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Noticed that Canyon have released a Strive CF 9 SL version.
[url= http://www.canyon.com/en/mountainbikes/bike.html?b=3512 ]Canyon strive CF 9 SL[/url]
It comes with a full 2015 XTR groupset, which is lovely...apart for that chainset. Oh my what were they thinking?
The old M980 XTR chainset was a work of art. Is it just me or is that new one awful? I'm sure its light stiff etc and the glossy finish is nice, but the design makes it look like a shiny Deore.
Still can't see why you would buy the XTR chainset, heavier than the other "Race" sets, kind of misses the point.
I quite like it. Hope it fits ok to my new frame as I've heard there are fit issues with some frames
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I think they look really good.
Back to the old polished M960 version of yore 🙂
And what it looks like when you've actually used it
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If we're talking aesthetics, all downhill since this;
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Does it really matter?
I mean you won't have to look at it while your riding, and once you get off and stick it on the roof it's got the right letters on it so everyone else will know how wealthy you are...
I'd say it's perfectly fit for purpose, if aesthetics really matter, buy something prettier like a Middleburn...
M970 is still where it's at. Just looks like really good cranks, no pissing about.
@CFH, yup that M900 was the best looking Shimano chainset. Almost looks like jewelry.
On a side note, some fella in Knutsford has 'M900 XTR' as a number plate on his Porsche.
Would rather have a RF Turbine Cinch.
I think every time a new XTR chainset has been launched in the last 15 years people have said they are ugly when they come out then they have got used to them.
Eurgh. Spider arms look like plastic wheel trims from Halfords budget range.
munrobiker - Member
I think every time a new XTR chainset has been launched in the last 15 years people have said they are ugly when they come out then they have got used to them.
It's the same as nobody got fired for buying IBM, or people still buy a 3 series etc. It might not be the best but it's been drummed into people as the choice.
It's the same as nobody got fired for buying IBM, or people still buy a 3 series etc. It might not be the best but it's been drummed into people as the choice
See also - GoreTex.
M950 was the best looking for me. I've disliked M960/70/80 in the photos, but each one has looked awesome in the flesh IMO, I suspect this will look a lot better IRL.
heavier than the other "Race" sets, kind of misses the point.
It's heavier than a Next SL, but vastly cheaper, and Next SLs don't fit all bikes. It's also really quite cheap, half the price of a Next SL. Same weight as XX1.
Regardless of what it looks like it doesn't have the range of X01 so FAIL.
Looks like I'll be sticking with 2x10 then as I don't like SRAM enough to change.
ohh I didnt realise they were actually quite cheap (for XTR). Tweeks are taking pre-orders for £199
[url= http://www.tweekscycles.com/components/mtb-chainsets-cranks/shimano-xtr-m9000-trail-crank-arms ]cheap XTR cranks[/url]
Maybe they are starting to grow on me 🙂
The BB is a bit smaller so you need a different installation tool to normal. Not the internal diameter obviously.
ohh I didnt realise they were actually quite cheap (for XTR). Tweeks are taking pre-orders for £199cheap XTR cranks
Add another £100 if you actually want any chainrings though!
http://www.tweekscycles.com/components/mtb-chainsets-cranks/shimano-xtr-m9000-race-double-chainset
Regardless of what it looks like it doesn't have the range of X01 so FAIL.
The chainset doesn't 😕
Never mind the cranks, that Canyon is lovely
The chainset doesn't
I meant the groupset - I don't think anyone is going to run XTR cranks with X01 everything else - or are they?
Regardless of what is looks like it has closer ratios than X01 so WIN.
So does alivio - save yourself some cash
I love it when new Shimano stuff comes out.
*buys last year's Shimano for peanuts*
Wasn't that crank in X-Men? 😯
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What CFH said (as ever) and this:
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Yawn.
Wait until you see it, then comment! Same every new generation.
The "spider" is actually the nuts of the chainring bolts I believe.
The "spider" is actually the nuts of the chainring bolts I believe.
Or maybe just some plastic caps over them.
There are pics of it looking like that part has been removed.
Looks much better imo.
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M960 for FTW
Got a couple of old sets of cut down M960s, but looking forward to getting some of these to complete my 1x11 XTR on my FS bike. It's lovely!
Yawn.
Wait until you see it, then comment! Same every new generation
Seen it. It's fugly.
It does look better without the horrendous covers. Still asymetric, bulbous and ugly though. And needs its own special BCD for no apparent reason, so it can **** off.
And needs its own special BCD for no apparent reason, so it can **** off.
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What's the deal with chain retention on the 1x version? Shimano claims it has some - it's not marrow/wide though, is it just longer teeth and ugly stupid-BCD rings?
What's the deal with chain retention on the 1x version? Shimano claims it has some - it's not marrow/wide though, is it just longer teeth and ugly stupid-BCD rings?
Yep! Seems everyone who's been using it in pre-production guise (including Dan McConnell - whose bike is pictured above) has been using a guide too.
Urgh, I thought these had a standard BCD for some reason.
Right enough - Sram always stick to standard BCDs eh?
What's SRAM got to do with it? At least they're offering decent chain retention. Shimano seem to be fully committed to ****ing up this groupset in every way possible.
They're just not committed to a 1x11 solution for all (which is quite a UK based demand anyway), they're going for a more holistic groupset - hence the doubles and triples.
Clever IMO - don't try and compete head to head with SRAM, go for the (huge chunk of the) market that SRAM are basically ignoring.
The downside is that you don't get some of the 'SRAM specific' benefits - wider cassette range, better chainring retention etc.
What's SRAM got to do with it?
I assume it was just an observation that it's not just Shimano doing proprietary BCDs...
You criticised Shimano for straying from standard BCDs. Sram are equally guilty but escape the same criticism.
Re chain retention, we haven't yet seen what Shimano offer - the pics seen are prototypes. We'll soon see though eh?
sillyoldman - MemberYou criticised Shimano for straying from standard BCDs. Sram are equally guilty but escape the same criticism.
Wrong on both counts tbh... SRAM use nonstandard chainrings but they don't do it just on single models like Shimano keep doing with XTR, they have greater compatability. And yes they do get criticised for it. And also slated for their terrible BBs.
Having said that, SRAM's replacable spiders make it less of an issue, and at least some of their nonstandard rings have a point to them whereas this doesn't seem to.
It's intended to better support the ring where it's required. Like Ultegra and Dura Ace. I''d imagine it'll trickle down the line when XT etc go 11 speed.
Re BCDs - isn't XX1's unique?
I totally agree that the 950, 960 unique BCDs are/were a pain in the hoop though!
Re BCDs - isn't XX1's unique?
Yep, 76mm. Removable spider though.
At least they're still continuing with 10speed XTR?