the stem and find that the comfiest now.
If you'd have brought the Defy we probably wouldn't be here now
I know- it was the level of kit on it at the time that stopped me. It was lovely on the test ride too (M/L).
Hora, I ride a M/L Defy. (5'11, 32") If that fitted you then a 58 is waaaaay too big (as I suspect the PX is too - what is your saddle to bars drop)
I had a planet x sl and swapped it for a canyon ultimate CF.
Is the Canyon marginally lighter - yes
Is it noticably stiffer - not really
Is it faster - not according to strava
Does it look way better and make me look more pro - definitely
Haven't you only had the px for a matter of months. If you fancy upgrading then fine, but dont try to justify it because (as someone with little road riding exp) you wont be able to
matt_outandabout - Member
Has anyone made a deal for the bike yet?
Hora is the same size as me, I fancy discounted road bike.
Better yet, say want you it then ignore him!
Better yet, [i][b]say want you[/b][/i]
Eh-up wants a bit of manlove with me? 😯
I'm not selling 'the' bike- All the full Ultegra/wheels etc I need.
Without getting dragged into the rights or wrongs here, hora I reckon a 58 will be too big for you. We're pretty much the same height (if anything I'm a smidge taller than you) and I tried a 58 Caad10 and it felt far too big. I reckon you're a 56 sort of fella.
32" inside leg and my SS is a 54. I think 58 would be far too big.
I'm 6ft with 33" inside leg and ride a 58 canyon slx which is perfect for me. The super six is about 10mm longer in the top tube but I went to a 120mm stem on the Canyon to get the fit right, a 110mm stem on the S/S would make them nearly identical. I reckon you'd be fine on either the 56 or a 58 depending on how high you like the saddle above the bars without lots of spacers.
Let's face it Hora, this is not the first time you've made yourself look like a tit by pussyfooting on the classifieds.
I'm 6ft with 33" inside leg and ride a 58 canyon slx which is perfect for me.
Yeah probably is, but it is 1.4 cm shorter in the reach than the Cannondale Super Six, based the respective geometry charts. That's a big difference.
Wait! How long have PX been rubbish? I can't keep up with this place. Still, I'm riding mine in around an hour, hope the day's not ruined.
They become rubbish when you sell it because you didn't win things on it, it's never the rider. Then you sell the carlos fandango super sports that replaced it because you didn't win things on that either. But then you shut up because there's nothing else to blame.
1.4cm isn't 'massive' but if the stand over is bad?
Who said planetx was 'bad'. This isnt a filling in the gaps thread.
You can't blame a man for wanting to treat himself. Otherwise we'd all be riding round on basic alu's and 5k+ bikes wouldnt have a market.
Singlesteed back in your box. Gelded fool.
Love you hora. Youve just made my commute slightly more bearable. I thought we had all diagnosed horas bicycle aspergers in 2006.
I thought we had all diagnosed horas bicycle aspergers in 2006.
it all goes way way before that
So when am I getting paid 😛
Well if you don't think 1.4 cm isn't a big difference when there is only 1.5 cm between sizes on the Cannondale then you really don't get road bikes.
Just pay Cynic-al his money then stick it on the classifieds in a month when you realise it's too big.
You sold the PX already then hora?
Gents, it was all a scam.
This is stw's finest off-classifieds-for-sale thread EVVVVVAH!
58cm 2015 Supersix for sale 😎
Too big for me. Sorry.
How much are you after for it al?
Massivley reduced to £500 ono, its mint.
How tall are you Al?
Yeh, I guess that's a good price. I'll have a think, probably won't bother though since I want something a bit cheaper.
Personally - no chance I'd still be selling him my bike after this 🙄
My 2p worth Hora..
Get a 56 SS put a 110 or 120 stem on it (preferably a 120)
Dales do feel big, they have a lofty feel about them. Some like that, some don't. They do ride well, feel a bit flicky and yet stable.
Never ridden a PX roadie, but from what you've said and learned over the last few months on it, your dead feel and wobble suggests it's not right for you. You could stick with it, I'd suggest you'd get bored very soon and stop riding it. Sell it whilst you can and seek out a Dale if thats what you've got your eyes on.
Neither will make you Gilbert BTW, for that to happen you need to put some miles and effort in learning how any bike rides then get a training regime sorted out to really enjoy Roadies. MTB's they are not.
As for all the other too-ing and fro-ing on this thread, well it's been quite a fun read.
2 pen'eth over.
6' 1" MussEd
To be honest, at 6'1" i'd be looking for a 56. Canondales come up pretty big, and they benefit from a slightly longer stem. Their race frames have shorter head tubes (caad 8 excepted), and Hora, you'd not get the bars high enough and you wouldn't notice much difference anyway.
Frame size and stem will affect handling more than material.
Avoid the white ones, keeping them clean is painful and they show the scratches dreadfully!
That's your opinion but its a personal thing.
I would find a 56 too short, certainly didn't notice the stem length an issue as regards handling.
Err, Al, important question, what colour is it?
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Thread's gone a bit crap since page 1.
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I'm a crim grrrr because I was in the process of buying it but wanted to double-check first if I was making the right move.
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Genius thread! I applaud all involved - most entertaining 🙂
lunge - matt grey (it's the £1700 Sram one)
I am 6"2" may I have pics sent to rsdonald50AThotmailDOTCOM please Al.
duckman... [url= http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/fs-2015-cannondale-supersix-58cm-frameset ]here[/url]. Quite nice. I'd be tempted if I was in the market for such a thing and it was a size smaller. Actually Al, I'll take it... oh hold on, maybe I'll just ask the forum for some advice first 🙂
Very nice,but I have had a look at the geometry and I fit a 60cm a bit better,especially as I have had a number of road bikes over the year and know what length,tt, standover I like etc.
Interesting range of views on sizing! I chose the 58 for TT length, would have happily had lower standover.
Ok. They only had a 60 and a 56. My nuts sat squarely on the 60 and **** its a massive gate. The 56 there was a couple inch gap but the TT felt short for me. Thoughts?
I'm 6'2" with 33" inside leg have a 56 super six, stem slammed. They do come up big. I reckon 58 would be too big for you.
Thoughts?
Yup, as I said a 56 with a 120 stem, maybe some 40 bars to pull you in a bit too.
Bugger. It'd been perfect if a smidge smaller. Apologies cynical al. When it comes to roadbikes I dither a lot partly because I don't know how it all works.
I have a PX Carbon, seems alright, quite like it. Didn't realise it was rubbish.
Still I reckon the bike can get swapped out when it becomes the limiting factor, until then why bother?
Who said it was rubbish? Yet another example of internet people jumping three steps ahead to get to a conclusion.
dragon - Member
Right lets gets this straight:1) Planet-X are rubbish so of course a Cannondale will be better.
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