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  • Is May about to call an election?
  • ransos
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    Whether you call 75 seats a landslide I don’t know but its going to be a very clear Tory win.

    Not long ago, you were saying 100-150 seats. If the opinion polls are fabricated, why have you changed your mind?

    dragon
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    A frustrated Tory might say that.

    So you think people like Diane Abbott are good then? Or Corbyn’s performance on Womens hour?

    I think your bias means you can’t see the faults on all sides.

    Malvern Rider
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    martinhutch that has floored me.

    Greg Knight is so ****** BADARSE that he has a PUFFIN in his coffee. Bet he doesn’t even need to ask for it. They just, you know, DO it and hand it. Smooth. (Swoons a little)

    PimpmasterJazz
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    This election has to be of the lowest quality I remember, both main parties are filled with people who are just hopeless and are actively disliked internally and externally.

    Yes and no. I firmly believe it’s a turning point and the most important election in recent history. With the recent political turbulence I don’t think it’s an accident all the candidates are marred in some way.

    What is nice to see is fact-checking, and not a complete reliance on paper media (which has been – predictably – utterly shocking in its portrayal of the campaign).

    kimbers
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    – Dianne Abbott is probably the best example of this at present but I’m sure there are many more in all 3 main parties.

    Abbott has been on the right side of history regards war in the middle East, May hasn’t even got that, coupled with her legacy as home sec and her disastrous campaign, I think I she safely takes the biscuit.

    Couple with this with the systematic abuse and value judgements made by the left on anyone they disagree with and

    Still you managed to blame mean lefties for picking on snowflake right-wingers so all is good 😉

    Malvern Rider
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    Doublepost

    martinhutch
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    Greg Knight is so ****** BADARSE that he has a PUFFIN in his coffee.

    Saw that too. Top level Bilderberg stuff right there. 🙂

    ulysse
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    Does anybody else think Diane Abbott might be actually ill?
    Just look at her performance pre election on political talk shows, she’s normally sharper than at present?

    Malvern Rider
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    Saw that too. Top level Bilderberg stuff right there.

    😆

    3 min 22 is most worrying. Imbibing the Dark Lord’s invisi-jizz, or giggling uncontrollably at Trumpmania’s positive effect upon her being? Either way I’m out.

    dazh
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    Does anybody else think Diane Abbott might be actually ill?

    I would accept that she might have something going on. If that’s the case though and it prevents her from carrying out her duties as shadow home-sec then she would have had a ready-made and respectful reason for stepping aside. Whatever the reason, it at least means she we have no further part in this campaign, which is probably a good thing. Theresa May will be extremely jealous though, she’d jump at the chance of calling in sick.

    ransos
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    So you think people like Diane Abbott are good then? Or Corbyn’s performance on Womens hour?

    To take Corbyn’s performance on Woman’s Hour, he reacted by apologising and supplying the correct figures. In contrast to the Maybot, it gives me the sense that he’s actually a human being.

    mikewsmith
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    May’s performance in the leaders debate was flawless, she didn’t make a single mistake in anything she said.

    ulysse
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    May talked a lot, and said nothing?

    ransos
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    May’s performance in the leaders debate was flawless, she didn’t make a single mistake in anything she said.

    Time to re-post her interview with the Plymouth Herald:

    The Herald: “Two visits in six weeks to one of the country’s most marginal constituencies – is she getting worried?”
    May: “I’m very clear that this is a crucial election for this country.”
    TH: “Plymouth is feeling the effects of military cuts. Will she guarantee to protect the city from further pain?”
    M: “I’m very clear that Plymouth has a proud record of connection with the armed forces.”
    TH: “How will your Brexit plan make Plymouth better off?”
    M: “I think there is a better future ahead for Plymouth and for the whole of the UK.”
    TH: “Will you promise to sort out our transport links?”
    M: “I’m very clear that connectivity is hugely important for Plymouth and the south-west generally.”

    aracer
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    <whoosh> @ulysse

    mikewsmith
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    ulysse – Member
    May talked a lot, and said nothing?

    The called in sick and sent Amber Rudd one

    kerley
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    Or Corbyn’s performance on Womens hour?

    So what, he got a but flustered in an interview. That takes nothing away from what he has done and continues to do and more importantly what his intentions are if in government.

    Compared to what May’s intentions are – presumably to continue to run down public services, take money from poor and disabled and give tax breaks to the rich. I say presumably because the manifesto gives nothing away and she gives away even less.

    ulysse
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    Told ya. Talk a lot, say nowt

    aracer
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    She didn’t talk at all

    kimbers
    Full Member

    Couple with this with the systematic abuse and value judgements made by the left on anyone they disagree with and

    for just5mins to try and pull him out of his parallel universe



    now just5mins stay after class and write

    ‘I must not make shit up on the internet’ 100x

    molgrips
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    So – the latest Yougov simulation thingy shows 304/266 Con/Lab. Now I know it’s highly controversial and the other polls don’t agree, but ignore that for the moment.

    Have there been shock results on election day that have gone against the polls by as much as 19 seats? What are the biggest upsets in modern times?

    jam-bo
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    werent the 2015 polls showing a labour win?

    ulysse
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    In 2015 we didnt have a “Labour” party. Just a really shit brand name offering more Tory policy with a red badge sewn on.

    ransos
    Free Member

    werent the 2015 polls showing a labour win?

    Most polls predicted a Tory win, though I think the margin was larger than predicted.

    Solo
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    ulysse – Member
    Told ya. Talk a lot, say nowt

    aracer – Member
    She didn’t talk at all
    😆 STW classic gold, there!

    molgrips – Member
    Have there been shock results on election day that have gone against the polls by as much as 19 seats? What are the biggest upsets in modern times?

    Perhaps the Madrid bombings in 2004.

    And so we find ourselves on the receiving end of three significant terrorist events in as many months, the latest only days before a G.E.
    Then Labour use that event to criticize the Government without, it seems, stopping to consider that they could be doing exactly what the terrorists want, in using the latest attack to convince people to vote in a certain way.
    Imo, it’s no coincidence there was a terrorist attack, days before the G.E. and therefore Labour appearing not to understand the strategic significance of this, or that Labour do understand this and seek to gain by it, is quite disturbing, imo.

    Malvern Rider
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    molgrips – Have there been shock results on election day that have gone against the polls by as much as 19 seats? What are the biggest upsets in modern times?

    ulysse
    Free Member

    A larger majority yet only 25% of the electorate voted for them, suggests a total lack of opposition.
    See Ed Balls, Liam Byrne, Liz Kendal, Rachel Reeves, Yvette Cooper… They were espousing Tory policy. Why would a socialist vote for them, And this socialist certainly didnt. This socialist certainly couldnt.

    martinhutch
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    So – the latest Yougov simulation thingy shows 304/266 Con/Lab. Now I know it’s highly controversial and the other polls don’t agree, but ignore that for the moment.

    That seems hopelessly optimistic, but I’m torn whether a Labour/SNP coalition/pact would be an utter shitshow or a decent moderation of the hard Brexit frothers.

    Perhaps the Yougov poll is a secret mechanism to terrify English pensioners into coming out in the rain to vote.

    Imo, it’s no coincidence there was a terrorist attack, days before the G.E. and therefore Labour appearing not to understand the strategic significance of this, or that Labour do understand this and seek to gain by it, is quite disturbing, imo.

    It’s a good job the Conservative party would never seek any advantage in such a situation by suggesting their opponent was soft on terror.

    kimbers
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    after bexit I dont trust the polls, even jambs was parroting them the night before the vote saying would be a close remain win iirc

    ICM & Comres both showing 10+ point lead for the tories vs yougov showing just 1-4% lead
    358 guy was saying that UK pollsters have a terrible track record and their margin of error was huge

    I agree with martinmuch the pensioners frottaged up on daily mail and telegraph stories of comrade corbyn will be out in force & save Maybots bacon

    elsewhere

    Hiding Abbot away was a wise move Thornberry making Rudd look rudderles on Womans Hour

    ratherbeintobago
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    Perhaps the Yougov poll is a secret mechanism to terrify English pensioners into coming out in the rain to vote.

    That suggestion has been made.

    molgrips
    Free Member

    after bexit I dont trust the polls

    Apparently the same YouGov simulation that is giving NOM for the Tories got Brexit right….

    ulysse
    Free Member

    Remember, YouGov is directed by a Tory, so conflict of interest there in any selective poling or skewed weighted questions

    YouGov is an international Internet-based market research firm, headquartered in the UK, with operations in Europe, North America, the Middle East and Asia-Pacific.[2] It has no known connection with the UK government despite the name. Stephan Shakespeare, the firm’s CEO as of 2017, once stood as a Conservative candidate for Colchester; he was also a Conservative Party pollster.

    YouGov was founded in the UK in May 2000 by Shakespeare and Nadhim Zahawi. In April 2005, YouGov became a public company listed on the Alternative Investment Market of the London Stock Exchange.[3]

    Shakespeare has been YouGov’s Chief Executive Officer since 2010.[4] Roger Parry has been YouGov’s Chairman since 2007. [5] Political commentator Peter Kellner was YouGov’s President until he stepped down in 2016. [6]

    YouGov is a member of the British Polling Council.[7]

    igm
    Full Member

    Just listened to women’s hour.

    Rudd ok but sounding like part of the past

    Thornberry came over very composed for the most part and fairly open. Abbott may or may not be ill but Thornberry was a better choice.

    I hadn’t realised May tried to cut the police further but got vetoed by Osbourne of all people.

    As an aside does anyone else thing Amber Rudd sounds like a real ale from Somerset. As in “I think I’ll have a pint of Amber Rudd if you’re buying”.

    aracer
    Free Member

    Because the Tories weren’t trying to make any political capital out of it at all 🙄

    Of course IF it was intended to influence people voting it would seem likely the intention was to get people to vote for the party more traditionally associated with law and order. It’s hardly Labour’s fault that the Maybot personally presided over a huge cut in police numbers.

    igm
    Full Member

    There’s some desperate Tories on here. Still think they’ll win though.

    outofbreath
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    werent the 2015 polls showing a labour win?

    On percentage they were saying neck and neck.

    On predicted seats it was looking like the Blue party were a million miles away from being able to form a government. I started a thread about it at the time:

    http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/election-not-that-close-at-all

    I notice this time the media are being very cagey about projected seats, I don’t recall those caveats last time.

    binners
    Full Member

    Solo » Then Labour use that event to criticize the Government without, it seems, stopping to consider that they could be doing exactly what the terrorists want, in using the latest attack to convince people to vote in a certain way.
    Imo, it’s no coincidence there was a terrorist attack, days before the G.E. and therefore Labour appearing not to understand the strategic significance of this, or that Labour do understand this and seek to gain by it, is quite disturbing, imo.

    U OK HUN? XXX

    mikewsmith
    Free Member

    I think what solo was trying to say was jezza and isis sitting in a tree…

    lucorave
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    As an aside does anyone else thing Amber Rudd sounds like a real ale from Somerset. As in “I think I’ll have a pint of Amber Rudd if you’re buying”.

    Always seems more of a bitter to me.

    outofbreath
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    It’s hardly Labour’s fault that the Maybot personally presided over a huge cut in police numbers.

    You could argue the opposite. If Labour had reigned in spending back in 2007/8 then cuts to Police numbers might have been less necessary later. (Labour had to overspend in 2007/8 because they were considering an early election – according to Blair’s book.)

    Mind ewe, Labour only had to overspend because voters wouldn’t vote for them if they didn’t.

    So the real blame, as always, lies with us, the voters.

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