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Know Your Trail Users
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charliedontsurfFull Member
Charlie takes a light hearted look at the wonderful variety of people we share the trails with. It’s that time of year again when the clocks go forwar …
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2ChrisLFull MemberI think your Wide Family is the same as my Nuclear Family Skirmish Line, whose cunning tactics can allow 4 people to occupy an exceedingly wide trail. When making room for someone to pass them they each intuitively know to head for the side of the trail furthest from their starting point too, ensuring some synchronised crossing manoeuvres almost worthy of the Red Arrows.
4WooFull MemberI often walk canal tracks with an old friend and we are often passed by mountain bikes. Now, my dear friend has high frequency hearing loss and cannot hear bicycle bells, not even the marvellous Timber Bell. I have to tell him when a rider is approaching from behind.
Now there are lots of people like him walking out there so be careful.Then of course there are those with earphones in who dont hear anything (in future years there will be a great epidemic of deafness in many of these earphone users).
Finally there are those so intent on their conversation that they hear nothing. Be patient.
6ta11pau1Full MemberSimilar to the over reactive is the deaf shrieker.
Usually a middle aged couple, who despite numerous ‘dings’ from 100ft away, then 50ft, then 40, 30, 20, 10… Ding. Ding. Dingdingding. DINGDINGDING! fail to hear you approaching. After sitting behind them for aout 30 seconds following the aforementioned dings with a friendly ‘excuse me!’ the female of the couple lets out a surprised ‘EEEEK!!’ before jumping 2ft into the air and into the nearest bush/ditch/canal.
And there’s the headphone user. Always strolling down the middle of the path, meandering slightly from left to right, usually because they’re 100% focused on their phone, so you never know which side is safe to pass. They won’t hear you no matter how loud your bell or verbal cries.
And lastly, the worst ever. The splitters. Usually on a narrow path just wide enough for 2 people. Instead of both going to one side, they stop completely dead and stand either side of the trail, giving you about 500mm to fit your 800mm bars through… Sometimes combined with the shrieker, above.
Dogs not on a lead are probably the most predictable trail user of them all. Slow down a bit, if it’s an older dog they’ll probably just stand still, ignoring thier owner. A young puppy and you’ll have a new trail dog for they next half a mile as they completely ignore their owner and decide to follow the strange person with wheels which looks like fun to run alongside 😁
1matt_blFree MemberMissed the ‘never happy bloke’
And it is always a bloke! No matter how slowly, politely you approach him, it will always be wrong. If you say ‘excuse me’, he will respond with ‘get a bloody bell’, whereas if you ring your bell he’ll pull a sour face and tell you ‘just because you’ve rung you bell doesn’t mean i’m jumping out of your way!’. To be fair we knew that.
2matt_outandaboutFree MemberWho Have I Missed Out?
The getting jiggy with it couple who thought they were in the middle of nowhere. Best dealt with by a ‘lovely day for it!’ exclamation, rather than a stop to chat…
1seriousrikkFull MemberThat’s a the longest bell advert I’ve ever read
Agreed
But I feel neither sad nor disappointed. In fact I feel at odds with the world right now, as an advert has made my day slightly better.
1BlackflagFree MemberYou missed the “Gang Of Hoodies” – Waiting until you are within grabbing distance and then trying to steal your bike with a few punches and kicks.
But that doesn’t sell bells, unless you get the hoodies to wear them.
1nickcFull MemberUncontrollable/Uncontrolled dog owners
The owner is shouting themselves hoarse trying to control the spaniel who unless there’s actual food involved, has very selective hearing. The idea that leashes exist comes as a surprise to both owner and dog. May get happy dog slober and /or doggy cuddle though.
2RustySpannerFull MemberThe Strava Bore:
Determined to ignore the fact that the towpath is the only alternative to a main road that doesn’t have pavements along it’s entire length.
The fact that they’ve driven to ‘the countryside’ for a bike ride entitles them to missuse a path that’s the local’s safest way to go about their daily activities.
1charliedontsurfFull Member@matt_outandabout
Indeed… and because they are city folk and don’t understand how the countryside works, they assume that no one else could ever be out here in the middle of nowhere… whilst they get jiggy 300m from a busy NT carpark and cafe.There was a paragraph on this but the magical editorial wand was waved and all the rudeness was taken away.
1BruceFull MemberI got round all these problems. I did my kayak training on the canal. No bell, no random peds no ding,ding ,ding cyclists asking for their bell to be inserted into them. I did once have a staffy jump on my spray deck but nothings perfect!
1RustySpannerFull MemberThe Shedless:
Usually a miserable middle aged bloke accompanied by a bored dog, occasionally smoking a cheeky spliff.
Desperate to get away from home but is barred from the pub and doesn’t have the imagination to get a proper hobby.
1MoreCashThanDashFull Memberthe magical editorial wand was waved
Strange euphemism….
1gazzab1955Full MemberThere was a paragraph on this but the magical editorial wand was waved and all the rudeness was taken away.
@charliedontsurf really? I remember not so long ago that there was a very long thread on here about encounters while out on a ride with naked folk performing various forms of “exercise”, there were some very graphic descriptions.1IdleJonFree MemberThe owner is shouting themselves hoarse trying to control the spaniel who unless there’s actual food involved, has very selective hearing. The idea that leashes exist comes as a surprise to both owner and dog. May get happy dog slober and /or doggy cuddle though.
I had one of these, last week, combined with
Missed the ‘never happy bloke’
And it is always a bloke! No matter how slowly, politely you approach him, it will always be wrong. If you say ‘excuse me’, he will respond with ‘get a bloody bell’, whereas if you ring your bell he’ll pull a sour face and tell you ‘just because you’ve rung you bell doesn’t mean i’m jumping out of your way!’. To be fair we knew that.
His spaniel wanted to play, not be on a lead, but as I rode past slowly he muttered something about ringing a bell, as if my ringing a bell would have got his dog on a lead any quicker. This led to a new category of Trail User, Apoplectic Cyclist Who Later Felt Guilty About The Robust Anglo-Saxon Phrases, Deserved As They May Have Been. 😀 or maybe 🙁
1RustySpannerFull MemberI imagine raised heartbeats, meaningful looks, glitter exploding from the tip of wand at the, er, climax of the debate.
Followed by a quick cuddle and a discussion about whose turn it is to put the coffee on.2BeagleboyFull MemberI just bought a bell. What on earth happened? I was suddenly overcome with a sudden need and desire for a new bell. I should probably get back into the lab and do some work before I buy a new bike to put the bell on.
C.
1barneyFree Member.@gazzab1955 I suspect it’s probably something to do with the difference between forum postings which are cunningly hidden in – er – lots of other forum postings, and editorially sanctioned ejaculations that go up on the front page and are frantically spaffed about on social media.
I may well be wrong, though.
1Phil_HFull MemberPay the 900kg gatekeeper off with a polo and live to ride another day.
A word of caution, Don’t pay Dobbin off with a sugarfree polo. Anyone standing to the rear of the equine will not thank you!
One sugarfree mint is like a dose of Picolax for horses 💩💩nedrapierFull MemberBring question about the bell, how is it serviceable? I liked mine, but eventually the nubbins wore down so it would just slip to always on at the slightest bump.
I was going to correct the bring/boring typo, but decided to leave it.
2mjsmkeFull MemberThe “Stop! My dog wont bite”
Ride past slowly and their 80kg dog starts barking and chasing. Then the owner shouts out “Stop! My dog wont bite” Well, I don’t fancy taking my chances with a dog thats bigger than me and howling at me. I’m riding off.
charliedontsurfFull MemberTimber say “It’s built stronger, and all parts are now completely modular, including the cable and clapper ringer system. If anything wears out or breaks, you can replace it quickly and easily. So ride hard, ride often, crash into stuff; we’ve got ya!”
1zippykonaFull MemberThe mum militia.
5 prams across with the newest mum in the middle. They own the park and anyone else is a baby murderer.1towzerFull MemberYou missed out the “doggy litterer”, the latest dog owner technique on the ridgeway appears to be park car, get out, the dog will then rush to have a crap within 50 yards of the car, which is either not noticed and left or even better(*), noticed and bagged but left there (on the main path) so it can (*allegedly) be picked up on the way back to the car.
2AnneFull MemberYou missed the ‘professional’ dog walker with a pack of a dozen dogs randomly running around, who once they see ‘prey’ aka a bike start chasing while the ‘professional’ dog walker keeps staring at their phone. Only chance is stealthy passing why they are distracted by another victim. Sorry a bell won’t help!
1matt_outandaboutFree Member@Anne +1
@charliedontsurf – amorous couples increase in number dependent on:
– proximity to a countryside cafe or pub
– proximity to a city
– a calculation around late summer and evening rides
– Falkirk1hardtailonlyFull MemberMaybe it’s just where I (sometimes) ride, but you’ve missed out the self-appointed CROW lawyers when I’m riding a footpath (or a trail that has no designation whatsoever).
“You’re not allowed to cycle along here you know”
“This is a footpath you know”
Etc.
Or, the gun-wielding gamekeeper that jostles and barges and intimidates if you ride a public footpath across a grouse Moor, but thinks nothing of tearing up the trail on his quad bike!
1fossyFull MemberA “gang of hoodies” robbed a woman of her £3k TREK eMTB at 5pm last week – about 30 minutes before I go past the same location – I did wonder why I spotted someone with a MTB helmet on but no bike – time to change the commute route.
1docrobsterFree MemberI rang my bell multiple times on Sunday on the curbar/froggatt edge path in the peak. All was fab. No problems at all. Even the group of DofE practice kids walking 3 abreast carrying rucksacks twice the size of themselves filtered into single file on the left as I rolled past.
Ding dong 🔔🛎️2oldnickFull MemberThe DoE kids are a highlight in the Peak, either ecstatic or (more usually) wet and wondering about their life choices.
4ThePinksterFull MemberYou’ve forgotten the Chain Reaction Ramblers.
These are normally a group of walkers, average age of 73, with enough gear to scale the north face of the Eiger whilst walking wide forestry roads on popular FC land.When approaching by bike from behind and ringing a bell the most rearward one will shout “BIKE!” which echoes towards the front of the pack, getting louder each time while they ricochet off each other and the edges of the trail like some kind of human Brownian motion.
matt_outandaboutFree MemberCame back to say the other trail users are the long cream puffy jacket, bobble hat, impossibly white trainers, small dog and selfie for insta ready Brigade…
1piscoFull MemberKeen to try out my new Timber Bell, I set off on my bridleway/xc commute, and had three bellworthy encounters:
– Bloke and dogs heard me a mile off, and gave me an “ok mate I’ve seen you, stop bloody digging now” gesture.
– Old man with a cane and J Mascis hair, who shouted “Gor Blimey! Why don’t you ring a bell” as I passed.
– Bloke and dogs heard me a mile off and smiled as I passed.
northernsoulFull MemberI don’t fancy taking my chances with a dog thats bigger than me and howling at me. I’m riding off
I came across a lovely 14 month old vizsla last week on one of our local routes. In the end I stopped and said hello as it just wanted to play. On top of that, I didn’t fancy my chances of cycling off and leaving it (it could run faster than I can cycle).
1zomersetgliderFull MemberRTFH- reluctant town family hikers- only one of the parents wants to be on the hike, the others want to be at home- watching game shows and playing on their X-Box’s, one of them will be walking along with their head in an iPhone trying to order a KFC via Uber Eats, another member’s focus would be dodging any mud or puddles as not to get their white Air Jordan’s dirty, all inappropriately dressed for hiking, (apart from the one parent who wants to be on the hike, who is dressed as if they have just walked out of a GO Outdoor’s changing room) All of them are walking 4 abreast on the trail, all of them don’t know your coming, & despite many “rider” and “coming through” calls they still don’t know your coming. carnage.
georgesdadFull MemberWe have a seemingly unique brand of trail grannies. They pop out of nowhere like wrinkly ninjas, usually jogging or powerwalking up the bikes-only singletrack as I’m heading down, at pace. I suspect their own laboured breathing is all they can hear. They certainly can’t hear a bell, squealing brakes or my arse letting go at the thought of taking out someone’s nan.
We also get the grumpy dog walkers who treat the NCN as a dog toilet. Most of them CAN hear a bell, but still choose to force you to a stop while they drag Buttons, Shirley and Mr Flibble back out of the bushes on the other side of the doubletrack while spouting about how their dogs are frightened of bikes you know and you should find somewhere else to ride. On the National Cycle Network.
Don’t get me started on joggers with bloody headphones in. Many a time I’ve been tempted to kick one into the canal after riding at shuffling pace up the narrow towpath.
Our horse riders are all very friendly. So there’s that.
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