iDave Diet Joinee

You see, Molgrips, Yeti still doesn’t believe it’s me in the pic. No joke.

How much do you think your diet increases the risk of colon cancer by, iDave? Always a risk when you increase the proportion of proteins and fats in your diet thus generally increasing meat content and slowing passage. changing the types of carbs won’t help much when they are a minority part of your intake.

Edukator – it is a joke. I don’t care if it’s you in the picture or not, would be funny if you’d followed my request 😀

The baked beans on the head with todays paper is a long standing internet joke and was used on here to challenge my assertion that I’m a man.

I’m saying there’s nothing wrong with the carbs you recommend eliminating

What’s your evidence? And ‘well me and my mates are thin’ isn’t scientific enough.

Always a risk when you increase the proportion of proteins and fats in your diet thus generally increasing meat content and slowing passage

If you read the diet plan, you’ll see that it recommends loads of beans and vegetables. A diet rich in beans and veg results in pretty good bowel function.

molgrips is right……i am eating no more meat and fat than i was prior to going onto the plan.
i am however eating ton’s more veg and beans and salad.
and i shyte just the same amount………….. 😉

+1 ton, I’ve never been so regular, at least twice a day now! 😯

So you use your in joke to mock an adversary you are failing to counter with science and logic. Playground tactics. Laters.

I want some science from you please Edukator. Tell me exactly why there’s nothing wrong with lots of high GI carbs for everyone.

and might i add, todays lunch is a real cancer inducing feast…
olives, sun dried toms, prawns, dollop of hummus and carrot sticks… 8)

I’m eating chicken vindaloo and chana dhal. Lovely.

In other news – How to piss off Lance in one easy move 😀

to mock an adversary

😆

I’d rather we talk about specific foods, Molgrips. How about müesli and bread as examples of the grains iDave eliminates that all but diabetics can integrate into a healthy balanced diet compatible with sporting performances at the highest level.

I’ve already explained the science, refer back to my post on insulin response.

Was the pack of chocolate eggs to get down to 72kg some kind of in joke too, iDave? The stuff in the middle of those things is something with so much sucrose even I won’t eat them..

Nope, I was just eating them every evening for a while and I lost weight… no idea why or how. My guess was that I was exercising a lot and that my metabolism is kind of going balistic at the minute.

You’re getting confused. I never mentioned chocolate eggs. Or your photo.

How about müesli and bread as examples of the grains iDave eliminates that all but diabetics can integrate into a healthy balanced diet compatible with sporting performances at the highest level

Which sports events? A 10 mile TT or an Ultramarathon? Are they the same in terms of fueling. And as the thread was about weight-loss, can someone who needs to lose 3 stone eat as much of your favourite carbs as they want and lose weight?

What level of success have you had helping the obsese to lose weight with your methods?

And have you ever been over-weight yourself?

Edukator – Member

“Are you implying that some carbs are ‘better’ than others?”

I’m saying there’s nothing wrong with the carbs you recommend eliminating, the list that started grains, pasta… . They are no worse (and IMO are beter) than the lentils you advise, particualrly if you intend to go running in the next 36 hours.

I’m interested in the science behind that last bit. If you’re running in the next 36 hours, you’ll want plenty of glycogen in your body. But why does it matter if you got that glycogen from lentils or muesli?

My credentials – BA, MA and PhD, 75kg and 6’1″ giving me a BMI of 22, i lived with sports scientists for 3 years, i have an all access pass to lots of journals, I got 909 points on fitocracy yesterday, i have brown hair, size 12 feet and support Pompey.

support Pompey.

It was all going so well. Your contribution will have to be referred to a committee.

shut up dave he’s already explained the science in his post about insulin…. remember, you eat something.. your body produces insulin, after a while the insulin calms its tits and the body is back to normal. why wont you let him eat his god damn moosly?!

how on earth do you think he got a body that fine for an older, not so rpetty chap? god damn meuslee thats how. if you dont believe the nutritionist who worked for a a chocolate companies advice then i challenge you to post up a photo of yourself as proof not eating moosli makes you a winner.

obviously edukator looks very good for a oldish boy, and i reckon by looking at his physique, that he is one of those lucky people who can eat pretty much whatever he wants, without put any weight/fat on.
unfortunatley, we are not all the same, and some people do put fat on pretty easily.
and not eating bulky stodgy carbs is proving to be (to me, a fat knacker) a good way to cut the bulk.

quiet ton, i’m having none of this rubbish. i know for a fact you’re addicted to fish pie and thats full of pie. pie is fed on grains and muesli dont you know.

HOW DO YOU ANSWER THAT THEN iDAVE?!

iDave – Member
support Pompey.
It was all going so well. Your contribution will have to be referred to a committee.

Dammit*. Does one have to follow a top division side to qualify? I listen to podcasts about Arsenal…

*What did the fish say when it hit a concrete wall? Dam.

how many fish does it take to change a lightbulb?

none, they live in water. water and electricity don’t mix. remember that as it might save your life one day.

No, fueling for 100m, 10km, 20km, 40km and longer won’t be the same. Answering two questions in one: high fibre lentils proabably won’t be a problem over 100m so long as there’s a toilet handy during the warm up but I’m not the only runner to cut out beans/lentils when I’m intending to run (as opposed to jog) for an hour or more in the coming 36h. Beans/lentils and very fatty foods give lots of runners the runs.

Whereas muesli has similar properties to Imodium.

My credentials – BA, MA and PhD, 75kg and 6’1″ giving me a BMI of 22, i lived with sports scientists for 3 years, i have an all access pass to lots of journals, I got 909 points on fitocracy yesterday, i have brown hair, size 12 feet and support Pompey.

I have access to Wikipedia.

Check. Mate.

how many fish does it take to change a lightbulb?

none, they live in water. water and electricity don’t mix. remember that as it might save your life one day.

Care to explain electric eels?

I’m sorry, did your head explode? …OR DID I JUST BLOW YOUR MIND!

I get on fine with müesli (we’re not talking Alpen here), Cap, if you have problems with müesli try toast or pancakes; grains in a more refined form with less fibre. Wash them down with grape juice rather than orange juice. If you have problems with müesli I’d be very surprised if you got on with lentils and fatty sausage for breakfast.

Low GI for Breakfast ?

Foods with a high index are rapidly digested and result in high fluctuations in blood sugar levels. Foods with a low glycemic index produce gradual rises in blood sugar and insulin levels and are considered healthier

the electric eel is a myth made up by creationists to try and prove evolution jamie. DUH.

how many fish does it take to cross the road?

none, fish dont cross the road, remember to look both ways when crossing the road guys, it might save your life one day x

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A nice article lacking in examples of real food, Solo. Apart from almonds (which are present in my Müseli), what examples of suitable breakfast foods does it give?

Edukator – Member
I get on fine with müesli (we’re not talking Alpen here), Cap, if you have problems with müesli try toast or pancakes; grains in a more refined form with less fibre. Wash them down with grape juice rather than orange juice. If you have problems with müesli I’d be very surprised if you got on with lentils and fatty sausage for breakfast.

When did this become about my gut? You’re the one who can’t digest lentils without needing a toilet nearby for the next day and a half.

I’ll ask again… assuming your gut can cop, why is glycogen from muesli better than glycogen from lentils when preparing for a race?

edit – what else is in your muesli? Wouldn’t it be amusing if it was low GI!

squabbling

Squabble.

That word has always amused me.

I know, I’ve a teeny, tiny, mind.

Whereas muesli has similar properties to Imodium.

Since you wrote this, Captjon.

Can we get back to talking about real food please?

A nice article lacking in examples of real food, Solo. Apart from almonds (which are present in my Müseli), what examples of suitable breakfast foods does it give?

Are they Low GI almonds…
😉

Ah !, so you are selectively reading some of the links posted.

No mention about how low GI is considered healthier then…

Ok, grains. Bread, pasta, made from wheat flour.
Phytate.
Found in processed grain.

Nondigestible Carbohydrates and Mineral Bioavailability

Generally, ?ber and compounds associated with ?ber in cereal products (e.g., phytates) have been
found to reduce the apparent absorption of minerals (such as calcium, magnesium, zinc and manganese) in
humans

Edukator – Member
Whereas muesli has similar properties to Imodium.
Since you wrote this, Captjon.

OK. Muesli keeps me regular, and lentils keep you within a certain distance of a toilet. It appears you’re saying that food affects people differently. Is that correct?

And again, why is your muesli created glycogen better than my lentil created glycogen?

My Müsli contains those grains iDave excludes whatever its G value.

iDave is the one distorting the normal view of high glycemie foods by including things normally considered low G such as grains. Oats are noramlly considered low G and excellent breakfast food but iDave excludes grains. Whole wheat bread is also considered low G by most people. Spaghetti is also considered low G by most people.

I fail to see why iDave excludes carbs that have a lower G than for example the parsnip which is very much a vegetable.

is it possiby because, as mentioned several times, its not a low GI plan, its a plan designed to take better control of the insulemic response?

sometimes i forget that not everyone is as clever as me, but then i read threads like this.

iGenius.

Wow – Jamie – man has evolved further than I ever imagined.