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After lighting my garden fire tonight with about a litre of petrol, I was thinking of a conversation at work recently where I claimed that learning how to light a fire with petrol was part of the manhood rite of passage. My collegue said 'you shouln't do it' to which I replied 'well you do'.

So am I right, or is everyone to scared to have a fire nowadays in case everyone dies?


 
Posted : 04/06/2011 6:18 pm
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It'll be a childs face next time.


 
Posted : 04/06/2011 6:20 pm
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Wise men use diesel - less likely to flash over and burn you to a crispy cinder.


 
Posted : 04/06/2011 6:21 pm
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Dont you realise theres wars going on around the world for petrol, people getting kiled daily,people stealing it from parked cars and petrol station drive off, and yet you feel the need to waste, a seriously reducing product on proving your manhood.

LOL.


 
Posted : 04/06/2011 6:22 pm
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A whole litre......!!! Are you made of money?


 
Posted : 04/06/2011 6:22 pm
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Do it boy scout way
Rub two sticks together ,that proves your manhood.!!!!!


 
Posted : 04/06/2011 6:25 pm
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why do you need to use petrol when Bear Ghryls can light a fire in the rain forest with a spark and a bit of fluff


 
Posted : 04/06/2011 6:26 pm
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Watch a few episodes of RAY MEARS !!


 
Posted : 04/06/2011 6:26 pm
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rubbing your manhod between two sticks proves nothing !!!


 
Posted : 04/06/2011 6:27 pm
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It's petrol contaminated with diesel and removed from a vehicle, and costs me nothing.

The guy at work lit a fire in a 45 gallon drum the other week and it sounded like a bomb when it went off. Shook all the windows in the building. I nearly went outside to see if he was ok.


 
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I'll bet you're glad you posted now! FWIW I agree.


 
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Hope [url= http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-06-02/chevron-pembroke-oil-refinery-has-fire-fire-department-says.html ]this[/url] this wasn't you.


 
Posted : 04/06/2011 6:31 pm
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did you check your fire for hibernating hedgehogs first..?


 
Posted : 04/06/2011 6:32 pm
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rubbing your manhod between two sticks proves nothing !!!

Even better when the bed collapses on you.!!!

provided fire wood thou.!!!


 
Posted : 04/06/2011 6:38 pm
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Ah yes people who light fires with petrol, I've met a few of them with no eye brows, tips of nose, fringe and often their arms look like this guys.

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If you need petrol to light a fire you need lessons on lighting a fire, a rite of passage is learning to light a fire the correct way.


 
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is everyone to scared to have a fire nowadays in case everyone dies?

It's not the fire that's the problem, it's the explosive nature of petrol. The son of the owner of my local asian grocer's decided one day that he would burn a load of rubbish in the garden. He piled it up high in a fairly confined area and doused it heavily with petrol. When he lit it, it exploded - it killed him.


 
Posted : 04/06/2011 6:42 pm
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why on earth would you need petrol? never mind a litre of it to light a fire.


 
Posted : 04/06/2011 6:47 pm
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why on earth would you need petrol?

I think the point he's making is that paper and tinder is for girls and gay men, whilst petrol is for proper men.

Personally I think it singles out those who missed out learning survival skills in the scouts.


 
Posted : 04/06/2011 6:53 pm
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The guy at work lit a fire in a 45 gallon drum the other week and it sounded like a bomb when it went off. Shook all the windows in the building. I nearly went outside to see if he was ok.

A bomb did go off - filling a metal container with petrol vapour and lighting it means a bomb was pretty much what he'd made. Bombs you have to stand right next to in order to detonate them are possible among the least sophisticated bombs you can make though. Petrol's rubbish for lighting fires, it flares off so fast, if you can use it to get something alight you're pretty much demonstrating that you didn't need to use it.


 
Posted : 04/06/2011 7:00 pm
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Man - you are one testosterone-laden hunk of het.

I'm suprised you have time to type - the local women must be beating a path to your door just to be near you. I truly wish I was man enough to use petrol to light fires. 🙄


 
Posted : 04/06/2011 7:02 pm
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FAvoured way of BBQ lighting at work is get a wee spark then turn on the O2 tank.


 
Posted : 04/06/2011 7:04 pm
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Why cant you light a fire without petrol?
Are you going to explain how we crack a nut with a sledge hammer next week?


 
Posted : 04/06/2011 7:06 pm
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Genghispod's garden bonfire - impressed!

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Posted : 04/06/2011 7:10 pm
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[i][s]If you were man enough you put the fire down with petrol![/s][/i]


 
Posted : 04/06/2011 7:14 pm
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Drac, I think you will find that that guy came to be that way because Robocop drove him into a tank of toxic sludge IIRC.


 
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I'm reminded of this [url= http://theweekly.co.uk/4401/irregular_dread/ ]bit of fun[/url]

"The air in your enclosed stove is now superheating, rising exceptionally rapidly into the sky and sucking in its wake the cold, ground level air through the cracks between the paving slabs. This phenomenon tightly concentrates the fire within, sending jets of flame several feet through the primitive wood roof, and is familiar to the bombers of Dresden as "firestorm."

Stand back a little."


 
Posted : 04/06/2011 7:20 pm
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Drac, I think you will find that that guy came to be that way because Robocop drove him into a tank of toxic sludge IIRC.

Robocop didn't drive him into Toxic sludge, I'll think you'll find.


 
Posted : 04/06/2011 7:21 pm
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Saccades I used petrol because I have several gallons of contaminated fuel as mentioned above.

Re the rite of passage thing, I was suggesting that learning to do it safely was the thing that mattered.

Sorry but this reply has been delayed as my ex-wife has been on the phone reminiscing about my glory days.

New Topic - is it ok to use petrol to light the funeral pyre of your (not dead yet) ex-wife?


 
Posted : 04/06/2011 7:24 pm
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[i]learning how to light a fire with petrol[/i]

I'm confused here, what's to learn?


 
Posted : 04/06/2011 7:27 pm
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Using petrol to light a fire is only used by by people who are ignorant of the risks, the vapour burns and can travel quite some distance which means that it could could be ignited by a nearby spark and can create a flash fire.Besides as previous posters have said it is rubbish as it burns off too quickly.
Use diesel or parrafin instead much more stable and will get the job done but to be honest why do you need it anyway as normaly a bit of cardboard will get most fires going and if not what you are trying to burn is too wet and will only generate lots smoke to wind up the neighbours


 
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Damn my memory!


 
Posted : 04/06/2011 7:30 pm
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Pity help mine, I can remember 1000s of crap like that but ask me about important stuff and I've had it.


 
Posted : 04/06/2011 7:32 pm
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Having spent a day a week back on a neolithic firelighting course, anything other than a spark, some pre-prepared horse-hoof fungus (or my secret stash of tinder fungus) and birch back is cheating in the OAB household, or for any of my staff at work.
Last nights fire of said tinder fungus and birch bark took one set of sparks to ignite 8)

Even better, the storms brought down loads of birch and our drying room at work is full, and I discovered a tree with LOADS of tinder fungus on behind my house 🙂


 
Posted : 04/06/2011 7:38 pm
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maccruiskeen I didn't stand next to the bomb when lighting it I threw in a burning stick previously dipped in petrol. I also sometimes use the real man's method of lighting the spray from an aerosol can and directing the flame onto the flammable material.

I probably could spend time rubbing sticks together of using firelighters which I would have to pay for, and I used to build exquisitely constructed fires in the lounge when we had a real fire, but at the end of the day I want to burn a load of crap in the garden. Fill 45 gallon drum with dried sticks, pour in FREE petrol, throw in flaming stick. Simples

And it makes me feel more of a man 'cos I didn't die.


 
Posted : 04/06/2011 7:40 pm
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Light a fire with petrol???????

MTFU


 
Posted : 04/06/2011 7:42 pm
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napalm is where its at


 
Posted : 04/06/2011 7:42 pm
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the vapour burns and can travel quite some distance

The vapour is the fun bit - you know where you've poured the petrol but you can't see where the vapour is going, you would guess it goes up but it often spreads out at ground level. Watched some try to light a camp fire with petrol, only a cup full, the flames went around and behind them - a radius of about 5 feet.


 
Posted : 04/06/2011 7:44 pm
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I light my fire with hedgehogs.


 
Posted : 04/06/2011 7:54 pm
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Napalm? Doesn't that involve simply dissolving polystyrene in petrol? I can do that!

If I had a helicopter I could deliver it from above and save all the time I spent cutting back the jungle in the first place.

I can see a summer of fun approaching. My 8 year old daughter is going to get an education too. She's going to love napalm!


 
Posted : 04/06/2011 7:56 pm
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I once had a neighbour call the fire brigade to my bonfire 😳

Didn't use petrol though 🙄 , just one of those metal bins with a few holes in the sides and a drop of waste paraffin chucked on to get rid of it (no more than 150ml or so)

Really needed some Wagner playing ! - dramatic, though safe IMO. I think our neighbour called them up mostly to stop me having any [s]fire[/s] fun rather than prevent a disaster. Had burned down to totally wimpy levels by the time the fire engine arrived


 
Posted : 04/06/2011 7:57 pm
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My brother in law wanted to burn a load of old wood. We drilled many holes into an oil drum to make it into a brazier, loaded it up and I put about half a cup of petrol in it cos that's what we had. The cylindrical nature of the drum contained the resulting explosion quite nicely and it shot little splinters of wood and debris quite a long way into the air.

Learned a bit about contained explosions that day.


 
Posted : 04/06/2011 7:59 pm
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My favoured way:

Pile up your rubbish, put a concrete block on top. Tie a bit of string to the block, tie the oter end of it to something like a tree, fence or similar object around 30 metres away. Before tying it, slip on a piece of waterpipe approx 6 inches long. Now tape a large rocket to the pipe.

Put an open basin on top of the concrete block and pour in a gallon of petrol, although as yours is free you might want to use 3 and fill the basin to the brim. Splash some more around the basin/pile.
Light the rocket. 😯

Of course, as others have mentioned, petrol is rubbish at actually getting a fire going so drop a few firelighters in the mix too.

Do it in someone elses garden, drink beer to hydrate during the 'work'.


 
Posted : 04/06/2011 8:07 pm
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Bit of encouragement is good for burning green material, 3 fresh cut trees and their stumps burnt up on site this week with the help of something absorbent and a few litres of red diesel. You'll never burn a green stack with your 2 sticks and pocket of fluff, if you're lucky you might burn off the foliage.

I've heard tyres burn well too...

Like a good burn up, have built fires as big as the house (would have gone bigger, but the tractor couldn't lift it higher)


 
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Bedmaker do you have a video of this procedure?

On a similar note I saw a video many years ago of a man using liquid oxygen to light his barbecue. A cup of the stuff got his barbecue up to temperature in about 2 seconds, but it did use up half a bag of charcoal in the process.


 
Posted : 04/06/2011 8:26 pm
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I've got 2 old sleepers in my garden (railway, not cold-war), absolutely stinking of creosote but pretty dry wood

I reckon they'll go lovely - anybody got any dead sheep/cows to get rid of ?


 
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Some years back I had a Saturday job in a plumbers merchant. One day a very hysterical, camp looking and sounding hairdresser came through our doors.
He had a plumbing problem and needed a plumber right away.
The experienced old boys just kept their hands in their pockets and said nowt.
But a young new in the trade plumber offered to help. Anyway he went off to evaluate the job, and took it on.
For hours this guy kept coming and going, buying bits and tools and the job was tallying up.
This went on for hours, and you could see him wearing down.
Then he finally exclaimed that he could sort it, and just needed to heat up a pipe to bend it and off he went - again.
Some time later the doors fly open again. In walks this black faced bloke with smoke still plumeing from where his eyebrows once were. And the front of his once spotless overalls were now full of burn holes and still smouldering.
WE asked what had happened.
Well he said, I needed to heat up that pipe, so I got a bucket and filled it up with petrol. At that point we all just fell about


 
Posted : 04/06/2011 8:34 pm
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Us ex. Boy Scouts know that rubbing two Girl Guides together is a sure way to keep warm!

Seriously though, using any accelerant to light a fire is just lame...and very non manly. Even BBQs should be lit by starting with a small fire and using a charcoal chimney to heat the coals.


 
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Seriously though, using any accelerant to light a fire is just lame...and very non manly.

QFT and timber - if you get the fire hot enough green wood will burn. Pallets are amazing for getting a fire going once it's lit but as has been said birch bark is amazing for tinder.


 
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Re the rite of passage thing, I was suggesting that learning to do it safely was the thing that mattered.

It appears you haven't actually yet gone through that rite of passage then.


 
Posted : 04/06/2011 8:59 pm
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but if green wood is all you have lifer there is nothing to get that heat in to it, apart from red diesel for example, pallets would have done, but we didn't have them, just a field, digger, dumper and a couple of willow trees and an alder to burn, pretty wet trees as things go.

old fence posts on the other hand are just a few degrees away from spontaneous combustion - perfect kindling for the fire at home.


 
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I once tried lighting a fire by chucking a tin of WD40 on it. The fire exploded and disappeared completely 🙂 (I was only about 10 though).


 
Posted : 04/06/2011 9:44 pm
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old fence posts on the other hand are just a few degrees away from spontaneous combustion - perfect kindling for the fire at home.

Yup I have a few waiting to cut and split. Mind the old railway sleepers I had were bloody good they went with some great heat but you had to get the coal on first as there was not embers.


 
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but if green wood is all you have lifer there is nothing to get that heat in to it, apart from red diesel for example

Someone else who wasn't a scout under the tutelage of an old school scoutmaster. You can [i]always[/i] find enough tinder to get a fire going sufficiently enough to burn green wood.

If you don't, you don't have a fire. And if you don't have a fire, you don't cook. And finally if you don't cook, your patrol doesn't eat.......simple as.

Which was kinda tough, but you certainly learnt how to get a fire going with whatever was available.


 
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You can always find enough tinder to get a fire going sufficiently enough to burn green wood

Not sure that's always true - often, but always. And there's not much point combing the countryside looking for dry wood when there's a can of diesel right next to you.. 🙂


 
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We sometimes have big and i'm mean big fires at work in winter normally burning green wet willow. Best way is to start small and when it's going gradually build it up.

Once your got a good fire going it will burn through most things.


 
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Personally I think it singles out those who missed out learning survival skills in the scouts.

I learned all those skills but they're far outweighed by the need to get a fire started ASAP. My survival skills taught me to keep a small sealed container of highly flammable liquids in every camping kit just in case it's pouring with rain and you can't get one going from natural stuff.

The trick to petrol is not leaving it more than about 10 seconds before lighting it (vapour buildup makes for an explosive event) and not using stupid amounts of it, 50ml is enough to get a decent sized fire going quickly and easily and saves finding dry tinder. Any more and you're being stupid and asking for an explosion.


 
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My survival skills tell me not to do any more than is necessary and not to waste time fannying around trying to be a "real man" 🙂 Use what you have to hand.


 
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A petrol leaf blower can also help 🙂


 
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My survival skills taught me to keep a small sealed container of highly flammable liquids in every camping kit just in case it's pouring with rain and you can't get one going from natural stuff.

You've got crap survival skills if you can't get a fire going in the pouring rain without petrol.

How often do you want to start a fire in the pouring rain btw ?


 
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I used petrol to start a BBQ like this...

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...and inadvertently got the air/petrol spot on 14:1 launching the charcoal onto the garage roof.


 
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Back in the 70s, a "home mechanic" in our village decided to clean out the petrol tank of his car before removing it (the reason why he needed to do this has never been clear to me but, for reasons best known to himself, he did). He used a cylinder vacuum cleaner to do it. Apparently, the blending of petrol vapour and the sparks generated by a rapidly spinning Electolux motor yielded a result worthy of Pratt and Whitney's finest. My Dad told me that they found debris over a mile away, while s***-for-brains himself was left with a Jules Winnfield style speech impediment ever since, but at least live to t-t-t-tell the t-t-t-tale. Apparently, he suffered more trauma from his wife (who was ironing in the soon-to-be-demiloshed bedroom above the garage) than from the explosion itself. True story.


 
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what about pushing a swing so hard that it wraps itself around the bar that it hangs from..
is this the same thing...?


 
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I used petrol to start a BBQ like this...

daft, you'll taste the petrol on the food...


 
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