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[Closed] Benefit fraudster.... Do i report him?

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There is a guy who lives in a street opposite me, he always has cars outside his house and people come and go buying them, he parks them on public land etc.

He doesnt work and he walks really bad - id say about 40 ish. I believe he is on benefits according to neighbours he also lives in a council house which if he is on benefits will be subsidised.

Anyway - I found his account on ebay selling all sorts including vans, cars, fishing equipment, power tools etc

The question is do i shop him and leave the authorities to decide if he is doing wrong or just ignore him and carry on boiling about working and paying my way in the world?


 
Posted : 19/11/2009 3:09 pm
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Report- if hes not doing anything wrong, he has nothing to worry about


 
Posted : 19/11/2009 3:11 pm
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Do what you like mate. Don't wait for peer approval.


 
Posted : 19/11/2009 3:12 pm
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Im in two minds really - firstly he is actually quite disabled and shuffles around, so he is just doing what he can to top up his money and supply for his kid, however if he can manage to do stuff with chainsaws and other power tools he must be able to lift and do some sort of job.


 
Posted : 19/11/2009 3:16 pm
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Report him - the DSS will do chuff all.

Chap who lives by us claim and runs a successful landscaping business - he's even working for the Highways Agency as a contractor. 😯


 
Posted : 19/11/2009 3:17 pm
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if you go over and kneecap him he deffinately wont be able to do any more jobs on the side!

id say leave the poor bugger alone


 
Posted : 19/11/2009 3:18 pm
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I would report him. Why should he get benefits and a wage? If he is clearly capable of working?


 
Posted : 19/11/2009 3:24 pm
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if the neighbours say it, it must be true!

that said, if more people were comfortable informing the relevant authorities about fraud and the like, our society would run much smoother.


 
Posted : 19/11/2009 3:26 pm
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My first reaction is to call it in.


 
Posted : 19/11/2009 3:28 pm
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Blackmail? Just a thought...


 
Posted : 19/11/2009 3:30 pm
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You're paying his benefits. Are you happy with that?


 
Posted : 19/11/2009 3:31 pm
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keep your ****ing nose out of other peoples business............. 😀


 
Posted : 19/11/2009 3:36 pm
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If he is claiming sick and he can run an EBAY account he aint sick. If he is noto n sick and he can run an EBAY business then he can get a ****ing job. Dont mind helping those who need it but do object to people having their cake and eating MINE.

[url= http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/MoneyTaxAndBenefits/BenefitsTaxCreditsAndOtherSupport/BenefitFraud/DG_10014876 ]how to guide[/url]


 
Posted : 19/11/2009 3:36 pm
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that said, if more people were comfortable informing the relevant authorities about fraud and the like, our society would run much smoother.

Damn 60 years too late, otherwise you could have applied for a job at the gestapo.


 
Posted : 19/11/2009 3:37 pm
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Just get on with your life.

How will stopping someone from using inventive ways to top up the meagre income they receive from benefits help anyone ?

There are approx 2.5 million unemployed in the UK today (because greedy money grabbing bankers ****ed-up) if a disabled guy can make do on benefit plus flogging the odd thing here and there, why would you want to force him into work or rob him of the right to make a few extra bob ?

[i]"if hes not doing anything wrong, he has nothing to worry about[/i]"

Says who ?..............have you not heard of "bureaucracy" ?


 
Posted : 19/11/2009 3:41 pm
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Report him. I'm having the tax relief on my childcare vouchers cut to pay for these work shy ####s.


 
Posted : 19/11/2009 3:42 pm
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either call it in, or send me back my share of his benefits (0.00001p, but ide still like it back please)

😉


 
Posted : 19/11/2009 3:43 pm
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Interesting cross section of opinion.

THink i'll hold off for now till he next parks one of his 3 cars for sale on the grass in front of my house again - doesnt help his situation that he is a tosser otherwise I may have some sympathy for him.


 
Posted : 19/11/2009 3:46 pm
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Report him - the DSS will do chuff all.

With the overwhelming portfolio of evidence how could they not convict him? 😉


 
Posted : 19/11/2009 3:48 pm
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😉

think i might find stiff competition from the other posters on this wonderfully liberal thread.


 
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doesnt help his situation that he is a tosser

You should have said that in the first place.............grass the **** up.


 
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Sounds like another leach on society, Keep paying your taxes and when you get up early to go to work, have a look at his house bet his curtains are shut and he is still in bed. 😈


 
Posted : 19/11/2009 3:56 pm
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Report him, just because he's disabled doesn't mean he cant work, no sympathy on that score. Just leave an anonymous message http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/MoneyTaxAndBenefits/BenefitsTaxCreditsAndOtherSupport/BenefitFraud/DG_10014876


 
Posted : 19/11/2009 3:57 pm
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Kick the little man eh? What are you going to do to all the super rich that brought the country to it's knees? NOTHING I presume, but you'll happly make this poor chaps existance even worse?


 
Posted : 19/11/2009 4:01 pm
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What’s the colour of his skin?
Obviously anyone so concerned as to whether a cripple is actually trying to do something other than sit at home and feel sorry for himself needs to make a judgment based on *all* the facts.
Or, and here’s a thought, just man the &^%$ up, tell him to stop parking his crap on the public lawn and get on with your life.

And yes, I’ll go take my meds now.


 
Posted : 19/11/2009 5:42 pm
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Depends what sort of benefits he's on... Some types of disability benefit allow people to earn a up to a certain amount quite legally.

As a general principle, I would not report anyone simply for attempting to make their lives a little easier, unless they were causing obvious harm to another. (And yes, I'm quite happy for my taxes to fund those who feel unable to sign up for 'voluntary slavery'.)


 
Posted : 19/11/2009 8:28 pm
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****er, leave the cripple alone


 
Posted : 19/11/2009 8:35 pm
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Karma.?


 
Posted : 19/11/2009 8:40 pm
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How will stopping someone from using inventive ways to top up the meagre income they receive from benefits help anyone ?

That's not what's happening here though is it. It seems to me that the guy has an income already and just wants to top it up by claiming benefits as well. In a poorly paid job ? Tough sh1t, get retrained or educated and do something about it.

FWIW, I bet there's probably more people around hiding self employed income from the tax man than there are people fiddling benefits, although this guy could be doing both.


 
Posted : 19/11/2009 9:02 pm
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drop him in it

seems perfectly capable of working, if he's claiming benefits he probably won't be paying any tax or rates like any other self-employed person/business


 
Posted : 19/11/2009 9:02 pm
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How would you feel if he does get done, fined, with a custodial / community sentence. He would be struggling even more, his child would suffer. Would you be happy, proud even, or feel like a bit of a dick?


 
Posted : 19/11/2009 9:17 pm
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There are approx 2.5 million unemployed in the UK today (because greedy money grabbing bankers ****ed-up)

Some of them are actually work shy lazy ****ers not all just some. If you are playing the system then tough. If your not then everything is fine. (I think there is a reward for shopping cheats)

and as everyone keeps saying as soon as those money grabbing bankers lend us loads more money to buy big houses we cant afford and everything else on credit the world will be right again


 
Posted : 19/11/2009 9:26 pm
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shop the ****


 
Posted : 19/11/2009 9:33 pm
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Shop him, did it to some neighbours a few years ago who had a housing association house and they both worked full time and claimed benefit really stiffing for every penny. Turned them in, they were evicted in 2weeks.


 
Posted : 19/11/2009 9:39 pm
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Before you go reporting him, how do you know he is not reporting any profits he makes when he sells something?

My instinct would be not to make someone's shitty life even shittier.


 
Posted : 19/11/2009 9:40 pm
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+1 Direct your energy into making your life better, not someone else's worse.


 
Posted : 19/11/2009 9:49 pm
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There are approx 2.5 million unemployed in the UK today

It's acutally more than double that but Nu Labour have a canny way of massaging the truth!

Anyway back to our fraudster:

Does he pay tax on his ebay trading? I bet not. No doubt if you reported him there would be a full investigation and if okay he'd be exonerated.

If he's a thieving **** then he can go swing.

Almost every commercial property has to have disabled access. If he can limp down the street and make a few bob, he can bloody well work for his state income.


 
Posted : 19/11/2009 9:50 pm
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If you saw someone stealing from a shop would you say anything?
What about if they were stealing from an old lady?
A crimes a crime - anonymous tip all the way.


 
Posted : 19/11/2009 9:53 pm
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Shop him!


 
Posted : 19/11/2009 9:54 pm
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shop him..


 
Posted : 19/11/2009 9:56 pm
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report him. if not in breach nowt to fear but probably taking the mick.


 
Posted : 19/11/2009 9:57 pm
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Glad I don't live in the Uk anymore jeez.

It's 1984 there 🙄


 
Posted : 19/11/2009 10:04 pm
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There are approx 2.5 million unemployed in the UK today (because greedy money grabbing bankers ****ed-up)

Utter tosh from Ernie again. Unemployment stayed at about 1.5M during 01 through to end 08. Since the financial crisis its risen to just under 2.5M. Therefore 1M could possibly be attributed to incompetent bankers.


 
Posted : 19/11/2009 10:23 pm
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The guy being a tosser and working while claiming benefits are two different things. If he pisses you off by parking inconsiderately then talk to him. However his finances are his business not yours.

When the thieving c * * *s we have running this country start setting the correct example then perhaps we can start to deal with benefit fraudsters etc.


 
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"There are approx 2.5 million unemployed in the UK today"

[b]It's acutally more than double that but Nu Labour have a canny way of massaging the truth![/b]

Actually the figure of 2.46 million unemployed isn't a "Nu Labour" government figure. It is the figure as defined by the ILO. The ILO is a completely neutral Geneva based United Nations agency. It has absolutely no axe to grind, and it's definition of "unemployment" is internationally recognised in countries throughout the world.

I think you might be confusing with the claimant count for those on unemployment benefit - the preferred way of counting employment for Tory governments. That figure stands at 1.64 million.

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Utter tosh from Ernie again. Unemployment stayed at about 1.5M during 01 through to end 08. Since the financial crisis its risen to just under 2.5M. Therefore 1M could possibly be attributed to incompetent bankers.

And ? So what ? ........unemployment stands at approximately 2.5 million [i]precisely[/i] because the bankers ****ed-up - you yourself openly admit that unemployment would be one million less, if it wasn't for incompetent bankers ****ing up ....... *rolls eyes*

And yes, the higher the level of unemployment, the harder it is to find a job.

BTW : [i]"Utter tosh from Ernie again"[/i]......... you need to relax and not get so excited mate .......I think you might be attaching more importance to my posts than they deserve.


 
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