Ian Paisley dies

I really only remember him as the ‘shouty bloke with the funny voice’ from the news when I was a kid but I don’t think he did a lot for tolerance and understanding in a country where it was desperately needed at the time.

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He requested flowers but no potpourri at his funeral.

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That man had a lot to answer for.

he did a lot for tolerance and understanding

Erm NO
unless you think being anti catholic, he called the pope the anti christ for example, and anti the belfast agreement helped
Also managed to keep homosexual legislation at bay till the 80’s – save Ulster from Sodomy or some such iirc?
He was many things but tolerant was not one of them.

Erm NO
unless you think being anti catholic, he called the pope the anti christ for example, and anti the belfast agreement helped
He was many things but tolerant was not one of them
[/quote]Read the post again

Read the post again

quite.

perhaps I should rephrase it;

“He was an intolerant, ranty, anti-catholic bigot who had to start his own church because none of the others would have him due to his extremist views”

Is Junkyard a BBC editor?

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a good politician who proved that everyone has to change sometimes.

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Can I edit

My humblest apologies for getting that so completely wrong

I apologise
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Sorry OP

😆 @ Drac very good

IGMC

There will be Knarling and nashing of TEETH

Dont have any teeth

TEETH willll be proooovided

I don’t think he did a lot for tolerance and understanding in a country where it was desperately needed at the time.

Correct

That man had a lot to answer for.

Indeed

^^ Dave Allen, IIRC ^^ @Swelper

He seemed to stand in the way of anything that hinted at reconciliation and unity. However, he mellowed in his old age, and it may be true to say that without his uncompromising stance the disarmament of the IRA might not have come about.

I thought it was a bit quiet.

He was a horrible man full of hate. A major agitator who caused a lot of problems.

Good riddance.

He was a horrible man full of hate.

no more than the others,

Made Gerry Adams sound like the voice of reason.

Good riddance to bad rubbish! Now if Jerry and Martin could just go the same way I’ll be a happy man.

The Northern Ireland peace process would have happened 10 years earlier (at least) if it wasn’t forstubborn, intolerant, entrenched, bigoted idiots like him, and his ilk!

Just reading out a shopping list his voice would still convey hatred.

On a slightly different note, wonder how long it is till they give Northern Ireland a Scotland like referendum?

Don’t believe everything you see or read in the media.

He was a horrible man full of hate

when the press where about, but a decent bloke when they where not. Often seen drinking and joking with the other side in bars around Belfast and if he was your local MP, it didn’t matter what foot you kicked with, if you had issues, he’d do his best to sort them out.

Binners + whatever

The whole “No Surrender” and Ulsterman crap made many of us just wish the whole province would go away. Rigid petty stupidity.

Mark and Lard once did an advert for an Album: Ian Paisley sings the Beatles. With him just shouting the lyrics to Beatles songs in his full on ‘No Surrender!’ voice. That was quite funny

Not remembered with any fondness by me. Perhaps he can serve as an example of how bad things where and an incentive to never to return to that place.

IMO The IRA was disarmed after 9/11 as the US really started to understand the meaning of terrorism. In the 90’s in New York and Boston there where buckets collecting for “the struggle” in the Irish Bars. Not after 9/11 though.

when the press where about, but a decent bloke when they where not.

That makes it even worse.

To deliberately create a persona of hate, to preach a message of bigotry and hatred.

On a slightly different note, wonder how long it is till they give Northern Ireland a Scotland like referendum?

I always thought that once the Catholic population where in the majority, they would be given the choice to join Eire?

To deliberately create a persona of hate, to preach a message of bigotry and hatred.

I’d rather have that than the usual crap that most politicians play on ‘a persona of caring’ when they are only interested in serving themselves.

He’s in this

I’d rather have that than the usual crap that most politicians play on ‘a persona of caring’ when they are only interested in serving themselves.

He only agreed to power sharing once his party were the largest in NI, which meant he was First Minister.

How self serving is that?

only interested in serving themselves

his persona of not caring was surely driven by that too?

his son, who is also his namesake, is also a dickhead with some remarkably close and opaque relationships with property developers.

Compared to my auntie Margaret in (London)Derry, he was a moderate, open-minded liberal. By Christ she scares me.

Any of these commentators actually from Norn Iron or been there?

That footage of him heckling the Pope is pretty funny. They take his sign away, but he has an identical one in his pocket. This is a good profile of him, for those interested in the details…
interview extract

Any of these commentators actually from Norn Iron or been there?

What’s that got to do with it?

What a strange statement.

I’m not sure we need to visit either the North Pole to know it’s flipping cold or to visit a country to know when one of it’s politicians is doing their best to stir up sectarian hatred?

[for the record I went to Belfast for the day once]

Any of these commentators actually from Norn Iron or been there?

Aye,what’s it to you ya gobshite*

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He requested flowers but no potpourri at his funeral.

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Sure, Joking about dead people is just fine, even if it does concern a politically very sensitive subject. So long none of the jokes involve anything serious and beyond the pale, like a dog dying or something.

got it? People dying jokes? Fine. Dog dying jokes? No!

I’m not sure we need to visit either the North Pole to know it’s flipping cold or to visit a country to know when one of it’s politicians is doing their best to stir up sectarian hatred?

No but i think the issues on which you are commenting are a little bit more complex and more difficult to measure than temperature

No but i think the issues on which you are commenting are a little bit more complex and more difficult to measure than temperature

There are not many “issues” being commented on here. More the death of an ex-1st Minister, who held some very bigoted views.

He may of mellowed when he got older but he was still a bigot.

Or are you suggesting he wasn’t a bigot?