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  • Legal advice please – cancelling a new car dispute
  • jbproductions
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    Dunno. Jumped from page 2 to 31. Life’s too short. Did she not actually order the car in the first place?

    Junkyard
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    she had not ordered the car from what I can gather – I may be mistaken but pretty sure that was the outcome.

    project
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    33 pages 1122 posts and 169 voices so far, and still nobodies taken on the black skoda

    nealglover
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    No the car was never ordered.

    According to the on-site messages, the car can not be held for the customer without the finance documents signed and approved.

    This didn’t happen.

    lank45
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    Got to sleep at 1am on page 22, get back from work we are on page 33! All I want to know has anyone used the Ling dynasty joke?!

    nealglover
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    Not yet.

    Go for it. :mrgreen:

    lank45
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    Neal will you let me know when it does please?!

    nealglover
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    My pleasure.

    plyphon
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    Vintage Dragons Den though

    Her business model at about the 1 minute mark is certainly ringing true.

    burko73
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    What’s with the wedding list thing? Is the op marrying someone, not his scorned potential/ no potential business partner?

    tom200
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    Generally speaking, business models that are not about money are doomed from the start.

    I’m sure the OP will sleep well tonight knowing when he starts his new job, he will be making more than Ling does.

    geordiemick00
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    ‘m sure the OP will sleep well tonight knowing when he starts his new job, he will be making more than Ling does.

    I’ve seen that video before and the fact that she only made £30k net profit had escaped me, so you’re not far off the mark there 😆

    I’ve been very good at making money in the past and despite what Andym thinks I’ve made it ethically and without having to punish people with extortionate and dubious business practices.

    My problem has been letting that money fritter through my fingers on expensive bikes, cars and vans.

    I didn’t come to this thread for relentless judgement of my financial situation but I can’t deny it’s been an issue. I can’t hide the fact 2017 has been a total stripdown and rebuild for me and I’m not there yet, but with a diagnosis of depression I never saw coming, time on my own and help from my mate I’m close to getting out of the hole I’ve put myself in.

    I just have to be more self aware of the times when I feel the need to spend spend spend and learn to save save save.

    But first I need to earn earn earn…

    This post is probably a big learning curve for myself and ling to be fair and I hold no malice towards her.

    Peace out.

    pondo
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    I have done many miles since I started reading this thread 24 hours and about 20 pages ago – I could not tell you about any of them as this thread has been utterly consuming. When’s the book out?

    martinhutch
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    I have done many miles since I started reading this thread 24 hours and about 20 pages ago

    Look at the bloody road!

    pondo
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    I’d have done it ten minutes without this thread but kept missing turnings – gonna have to stop for new tyres soon. 🙁

    nealglover
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    I’ve seen that video before and the fact that she only made £30k net profit had escaped me, so you’re not far off the mark there

    To be fair, that’s after all costs, staff wages, including hers.

    She could have been paying herself £5k a week ?

    Probably not though 🙂

    wrecker
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    I’m sure the OP will sleep well tonight knowing when he starts his new job, he will be making more than Ling does.

    I’ll bet he doesn’t. Take a look at the lingscars accounts and decide for yourself. It looks like a very well run business to me.

    Stedlocks
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    Has this been resolved yet?

    :0)

    geordiemick00
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    I’ll bet he doesn’t. Take a look at the lingscars accounts and decide for yourself. It looks like a very well run business to me

    I will sleep well, I always do.

    I have no doubt the business is ran well, apart from unfair contracts and serious concerns over data breaches and libellous comments,

    sbob
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    My problem has been letting that money fritter through my fingers on expensive bikes, cars and vans.

    Not the van though, you reneged on that. 🙂

    (Just trying to keep it going)

    dannybgoode
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    Can we have a brief synopsis (haiku length if possible) and details of the outcome please.

    I’m kind of interested but not 33 pages interested…

    dannybgoode
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    And sorry. Can we have some proof that the op genuinely purchased a car from *that* website?!

    ‘I am Ling you can trust me’ on a website that uses every horrid html fudge effect it can. Deserves everything they get really.

    rickmeister
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    danny b…

    The op didn’t buy a car. His mate did…

    Kick back, pop a cold one, stand on the edge of the vortex and dive in at page one….

    martinhutch
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    Men make rash promises
    Changing fortunes drive them back
    Cold wind from China

    dannybgoode
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    The op didn’t buy a car. His mate did…

    Yeah – my mate’s all kinds of stuff I’ve he’s regretted.

    Like looking at that bloody website…

    ojom
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    In all this I am still amazed that folks will spend so much on hiring something. My brain doesn’t get it. Doesn’t mean it’s wrong, I just don’t get it.

    gobuchul
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    In all this I am still amazed that folks will spend so much on hiring something. My brain doesn’t get it. Doesn’t mean it’s wrong, I just don’t get it.

    That was my first reaction but then when you look at it, it makes a lot of sense, IF, you must have a new shiney car every couple of years.

    If you look on Autotrader, a 2 year old Superb can be bought for £17k and that’s a high spec 4 x 4. So if you paid £30k for it, it’s already cost you £13k in depreciation. A lot less than Ling’s 2 year rental.

    The real madness is the desire for a brand new car.

    dannybgoode
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    The real madness is the desire for a brand new car.

    One of the conditions of a car allowance at a company I used to work at was that your car had to a) be less than 3 years old and b) not a Skoda (!).

    A 3 year lease made perfect sense in this scenario…

    gobuchul
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    a) be less than 3 years old

    So it wasn’t a desire but a requirement. Makes absolute sense to you.

    However, it seems a very wasteful company policy!

    Why no Skoda’s????

    dannybgoode
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    Why no Skoda’s????

    Chairman said no one in his company should be turning up for meetings in Skoda’s. That was the end of it!

    angeldust
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    In all this I am still amazed that folks will spend so much on hiring something. My brain doesn’t get it. Doesn’t mean it’s wrong, I just don’t get it.

    To be fair, lots of people don’t get it. It only makes sense if you value having a brand new car every 2-3 years, with the associated feeling of driving something new and reliable that is covered by warranty etc, and doesn’t have any hidden costs*. It’s not a cheap way of owning a car. It’s not for cheapskates. Buying an old banger and crossing your fingers, is a much cheaper way to do it. It can however, be MUCH CHEAPER than buying outright every 2-3 years, where typically you might loose substantially more in depreciation than you would be spending in total for the lease period. It does depend on getting a good deal, to maximise this benefit. The Skoda we have been talking about on this thread is not a great deal. Ling is usually not the cheapest by a long way. Looking to spend less than 20-25% of the full vehicle price over 2 years is considered a sign of a good deal (this varies a bit, but is a reasonable guide). Compare that to how much a car depreciates over that time to evaluate the benefits.

    *Unless you decide you don’t want it after you have signed 😀

    legend
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    a website that uses every horrid html fudge effect it can. Deserves everything they get really.

    Do you realise they ridiculous website is just a marketing ploy? Certainly stands out from every other lease company i’ve ever seen

    angeldust
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    The real madness is the desire for a brand new car.

    If no one bought them new, how will cheapskates/people on lower income etc buy them second hand? 🙄

    myti
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    Good watch that video! 30k profit for running all that seems crazy. The risk of losing money with all that kit, premises and staff seems insane. You could clear 30k as a sole trader doing all sorts of things without all the risk and commitment that comes with being an employer.

    Read this from start to finish and felt at times both sides were in the wrong or right.

    Glad to see OP may take something away from this experience and be a bit more cautious with spending in future and good luck to you with getting back on track in whatever work you end up in.

    Maybe Ling will think about clarifying her contracts and cancellation fees and check up on the legality of the cooling off to avoid future hassles like this too…

    gobuchul
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    If no one bought them new, how will cheapskates/people on lower income etc buy them second hand?

    I don’t know.

    I guess I would have to buy new ones and keep them a lot longer than 2 or 3 years.

    Isn’t the “new car every 2 or 3 years” mainly a UK thing?

    Especially with the reliability of modern cars, it seems a bit daft, to me.

    However, each to their own, I have boat that if I worked out the true cost per hour to run, I would cry.

    FunkyDunc
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    In all this I am still amazed that folks will spend so much on hiring something.

    I hire a £40k car and works out roughly the same cost as getting a loan to buy a bottom of the range car.

    What does confuse me about this thread is why the hell you would hire a car when you are not in stable employment, and surly if you are self employed, you only hire an expensive car when the money is rolling in, not at the start when you have no idea what your real earnings will be.

    aracer
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    The obvious difference being that when you’ve paid the loan off you have an asset.

    jimw
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    I can see that the website is a marketing ploy, one that appears to be successful in that the company still trades and makes a profit, and that it might appeal to a number of people. However it doesn’t make me want to use the company (not that I would ever lease a car anyway) and all her posts here and on her website regarding her approach just confirms that.
    This is regardless of the rights/wrongs of the main argument on this thread.
    Brash and combative obviously works for some, but not for me. Perhaps I am just too old.

    Larry_Lamb
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    angeldust – Member
    The real madness is the desire for a brand new car.
    If no one bought them new, how will cheapskates/people on lower income etc buy them second hand?

    Far too many people are ignorant that in order to have second hand there needs to be first hand buyers.

    “I really want that flash car but I’m not buying it new it’s way overpriced”

    Think what’d happen if everyone took that attitude eh.

    People like that should promote the sale of new items not mock it.

    wrightyson
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    Has a post ever received this many comments in two days before?

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