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  • tjagain
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    Decimate – it means to kill one in ten. It does not mean to run things down or to cut funding!

    If I see one more person say – the Tories are decimating the NHS / social care I will run amok with a copy of the OED ( yes I have a copy of the shorter OED – it weighs a good few kilos. It will hurt when I hit you with it)

    You have been warned!

    What misused words bug you?

    ElShalimo
    Full Member

    Quite/rather/very unique….no no no!!!

    Guilty as charged too

    🤦

    tjagain
    Full Member

    *adds people saying that to the list*

    frankconway
    Free Member

    under-estimate/over-estimate; under-state/over-state are the ones which irritate the life out of me.
    Rarely used correctly.

    perchypanther
    Free Member

    Driving me crackers.

    It really boils my piss.

    CountZero
    Full Member

    Lots. But I try to not let it bother me – there are other, far more important issues to be concerned about than slack grammar.

    poah
    Free Member

    theory when they mean hypothesis;

    brought rather than bought;

    weight isn’t measured in kg;

    jamj1974
    Full Member

    Could you be more pacific?

    ElShalimo
    Full Member

    Hypothetical Vs postulated…

    chickenman
    Full Member

    October: the tenth month when it means the eighth
    December: the twelfth month when it means the tenth
    Octave: there are only seven distinct notes in an octave
    FFS, makes me SO angry…

    gauss1777
    Free Member

    Decimate – it means to kill one in ten. It does not mean to run things down or to cut funding!

    I’m pretty sure it can mean either.
    Whilst I acknowledge my grammar is not perfect; I find it hard at times to not think less of the opinions of someone with poor grammar.

    Ps I hate the use of regular to mean frequent, although it’s become so common as to have become possibly correct (grrr).

    tjagain
    Full Member

    Black headed gulls have brown heads
    Black backed gulls have black wings not backs
    Herring gulls do not eat herring
    Common gulls are actually quite rare
    and there is no such bird as a seagull

    *and breathe*

    tjagain
    Full Member

    I’m pretty sure it can mean either.

    NOpe. it may be wrongly used for either but it means kill one in ten. precise meaning.

    Cougar
    Full Member

    Decimate – it means to kill one in ten. It does not mean to run things down or to cut funding!

    It meant that half a millennium ago perhaps. Its modern usage has been in, uh, modern usage for a very long time now. Whilst I’m generally a card-carrying words pedant, language evolves and this isn’t a battle I’d pick.

    hols2
    Free Member

    Literally.

    mashr
    Full Member

    What Cougar says, time to update your meaning on decimate

    yiman
    Full Member

    “My bad”

    Your bad what….use of the word bad as a noun!?

    tlr
    Free Member

    Less/fewer

    Envious/jealous

    Both battles I feel I have lost, even the BBC do it.

    maccruiskeen
    Full Member

    If I see one more person say – the Tories are decimating the NHS / social care I will run amok with a copy of the OED

    And kill one in ten of the people you meet. By throwing the book at them.

    theotherjonv
    Free Member

    Use of myself and yourself instead of me and you. It’s not even particularly wrong in the context of language evolution but yourself does it to seem more intelligent and it sends myself up the wall. Figuratively, of course.

    tjagain
    Full Member

    And while we are at it bring back thee and thou. YOu being used for plural and singular causes huge confusion

    stevied
    Free Member

    Amen!!

    IHN
    Full Member

    ‘should of’

    Grr.

    maccruiskeen
    Full Member

    Black headed gulls have brown heads

    Well – the same as ‘Black’ and ‘White’ as used to describe skin colour really

    Some of that is just the depths of time we’ve been using names for. Our naming of colour in language has shifted over time and the distinctions between colours has moved. Any of the things in nature we tend to call red – red deer, red squirrels, red hair, red sky at night and are all things we’d now call orange. But ‘orange’ is a relatively new name for colour and at one time everything we now call orange would have been part of what we would then think of as red. In other languages there no distinction between blue and green. Presumably dark brown has at a point in our history sat within our definition of ‘black’.

    tjagain
    Full Member

    I don’t care – they should properly be called “brown headed for part of the year gulls” Lets get these important things right!

    joshvegas
    Free Member

    weight isn’t measured in kg;

    Its not but weight is a function of mass and the effect of gravity which is a constant (ish) therefore theres no real need to get you knickers in a twist when the general population interchange the two.

    TJ i think you need to let it go, you’ve probably used paraphanalia numerous times and you’re unlikely to have used it correctly ever. Things change.

    sr0093193
    Free Member

    There’s a certain irony to using a ‘forum’ for this complaint – a word, that much like decimate, had a singular meaning in Latin but has multiple uses in English.

    maccruiskeen
    Full Member

    I will run amok with a copy of the OED

    Its useful to know what a dictionary is before making that kind of threat. In this context they proper use of a dictionary would require the use of a pencil so you can update your copy. Dictionaries record the use of language they don’t dictate it.

    hols2
    Free Member

    ‘Black’ and ‘White’ as used to describe skin colour really

    maccruiskeen
    Full Member

    they should properly be called “brown headed for part of the year gulls”

    They all fall under ‘Annoying squawky shit on my car bastards’ whatever colour their heads/wings/backs are.

    tjagain
    Full Member

    JoshVegas – every day is a school day. Thank you. Now I will use it correctly having checked in my big book of words

    🙂

    tlr
    Free Member

    I know I’m going to regret this, but….

    From my 1992 Pocket Oxford Dictionary:

    Decimate:
    1.destroy a large proportion of.
    2. orig. Rom. Hist. kill or remove one in ten of.

    RamseyNeil
    Free Member

    I think that as Roman legions no longer roam the planet the word decimate has had to evolve into it’s currently accepted meaning or go the same way as the Romans . Everyone knows what it means these days so it is an effective means of communication which is what it’s all about . “Hence why” and the misuse of literally mildly irritate me . Everyone currently ending their conversation with stay safe is also starting to irritate me.i suppose a lot of us currently have too much time on our hands and are a little more irritable than usual .

    maccruiskeen
    Full Member

    And while we are at it bring back thee and thou.

    Bringing back Yay and Nay would be helpful – there are some question you can’t answer with Yes or No. One the OP has probably been asked frequently would be:

    “You’re not going out dressed like that are you?”

    benpinnick
    Full Member

    Herring gulls are called that because of their colour not diet.

    hols2
    Free Member

    One the OP has probably been asked frequently would be:

    “You’re not going out dressed like that are you?”

    To be fair, even the best among us make those sorts of mistakes after a few drinks.

    funkmasterp
    Full Member

    brought rather than bought;

    This really irritates me along with the following:

    I could care less,
    Should of,
    Myself or yourself instead of me or you.

    Seagulls is a great word and shorter than annoying, noisy feathery bastards. Yoda is correct in his seagull assumption.

    MaryHinge
    Free Member

    See what happens when tj has too much time on his hands!

    An amusing one from work yesterday, as we have moved 20,000 staff to home working, we have received a number of requests for ” assertive technology” 😄

    dangeourbrain
    Free Member

    https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/decimate

    The OED is paywalled but the Google results from “Oxford”:

    decimate
    /ˈdɛsɪmeɪt/
    Learn to pronounce
    verb
    1.
    kill, destroy, or remove a large proportion of.
    “the inhabitants of the country had been decimated”
    2.
    HISTORICAL
    kill one in every ten of (a group of people, originally a mutinous Roman legion) as a punishment for the whole group.
    “the man who is to determine whether it be necessary to decimate a large body of mutineers”

    joshvegas
    Free Member

    Its seagul isn’t it?

    And they’re not even sea birds are they?

    TJ its a good one isn’t it? Learnt that from a 1905ish dictionary wish i had got it ftom my Granddads house before it was cleared. The difference a century makes to word usage was quite pronounced.

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