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http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2737230/Into-each-life-a-little-crane-will-fall.html

Something badly wrong there. There's all sorts of alarms and systems in those cranes to stop that happening. I'd say the driver is squarely to blame.


 
Posted : 19/11/2009 2:15 pm
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Blimey!


 
Posted : 19/11/2009 2:55 pm
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That's a rare example of a really pleasing punning headline. 🙂


 
Posted : 19/11/2009 2:56 pm
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They should have used [url= http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/crane-simulator-2009-review ]This[/url] first 🙂


 
Posted : 19/11/2009 2:57 pm
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That a bad accident. Your right in that these things do have massive amounts of monitors showing wind speed, SLI's etc, but there are often factors that the driver cannot anticipate. I;ve seen a crane accident where the ground gave way under one of the outriggers.

Whoever did the birthing plan will be shitting himself no doubt.


 
Posted : 19/11/2009 3:57 pm
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Good job they cut down that tree it could have blown onto the house in a storm.


 
Posted : 19/11/2009 4:05 pm
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Why were they using a crane to lift the tree over the house? Why didn't they just bacon slice it? They can't have been wanting to use it for timber as it's got a massive bend in it.


 
Posted : 19/11/2009 4:15 pm
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Agree about the alarms.
I use to be low paid builder when I was student. However the building site manager did spot I was more brain than brawn, so I use to manage the crane and to to help with the tracing.
The crane would start buzzing and stop pulling up the hook if the weight was above 1500kg.
I'll send that to a riding buddy who actually build crane for a living to see what he things of it 😀


 
Posted : 19/11/2009 4:25 pm
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Totally the crane companys fault

A lift this size is alway a contract lift. They should ensure every precaution is in place before they start the lift an monitor everything during the lift.

First thing I can see is that the crane was in the wrong position making the out riggers ineffective.

I take it the second crane is rescuing the first one.


 
Posted : 19/11/2009 4:34 pm
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Why were they using a crane to lift the tree over the house?

Because they're yanks............and using a sledgehammer to crack a nut is always the best solution.


 
Posted : 19/11/2009 4:39 pm
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First thing I can see is that the crane was in the wrong position making the out riggers ineffective.

Since the supported distance from the base of the jib to the horizontal axis of the rear outriggers [s]rear axle[/s] is longer than the distance from the base of the jib to the outside of the outrigger, for distance support purposes they had the crane orientated the right way round. They just didnt calculate the moment around the line of the rear outriggers [s]rear wheel[/s] as a pivot correctly.


 
Posted : 19/11/2009 4:44 pm
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All I can say, is that if they try to right that crane now, it's going to come up with a big wallop and flick the 'rescue crane' bak over into the blue house. I'll keep an eye out in the paper......


 
Posted : 19/11/2009 4:46 pm
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They just didnt calculate the moment around the rear wheel as a pivot correctly.

Is that what happened here too ?

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Posted : 19/11/2009 4:48 pm
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couple of big blokes sat on the front bumper of the crane and they'd have been fine...


 
Posted : 19/11/2009 4:51 pm
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😀


 
Posted : 19/11/2009 4:51 pm
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I like that they appear to have a second crane there.
Presumably to pull the first crane out 😀

Anyone got the sequence of cranes falling into the harbour in Ireland - that always makes me lol too.


 
Posted : 19/11/2009 4:53 pm
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ah well, winner for the owners - the main house is fine, and they'll get a hefty payout from the crane company('s insurance).

and presumably the tree will get removed with the crane!


 
Posted : 19/11/2009 4:56 pm
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Just read Construction News cranes are always falling over.


 
Posted : 19/11/2009 5:11 pm
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Apparantly the crane was 'shockloaded' when the tree snapped when being lifted.


 
Posted : 19/11/2009 5:39 pm
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Still shouldn't cause that as those types of cranes even at 80% of thier stated lift capacity are still well within their ability to lift safely.

Somebody got their sums wrong


 
Posted : 19/11/2009 6:31 pm
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Anyone got the sequence of cranes falling into the harbour in Ireland - that always makes me lol too.

No, but I like this one, especially the lack of hard hats and high vis jackets. [img] [/img]


 
Posted : 19/11/2009 6:43 pm
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Since the supported distance from the base of the jib to the horizontal axis of the rear outriggers rear axle is longer than the distance from the base of the jib to the outside of the outrigger, for distance support purposes they had the crane orientated the right way round. They just didnt calculate the moment around the line of the rear outriggers rear wheel as a pivot correctly.

you've just f*Cked my head up 😉


 
Posted : 19/11/2009 6:46 pm
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They extended the long pointy bit too far 🙄

anyway I like this one

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Posted : 19/11/2009 7:08 pm
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Can't see any counterweight on the crane.
looks like a 150 with a little fly on it.


 
Posted : 19/11/2009 7:18 pm
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The Irish one:

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See http://www.snopes.com/photos/accident/crane.asp


 
Posted : 19/11/2009 7:33 pm
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kuco that video is pure class, £10k car wrecks £250k worth of crane. 😆


 
Posted : 19/11/2009 7:36 pm
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it,s been doctored the second wagon never went in , also if you have the room where your siting the crane you always try to lift over the back of the crane, but it will lift to it's max 360 degrees and in this country the crane has to lift upto 125% while being tested for it's 4yr test .


 
Posted : 19/11/2009 9:59 pm
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it,s been doctored the second wagon never went in

Indeed, which is why I posted the snopes.com link that says exactly that. 🙂

Still funny tho 😆


 
Posted : 20/11/2009 9:54 am
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If you want to see a truely scary crane crash watch this and turn up the volume.

The sound of the main slew pin snapping does not bode well!

[url= http://craneaccidents.com/bigblue.mpg ]Crane Crash[/url]


 
Posted : 20/11/2009 1:52 pm
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i watched that big blue one earlier, nasty.


 
Posted : 20/11/2009 2:40 pm
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[i]it,s been doctored the second wagon never went in , also if you have the room where your siting the crane you always try to lift over the back of the crane, but it will lift to it's max 360 degrees and in this country the crane has to lift upto 125% while being tested for it's 4yr test . [/i]

Or you can just look at the photos and see it's poorly photoshoped.


 
Posted : 20/11/2009 5:32 pm
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Weird... I googled 'crane buzz' and this thread came up, so I thought Id ask you guys;
I live in the centre of Malaga and have one of those remote controlled cranes near.
At exactly 7AM it starts buzzing REALLY F*#KING LOUDLY
Why is it doing that and should it be doing that?


 
Posted : 22/09/2010 5:46 am
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Are you talking about the alarm to warn you that it's moving? If so, I guess it's because it's moving and the guys are working.


 
Posted : 22/09/2010 6:05 am
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All I can say, is that if they try to right that crane now, it's going to come up with a big wallop and flick the 'rescue crane' bak over into the blue house. I'll keep an eye out in the paper......

I wouldn't bother, its not recent. that picture has been doing the rounds for years.


 
Posted : 22/09/2010 6:41 am
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Looks to me like the crane driver was incompetent/reckless, but why did the developer build a house so close to a 150 yr old tree (or however old it was at the time)?

It looks to me like they needed the crane to stop the heavy bows of the tree falling on the house, but the chainsaw man chopped off more than the crane could handle.

The clean slice through the building just shows you how flimsy and insubstantial those houses are.


 
Posted : 22/09/2010 10:44 am
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Luckily the crane driver is now working on the Commonwealth Games infrastructure so no danger around here 🙂


 
Posted : 22/09/2010 10:48 am
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It looks like an extension, so the owners could've built it without proper approval.

US houses are slightly built, but so what? That particular accident would still have made a right mess of a brick built house. Plus, there's a school of thought that says if you live in tornado alley, you want a flimsy house so that when it does collapse you don't get crushed by a hundred tons of bricks.


 
Posted : 22/09/2010 10:56 am
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The buzzing may well be the lift carrying the driver to his cab.


 
Posted : 23/09/2010 10:00 pm
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You've got to laugh haven't you?


 
Posted : 23/09/2010 10:16 pm
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A lift this size is alway a contract lift

no its not, neither in UK or USA. Ive managed much bigger cranes / lifts myself.

First thing I can see is that the crane was in the wrong position making the out riggers ineffective

no its not
would lift through 360 degrees anyway

tell you what though, the neighbours garden furniture must be visable from space!


 
Posted : 23/09/2010 10:48 pm
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[i]First thing I can see is that the crane was in the wrong position making the out riggers ineffective[/i]

Why? As far as I can see it's on level hard standing with no visible underground or over ground services. It just tried to lift to a heavy load over that sort of radius.


 
Posted : 23/09/2010 11:05 pm
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Curse of the fly jib strikes again!!


 
Posted : 24/09/2010 5:39 am
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I couldn't have subscribed to this thread...
****ing thing is still buzzing EVERY morning. It started 7am today (sunday)!


 
Posted : 26/09/2010 6:43 am