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  • Nicolai Ion 650b, opinions/what does it ride like?
  • gaz552
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    I’m doing what I reckon is probably the usual thing mtb’ers do when we’re chilling out; and looking at potential new bikes!

    So as the title says what are people’s opinions on the Nicolai Ion 16 650b? What does it ride like?

    engineeringcowboy
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    I should have mine built up in a couple of weeks if you want to swing your leg over it

    godzilla
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    Bump, mine is being built slowly, would love to hear from owners.
    Raw & black.

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    nicolaisam
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    Had mine for over a year 😉
    Raw and Red extras

    Excellent bike, pedals well,is fun
    Built with Pikes, Reverb 150mm, X01,Hope Hubs with light Bicyles 35mm carbon rims. Dampf.magic mary tyres, X0 Trail Brakes.
    I am 6ft 2 and ride a large.Is 30lbs with pedals

    godzilla
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    How’s the raw weathering Sam, is that a Monarch and if so what tune is it?

    honourablegeorge
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    Had my 26″ one in Raw for 2 years ish, looks pretty much the same as new.

    wrecker
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    Are you thinking of……..selling, George?

    honourablegeorge
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    Selling? No… stupidly wasted my money on a new house, so I’m staying 26″ for the foreseeable. 🙂

    If I was buying 650, I would be getting an Ion 16 again.

    (Why… interested?)

    wrecker
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    Bought a nic HT and I have got the bug. Trouble is, the HT has made my trail FS a bi of a luxury, I’d be better off with something a bit more burly. Keeping an eye open for knolly chilcotins but a sister for the argon AM would be splendid!
    I’d need to move the LTc on first though and I’m in no rush.

    godzilla
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    Wrecker, the dealer in Germany i got mine from did have large another for a stupid cheap price.

    wrecker
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    Who might that be Godzilla if you don’t mind me asking? And how stupid is stupid?

    godzilla
    Free Member

    I’ve PMd you

    honourablegeorge
    Full Member

    PM ME TOO

    🙂

    wrecker
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    Don’t do it Godzilla! He’s already got one!

    godzilla
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    I don’t care I’ve got mine 8)

    jools182
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    And me! 🙂

    nicolaisam
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    Raw finish is still looking really good.

    Monarch plus, is running low/low,Just ordered a Debonair air can for it and needs servicing soon.

    Monarch works really well.

    godzilla
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    Awesome! Mine came with a L/L Debonair, I’ve a CCDBA too but I may sell that.
    Did you make your own rock guard Sam?

    duir
    Free Member

    ride a large.Is 30lbs with pedals

    Really? My Helius AC which is .5lbs lighter frame than the ION is 31.5lbs. Those wheels must be well light.

    I have been looking at a new bike and for all the lovely, light and trendy carbon bikes around, I always end up back at a Nicolai. They are just so durable and reliable with a build quality second to none.

    The raw is brilliant because if you leave it alone it builds up a sort of film on it I guess it’s oxidisation that makes even more extra industrial looking. No matter how many times it get’s whacked or scratched it doesn’t look any different.

    Nicolai’s are not 25lb carbon race machines.

    Nicolai’s are in one piece after a day in the mountains.

    honourablegeorge
    Full Member

    My Ion is a smidge over 30 also – carbon wheels and Pikes would get it to mid 29s I’d say.

    nicolaisam
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    Wheels weigh 1600g and the rims are 35mm outer, 30mm inner.
    30lbs inc pedals for a 160mm bike..Happy with that
    Have had a few AC’s good trail bike

    Made the Rock guard from a ZEFAL MTB DOWN TUBE ARMOR and some use of a Dremmel and a cordless drill.

    duir
    Free Member

    30lbs, those wheels really save a chunk of weight. Do you use light tyres to get that weight or is that with proper tyres?

    Do you find the light wheels are holding up? Seriously worth a look to save a couple of lbs. I tend to go with a set of 521’s I have had for years with EXO or dual ply rear tyres, it’s a heavy setup but the 521’s can take an utter pounding here in the Lakes without issue.

    If I could get an ION to 30lbs I would be delighted with that.

    godzilla
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    I’ll be lucky to mine to 32, I dread to think what alpine worthy 27.5 tyres add.

    nicolaisam
    Free Member

    Magic Mary Snakeskin up front, and Dampf snakeskin at the rear.

    Tubeless

    godzilla
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    Just deciding what crank length to order (170-175) and can’t find the BB height, what crank length are you guys running, and do you find the BB low/ pedal strike on tech stuff?

    philbert31
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    They’re great to ride, solid built and in my opinion look great.

    Mines had a reverb and spds since this pic and its 31.5lb

    philbert31
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    Godzilla, I’m running 170mm although 175 would be fine!

    godzilla
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    I vaguely remember admiring that bike or one similar at the Ardrock last year, love the green!

    bspoked
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    Two rides into mine. Lots of pedal strikes after moving from a 140/120 trail bike. Confidence on the downs, feels slow on the ups for now. Still playing with rear shock and seat position. Contemplating switching the geometry tabs, but conscious that I’m trying to get comfortable for it for the alps in 5 weeks.

    philbert31
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    Yes, I was at the Ard rock, dying on the bike, after only getting back from a two week trip to Vegas the night before! lol

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