Lower drink driving limit

hey sbob, slight hijack – can you tell me some insurers that actually offer this “discount” as any I have never found any who get remotely close to the best price for me each year.

I’ve always found that the saving if I was an IAM member was less than half the membership fee 😐

I did motorbike IAM and got a pretty trivial discount, it shouldn’t be why you do the course mind but I was surprised how little difference it made. (and of course you’re only an Advanced Driver for as long as you’re paying the membership fee 😉 The day you quit all that extra skill just gets deleted from your brain)

I’ve had advanced driving lessons but not with the IAM. Is confuzed.

They offered us at work membership with some sort of reduced test a while back (Emergency Service). We’d still have to pay the membership cost though. When asked the person promoting it admitted we’d probably not recoup the cost so no one did it.

Any amount of alcohol impairs your driving ability.

Forget the legal stuff, if you deliberately take anything that you know impairs your driving ability and then go and drive, you are an idiot.

Just a reminder that the new limits are now in operation.

Between midnight and 6AM 4 people were tested positive and 3 have been charged.
This is about the biggest news in Scotland since the referendum, how stupid do you have to be to have even looked at some booze and head out in the car?

I can feel the effects after half a pint, so I’ve never bothered with this one or two pints and you’ll be alright

I’m sure different people are affected differently

Ah, but would they have been under the old limit?

jools182 – Member
I can feel the effects after half a pint,

are you 3 ft 4? 😆

are you 3 ft 4? [/quote]Half pint of whisky perhaps?

aracer – Member
BigButSlimmerBloke » Between midnight and 6AM 4 people were tested positive and 3 have been charged.
Ah, but would they have been under the old limit?

It doesn’t matter if they would have been under the old limit, it doesn’t exist any more! Everyone has had plenty of warnings to say don’t do it!

Everyone has had plenty of warnings to say don’t do it!

You’d have to be pretty dense to not work out the cops would be out in force on the first night of the new limit. But some people apparently just need everything explained to them

are you 3 ft 4?

Over 6′ 😳

Any one hear Nicky Campbell on 5live this morning? He didn’t seem happy about the lowering of the drink drive limit!!

I’m not convinced 50mg relates to less than a pint…its just propaganda put out to put people off risking a pint. I know everyone’s different but a friend of mine got pulled on his way home from the pub after 2.5 pints and was made to wait 20mins so it was all in his system (whilst crapping himself) and when tested it was 12mgs. He’s 6ft and 16stone mind.

Local radio interviewing people this morning after people getting caught already, one genius described how it was stupid as it would make people depressed ‘cos they can’t go out drinking with their mates then drive the next day! Dufuq!

Success! All that tambourine playing has not been for nought!

Think everyone was keeking their drawers about this, pubs seemed empty last night! 😆

Out of curiosity, I had three pints last night when out for something to eat, over a 2 hour period, tested myself on one of those personal breathalysers about an hour later.

measured 0.5, another hour later the thing had me down as ok to drive, less than 0.2 i measured..

I don’t have a license mind so it doesn’t make a blind bit of difference to me, but I was surprised. Maybe the extra padding I carry helps me out! 😆

Sorry if I missed this point but trying to read 8 pages did my head in ……

Having just driven back from Scotland to England the thought occurred re what happens if you are marginally over the limit in Scotland but would have been legal in the rest of the UK? Should you only be banned from driving in Scotland as you have not broken the law for driving elsewhere?

Test case required?

Interesting point @woody, whether the Scots have the power to take away your UK licence. In Europe they can fine you but they cannot take away your UK licence or give you penalty points.

Should you only be banned from driving in Scotland as you have not broken the law for driving elsewhere?

The law is the Law. If you get caught doing 60 in a 30 and lose your license, you don’t just get banned from 30mph zones.

Interesting point @woody, whether the Scots have the power to take away your UK licence. In Europe they can fine you but they cannot take away your UK licence or give you penalty points.

As you keep pointing out in the other Scottish threads, Scotland is (still) part of the UK. Lose your license in Scotland, lose it everywhere in the UK.

The law is the Law.

Scots law is different, so why should someone living in England be banned from driving in England if they haven’t broken the law in their home country? It’s a UK driving licence NOT a Scottish one and as such all legalities should be the same IMHO.

On a different point, I was also charged over £8 for a large G&T as a ‘large’ is priced the same as 2 singles by ‘law’ as drinks ‘deals’ are now illegal. Bloody disgrace that civilised people are now penalised because of pissheads! 🙄

as a ‘large’ is priced the same as 2 singles by ‘law’ as drinks ‘deals’ are now illegal

since when? Was out a couple of weeks ago and was asked plenty of times “double for 30p extra?”

Bloody disgrace that civilised people are now penalised because of pissheads!

yeah but the speake ris always civilized it’s those that drink more than them who are pissheads 😉

Scots law is different, so why should someone living in England be banned from driving in England if they haven’t broken the law in their home country? It’s a UK driving licence NOT a Scottish one and as such all legalities should be the same IMHO.

It’s a UK licence. If you break the laws of a UK country which carries a penalty of losing your UK licence then, surprise surprise, you lose it.

It’s a UK licence. If you break the laws of a UK country which carries a penalty of losing your UK licence then, surprise surprise, you lose it.

you’d think so but I guess we should wait and see what happens when mr loophole and his cronies get hold of a case like that.

Nope.

UK gov would need to remove the ability of Scottish courts decisions to endorse a UK licence. Which won’t happen. You’re more likely to see the limit being lowered in England than you are for a drink driving ban enforced only in the country it was committed in (which is, quite frankly, a breathtakingly stupid suggestion)

fair enough, I’m just cynical of that duplicitous git’s ability to get seemingly very guilty people off the hook.

I know what you mean. He has carved himself out quite a nice little (profitable!) niche.

Even if Scotland was independent it’s plausible that breaking iScotland’s drink driving laws would see you also being banned in rUK. For example, there are “mutual endorsement” arrangements in place with the Isle of Man to cover serious offences.

than you are for a drink driving ban enforced only in the country it was committed in

in which it was committed! Can we have a writing ban for the grammar-less? Maybe a points system. Of course there would have to be different rules to cover Gaelic and Welsh errors.

Almost crashed my car into the front of my office at 0630 this morning (no alcohol involved!), grammar is fairly low down my list of “stuff i’ve not done very well today” 🙂

(I should note, I’m making up most of these posts, so might warrant a bit of actual research if anyone can be bothered. Sounds right though 🙂 )

Woody – Member
The law is the Law.
Scots law is different, so why should someone living in England be banned from driving in England if they haven’t broken the law in their home country? It’s a UK driving licence NOT a Scottish one and as such all legalities should be the same IMHO.

you will lose that argument if you expect the limit to get revised upward. Likelihood if it became an issue would be that the limit would get lowered in England and Wales.

Almost crashed my car into the front of my office at 0630 this morning

like this?

a gritting issue apparently 🙄

a gritting issue apparently

haha!

Mine was probably even more stupid. I was parked up with engine on and could hear a slight rattle coming from exhaust. I put into “N” (car is auto) with the door open and me leaning out as I revved slightly to see if I could hear it. Only I’d put it back into “D” rather than “N”. 😳

as a ‘large’ is priced the same as 2 singles by ‘law’ as drinks ‘deals’ are now illegal
since when? Was out a couple of weeks ago and was asked plenty of times “double for 30p extra?”

That’s what I was told in the hotel I stayed in. Aberdeen hotels probably get away with it because most of the guests appeared to be on expenses!

The UK already signed up to mutual recognition of driving disqualifications within the EU – so for instance if you are banned in Ireland, it applies in the UK. This also applies to all other EU countries that have signed up. However as Scotland is part of the UK then I would think this is simply not needed as a ban there is the same as a ban in London.

Its a ludicrous situation and I feel sorry for those Scots who would have preferred to continue with the previous limit and had it enforced properly.