Planetx Pro Carbon to a SuperSix (or other)- tell the difference?

OK I could pop into a shop a try their Supersix but I wouldn’t be buying (or intending to) and that isn’t fair.

If I frameswap my pro carbon to the Supersix would I feel much difference as a average Joe?

Finally listening to stw and changing my wheels/tyres to GP4000’s felt a huge difference. Would F&F feel that much? Or more subtle (but worth it).

Went from SL Pro to TCR Advanced SL. Absolute stupid difference. Average up, used less gears, climbed more in the big ring and during the first race on it, I did actually let out a laugh just after putting my foot down.

But Hora, you’ve already agreed to buy my Supersix?

Yes just making sure as its a big leap in roadie for me 🙂

We have an agreement, just pay me and I’ll post it.

isn’t the Planet X a flexy noodly hell? I’d imagine the supersix is worlds apart

Its sold when the money is paid. Until then I’m sure you’d sell it. I’m hesitating as I want to be sure. Surely you could understand that.

Surprisingly I dont find it flexy at all- weird as the only review I could find said the front was.

Oh dear. ..

Erm…no…we have a contract, which I would normally stick by, please don’t deride my character with your failings.

Depends on the colour. Black and white ones are fastest

Oh dear. ..

Indeed. Sell to someone else. In all my time selling stuff in the classifieds I’ve never pushed or chased a sale. If it happens it happens, I’ll just sell it on ebay etc or keep. I didn’t reply back to your last email when I said ‘would you take’ partly as I was unsure if an average Joe would feel any difference in the ride.

You could have simply posted on here ‘look from experience or what you’ve heard its a great frame, smooth etc and you wouldn’t be going far wrong/a good improvement so definitely get it bought/dont lose out’.

But wouldn’t that be “pushing” or “chasing” a sale?

You made me an offer, which I accepted, you then ignored my emsil (rather than saying “I’m having second thoughts” etc).

All I’m doing here is pointing out facts…

Seems like there may be a lack of internet purchasing integrity on display here…….

FWIW the difference from that crappy PX frame to an Evo will be night and day

(rather than saying “I’m having second thoughts” etc)

Communication breakdown on my behalf there- I was holding off replying to that email whilst mulling it over.

Mulling over should occur before making offer!

Because road riding is so new to me every decision is dwelled on. I’d have gone through two frames and three forks Renton-style in such time on mtb..

Hora I think a carbon Synapse may be a better frame for you.

How must this SS frame be feeling about this huge debacle? Pretty horrible I bet, poor thing.

I went from a TCR Adv Sl to a Planet X Rt57. The only difference I could tell was I was no longer petrified of dropping it so I could actually ‘race’ rather than riding around very very carefully.
Also it fitted and handled better.

every decision is dwelled on.

Except the one to make the offer to buy in the first place?

No one objects to you dithering but to basically assume cynic-al is ok with a “I may or may not buy it but don’t sell it to anyone else while I decide” approach isn’t the done thing.

I thought practice makes perfect, how does Hora not know how buying things works?

I’m selling the PlanetX. I consider it sold when its gone.

Someone I know recently went to look at the PX pro carbon but ended up with one of the alloy framed bikes as the frame was lighter.
I would imagine the supersix will be lighter.
Another mate has a pro carbon and he loves it.
Horses for courses…

I did exactly that. Moved from a PX CSL to a Cannondale Supersix hi-mod about 2 years ago.

The cannondale is a far nicer bike to ride, makes me far more confident on the descents as the planet x did occasionally suffer from an intense speed wobble (more to do with keeping myself over the front of the bike rather than off the back on descents as I was used to mtbing).

The supersix is lighter and stiffer in important areas and along with some new wheels is a completely different ride.

I could pop into a shop a try their Supersix but I wouldn’t be buying (or intending to) and that isn’t fair

Whereas agreeing to buy Al’s bike, when you don’t necessarily intend to, is totally above board.

It’s another addition to the list of “why I’ll never sell anything to Hora”.

Hi. Contribute or get off a thread.

If you want to rewind- not replying to a email is bad communication, I didn’t say ok deal will send you the money right now. If I did then silence then fine. However not replying to ‘ok I’ll do it for that price’ is just bad form but not the end of the earth.

Posting negatively on a topic that doesn’t help the OP to come to a decision that he admits he is wavering on does really help does it? I don’t think theres anything that I’d want to buy from you so we are both quids in.

If I had a quid for all those that ask for pictures, questions and on price but then never comeback to me.. I’ve bought and sold alot of secondhand kit and it comes with the process.

It doesn’t bother me. I think if I was getting bitter and looking to pick at everything it would.

There is a huge difference in not replying to an email and making an offer and having it accepted and then not replying.

So I mull it over, post a ‘not sure/help on making it the right decision’ on here before going ahead and I’m now an arch villain. Nice.

Apple for that high horse?

I’ve already admitted I could have used/use better communication with the seller yet you want to get bitter on his behalf?

Sorry, sometimes buyers can be unsure or even change their minds entirely.

If you want to attack someone and keep on going over the same point repeatedly its not contributing to the thread is it? I’ve already admitted to a communication slip up. What else do you want?

High horse?

You should make the decision prior to making an offer to buy. If someone makes me an offer and i accept i consider it sold and mentally make plans to blow the money.

Perhaps ive got it all wrong or perhaps i havent the saddle is high up here and its hard to see.

Secondhand classifieds sale- the item isn’t sold until its paid for.

Do me a favour, in future dont reply to any topic I start. I don’t think you’d be offering me anything that would answer my topic or be of value to me. You’d just be psychological noise.

As i side note id say from your prev posts something a little higher up the front would work better like the synapse or something similar

where’s that ‘Michael Jackson eating popcorn’ GIF when you need it?

hora – Member
So I mull it over, post a ‘not sure/help on making it the right decision’ on here before going ahead and I’m now an arch villain. Nice.

i think a “I’m not sure” email to Al would have been better than a “i’m not sure” thread, Al hates me but even I wouldn’t do that to him

Ah true colours i see. I even drove to Manchester area once to meet you with a near new onone frame despite a load of pics to show condition as you dithered im really glad i did that for you and a 80 quid frame. I’ll chalk that up to experience 😉 have a nice day

You made an offer it was accepted, contract made, your in the wrong hora. If your going to break the deal apologise to cynic and move on. But don’t expect other people not to take not and use it to make judgements on your character.

i think a “I’m not sure” email to Al would have been better than a “i’m not sure” thread, Al hates me but even I wouldn’t do that to him

As I said – I admitted this quite early on. So why raise it again?

This is what I posted over an hour:

Communication breakdown on my behalf there- I was holding off replying to that email whilst mulling it over.

I’ve already admitted that I was at fault. Dwelling and attacking on this isn’t really helping. Its just negativity (for fun) I imagine.

The On One frame- I had loads of people after that due to the price/condition. Even ‘dibs’- It sold when it sold.

I was offered (and hounded) on pinkbike overnight by someone offering me £100 for my F&F- with ‘I can collect tonight with cash’. Its part of the selling process.

If I’ve admitted a fault, how can you still attack? Nothing as queer as internet folk.

Hora. how much have you ridden the PX ?

I was on about a frame i sold you ad it goes but anyway

Back on track. I recently got a planet x rt57 and was a bit concerned re the size as it felt a bit big and felt funny. But the other day i had a basic bike fit in leeds. Initial phys assessment some measurements then cleat position. Saddle height changed fore/aft altered and stem changed its now like an armchair its really really comfy and definitely feels much better. The fit was only the basic so no video tracking or cleat shims or shoe insoles but well worth the £60 fee all i needed to change was a cheap stem. Certainly the best money ive spent on a road bike. Id highly recommend it as ut feels like a different bike completely and i know it fits where as i could have swapped for another that didn’t fit and have the same problems

Hora. how much have you ridden the PX ?

Not much really (i.e no commuting):

One Sportive
The Sportive again after the event
Manchester To Huddersfield and back to watch the Tour
3ish round hills rides around the hills and tops of Huddersfield.
A few Cheshire lane (summer rides)

I know there can be an immediate and obvious difference between the feel etc of mtb frames at budget to good etc – but road frames when they are both so light?

firestarter- at the start I should have done that and it took abit of trial and error to get to the right feel.

Whoa, really not very cool Hora. Anyway, you won’t find much difference, except something else won’t be quite right *for you* and we’ll get to hear all about it. Yay.