Planetx Pro Carbon to a SuperSix (or other)- tell the difference?

richardthird- I was having second thoughts/dithering over whether it was the right move. Not right but in contrast to scamming, paypal fraud, selling cracked tat, misdescribing etc- its not really a crime.

So did you read my last post it may be of interest to you in terms of your bike?

Also have you thrown a leg over a 58cm supersix as dales are pretty big imho

Hora- I’ll buy your house.

Seller- Great, I’ll sell it to you and take it off the market. Then I’ll have the money to buy a new house/eat/sort my life out/pay some bills.

Hora- ………………

Seller- Are you buying my house? I’ve taken it off the market because you said you’d buy it and need the money.

Hora- ………..

Seller- I see you’ve started a thread saying you may not buy my house. But you said you were going to buy it- are you?

Hora- I’m not sure. Why did you take it off the market after I’d agreed to buy it?

Does that make it any clearer why you’ve been an idiot?

Anyway, yes, al’s Supersix will be lots better than the cheap Planet X frames, which aren’t very good and are rather heavy. Stop buggering the man about and send him the money so he can buy a container load of spoons.

Ok.

don’t take this the wrong way, but you are clearly a complete novice road rider and the only difference you’ll notice will be in your head (either from what you’ve read on here or from the perceived worth of a more expensive frame).

Having read your ramblings on here over the years it’s clear you don’t have a clue about geometry, fit, handling or even frame materials/design of mtb frames.

Stick with the PX (assuming it fits) stop buying “upgrades” for it and actually ride the thing. choose something else in a few years. ATM it’s way more capable a bike than the rider is.

£60 to alter your saddle position and tell you you’d be more comfortable with a shorter stem is a piss take.
Any good roadie bike shop would do this for a regular customer (or a new customer who’s just bought a bike) for free.

hora, How about I find you a video on YouTube that will help you alter your saddle position and you send Al £30 for my trouble?

Al, You ok with that?

Good!

Sorted. 😉

Al, you can buy me a pint

Well mtbel i was happy with it i was bent all over the shop and measured then placed on the bike and measured and had various things altered and remeasured. And feel much better on the bike. Also had all the measurements given to me for future ref other than insoles and wedges everything was covered and my prev experience of a proper roaf bike shop non of this was done. So imo its the best 60 quid ive spent on a bike as it now fits me correctly. As for the stem it was a fancy salsa adjustable tool that adjusted to every size so he could get my position where he wanted it rather than me saying oh yeah that’s better. Each to their own we are not all experts.i trust the guys bike fit training and sports physiotherapy qualifications and road riding experience more than i do my own tbh

You are right in that it’s sold when the money has changed hands.

But it’s really bad form to agree to purchase something and then not. The agreement is the shaking hands and while it’s not a signed legal contract, it’s seen as a contract between gentlemen. Thus, pulling out does not do your reputation much good.

Not ridden either bike but I know a few who have gone from Planet x frames to similar and say it’s night and day. The supersix should be an awesome bike.

I’d buy it as you’re obviously thinking you want a better road bike and this is a better road bike.

Can I list other things which are crimes? Just to help future readers of this thread. For reasons of clarity
if you like…

Paedophilia, arson, assault and battery, resetting, carrying an offensive weapon, speeding, fly-tipping, embezzlement, solicitation, possession of controlled substances, people trafficking, selling alcohol to under 18s, shooting seagulls, public urination, trespass.

Just a few of many transgressions that may land a chap in trouble with the law. As you say, welching on a deal you’ve made on the classifieds pales into insignificance when you look at some of those. But it is annoying so I’m afraid you have to suck up the flaming in this instance.

Having read your ramblings on here over the years it’s clear you don’t have a clue about geometry, fit, handling or even frame materials/design of mtb frames.

I’ll bite. You joined in November 2014 which means you must be a previous banned user then. Or a longterm stalker.

Chose one.

Its all a rocky learning curve fella. None of us know it all. Of course you are a mechanic to a Pro and thus know your onions.

But it is annoying so I’m afraid you have to suck up the flaming in this instance.

Yep and I’ve held my hands up to the lack of communication/reply.

The agreement is the shaking hands and while it’s not a signed legal contract, it’s seen as a contract between gentlemen. Thus, pulling out does not do your reputation much good.

This is the thing, I wasn’t pulling out- I was asking if I was making the right decision. Correct?

trespass

Family Fortunes style UH-UUUUUUUHHHH

I went Planet-X Pro Carbon > Merida Scultura > Cannondale Supersix Hi-Mod

the most marked difference is the geometry, the Planet-X is quite relaxed, the Cannondale is a race frame,

if i had to buy again id get a Synapse Hi-Mod, if its good enough for Pro Teams to race on, and be more comfortable, its good enough for anyone

http://rouleur.cc/journal/bicycles/pro-tools-peter-sagans-bespoke-cannondale-synapse

Two big hitters in classifieds spat.

Coffee is on….. 😀

Right lets gets this straight:

1) Planet-X are rubbish so of course a Cannondale will be better.

2) Will you notice, probably not as you don’t seem to understand bikes.

3) Is what you have done poor form and out of order, yes.

Do yourself a favour, buy the frame as agreed, and then go and step away from the internet for a good while.

bite? get over yourself. read what I typed (maybe a few times) and take it on the chin. it’s good advice. and free.

Will it even fit him? How does a 58cm SS compare to Hora’s Large PX with not much seatpost showing

they are a lot less compact, almost horizontal is scary for a MTBer

Nobeerinthefridge – Member

Two big hitters in classifieds spat

He’s no Big Hitter!

If it was me?

I’d stick with the PX, make it a comfy place to be and just ride it. Nowt wrong with the PX, it’s a great frame.

dragon oh dear. Opinions are like assholes everyone’s got one, however I’d prefer if you kept both of yours to yourself

Wait! How long have PX been rubbish? I can’t keep up with this place. Still, I’m riding mine in around an hour, hope the day’s not ruined.

Its not rubbish. If I could afford 2 road bikes or the space I’d definitely keep it. I just fancy an upgrade.

Has anyone told Hora that what he did was wrong?

Surely someone on here wants to tell him that what he did was wrong?

I think someone will be along shortly to inform Hora that what he did was wrong.

Its people saying the samething over and over and over again oblivious to my admission on communication failure early on. As is the world of forums people scan then form an opinion before pausing and reading properly.

the most marked difference is the geometry, the Planet-X is quite relaxed, the Cannondale is a race frame,

eh? if anything the PX has less relaxed geometry than the ‘dale S6

The most marked difference is the price. The PX geometry is perfectly good enough to race on. maybe not neo-pro enough for many aspiring “racers”

Hey I never started a thread asking for opinion’s then took a hissy fit when I got ones I didn’t like.

Those Planet-X are rubbish frames, renowned for being flexy with poor handling characteristics when pushed hard.

form an opinion before pausing and reading properly.

Re-read what I wrote for you yet? 😆

my admission on communication failure early on

Well done. Have you sent Al the money yet?

dragon I asked a specific question frame v frame.

I didn’t ask about years of mountain bike stuff or veiled insults from the likes of Brian from Barnstable or whatever youre called.

If I had received say >10 of yes its better because, no its negligible then I’d have moved forward very quickly.

This is the thing with forums, you’ve got to take the floaters with the smooth.

really? in whose world is the cannondale more relaxed?

Looking at Large PX v 58 Dale HA/SA are v.similar 0.5degree out on one measurement) and TT equally so.

The standover doesn’t matter really as I’ve got a 33instep etc.

True assumptions?

rOcKeTdOg
i think a “I’m not sure” email to Al would have been better than a “i’m not sure” thread, Al hates me but even I wouldn’t do that to him

I don’t hate you, I don’t understand why you stalk me and troll me though.

A 58″ dale frame will be too big, if you only have a 33″ inside leg.

I fail to see how its only 4cm difference between my current and the Dale.

My world!

You haven’t ridden both frames have you, Dirtyrider?

cynic-al – Member
rOcKeTdOg
i think a “I’m not sure” email to Al would have been better than a “i’m not sure” thread, Al hates me but even I wouldn’t do that to him
I don’t hate you, I don’t understand why you stalk me and troll me though.

I think it’s been so long neither of us know why, I’ve been purposely avoiding replying to threads that u start in an effort for peace,I’m happy to draw a line under it & make a fresh start, life’s to short etc. Ball is in your court.

You haven’t ridden both frames have you, Dirtyrider?

i’ve owned both, i know its hard to wade into an internet argument with actual facts, but there you go

if the pro-carbon is a race frame, (of course, you can race on it, you can race on anything) then why do they make the et-57, and market that as a race frame, with race geometry?

Didn’t Blant say it the Korean designer made it to be stiffer?

Without wishing to be disrespectful, I doubt you or indeed most of us on here have much of an issue of frame flex caused by the levels of power we generate on a roadbike. The bike you should ride is the one that fits you best and you’re happy doing the miles on. And it does take miles and miles and miles to get good at road biking.

So what if the PX flexes a bit and you don’t get a PB on that Strava segment? Personally, and I’m by no means a light rider, I’ve never had an issue with the PX. Bloody good bike for the money.

Make a decision and we can all get on with things.

dragon – Member

A 58″ dale frame will be too big, if you only have a 33″ inside leg.

35.5″ pelvis to floor here, it felt about right, you may have a point.