human rights or soft leftyism?

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Elfinsafety – Member
Ernie; why not check out all your posts this week, and count all the words (Word can do this), and work out how many have been spent on arguing. Trust me, you’ll find it truly shocking. Then, consider how much time and effort has gone into typing all those words. Then contemplate wether or not it was a positive,constructive use of time.

@ CA

I thanks you!

you sure the irony is not intended I assumed it was.
Elf knows he argues he is not that daft
Not like TJ who cannot see that he does not answer questions for example Just a thought

Maybe but Fred trots that line out all the time. If someone says “I was being intentionally ironic” it’s a get-out for everything!

As for TJ, well, I couldn’t possibly comment.

indeed al fair point on both counts 😉 and 🙄

Socialism is not Mother Nature’s way.

Well I chose to ignore it Junkyard, but since you’ve picked it up, then I guess it’s worth pointing out that despite many people believing it to be true, the premiss is false – in fact the opposite is true. Not that there’s a great deal to discuss, so I doubt whether it deserves a whole thread.

For millions of years before the advent of accumulations of requirements, and organised religion, human society was based on common ownership. In fact even today the very last remaining highly primitive societies, are also highly socialistic societies.

I didn’t say all foriegners did I ? There are many people of all races and creeds here who contribute to our society.The ones I don’t want here are the illegals and those here under false pretence and failed asylum seekers who play the system after killing young children

I don’t deny that I argue. I realise what an utter waste of time it mostly is. I’m not denying my own faults, or even suggesting that I don’t have any; I was only suggesting Ernie do the same. Cynic-al seems to need to ridicule others to feel good, because that’s all he seems to do on here. Hey ho. 😉

It is entertaining at times, just not worth making the effort on this thread, that’s all.

fair enough re clarification edric
ernie well obviously I agree I just wondered how he was going to explain the figure of a mother not looking after all her children equally.

before the advent of accumulations of requirements

When I wrote that it didn’t look as if it made any sense. When I just re-read it, it still didn’t look as if it made any sense. I’ve now realised that it’s because it doesn’t, in fact make any sense. Or very little sense at least. I guess I was thinking along the lines of “before the advent of accumulations of surplus“. Although TBH I’m not sure how much sense that makes either. I just can’t be arsed to go into a big long spiel about grain cultivation, surplus requirement, money, accumulation, etc.

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I was only suggesting Ernie do the same.

Your comments regarding my input on this thread are a fairly big exaggeration. I saw this thread go up and initially followed it without making any comments. It was towards the end of the second page before I made my first comment. You on the other hand, dived in straight away and posted the fifth comment. You’ve been on the thread ever since.

And whilst I initially decided not to get involved, I did eventually, mostly as result of the usual suspects, ie you and TJ, rolling out the tired old knee-jerk PC comments, and you waffling on about him being an Iraqi Kurd…….the significance of which, you still haven’t explained.

And contrary to your claims, your initial contributions were not “constructive” and then you got “bored”, your very first post was a complete piss-take of ton, check it – I just have. So don’t give me all that sanctimonious bollox 😕

As far as your plywood DIY coffee table is concerned, I’ve offered you advise which you’ve rejected out of hand……..now there’s gratitude for you 😐

How’s your one-legged 1970s sideboard getting on btw ?

You’ve been on the thread ever since.

Yeah but you’ve posted more words than I have. 🙂

As far as your plywood DIY coffee table is concerned, I’ve offered you advise which you’ve rejected out of hand……..now there’s gratitude for you

Well, you did give me a bit of advice, and I am grateful. But then when I asked for more advice you just became nasty and mean. 😥

I still love you though. X

TJ, rolling out the tired old knee-jerk PC comments,

Show me where I did this?

you’ve posted more words than I have

Well that’s hardly surprising.

Posting a carefully thought out, intelligent, coherent, rational, sensitivity, meaningful, reasonable, and enlightened comment, requires just a tad more words than a snidey dig.

Not that you would know of course 😐

you 3 are ace.
you make my life more complete, seriously………. 8)

Show me where I did this?

Jeeeez us ……….I got stuff to do and you suddenly roll up causing me to go scrolling down threads looking for stuff…….

“Its all part of the Murdoch agenda of string up anti immigration anti asylumn seeker feelings.”

“tired old knee-jerk PC comments”

you 3 are ace.
you make my life more complete, seriously……….

Thank you Ton! 😀

(Sits in corner rubbing own faeces all over self)

Its the truth tho Ernie. That is exactly what it is.

No it’s not the truth. The assistant editor of the Guardian has said, quote : “send him home” but he is not part of the Murdoch agenda of string up anti immigration anti asylum seeker feelings.

Your reaction to this story was a typical knee-jerk PC reaction. For you it is inconceivable that anyone other than a racist bigot, would want to send a persistent criminal who entered the country illegally, home.

. For you it is inconceivable that anyone other than a racist bigot, would want to send a persistent criminal who entered the country illegally, home.

Thats just rubbish. I don’t believe that, I have not said it on the thread.

I agree with deported convicted criminals and have said so on this thread

TandemJeremy

FWIW I actually have no issue with deporting crims that are not UK residents. I think it should be done more and more quickly.

Thats just rubbish. I don’t believe that

Well apparently you do. You automatically dismissed the story on the grounds that it was “all part of the Murdoch agenda of string up anti immigration anti asylum seeker feelings”.

That comment was in your very first post btw. Why even mention it, if you thought it wasn’t true ? You could have ignored the “Murdoch agenda” and just explained why the low-life should stay in the UK.

Actually I’m going to give way on this one TJ………..I am going to agree with you and say that you are not in fact PC.

But tell me TJ, how are you going to live with yourself, now that you realise that you are no longer politically correct ?

BTW, I look forward to you joining in and attacking the PC brigade with me in the future 8)

Ernie

Can you read?

TandemJeremy

FWIW I actually have no issue with deporting crims that are not UK residents. I think it should be done more and more quickly.

Its the truth tho Ernie. That is exactly what it is.

its not a TRUTH it is your opinion of it. It is a shame you fail to seperate your opinion from truth at times.

sometimes……..i wish i kept my big fat gob shut… 😀

I think we’ve all learnt something here Ton. 🙂

cynic – al seems to need to ridicule others to feel good , because that’s all he seems to do on here.
Hey ho .

I do plenty more, you’re too busy uttering war cries in your EPIC INTERNET BATTLES to notice.

This was fun. Think about what I’ve said. It’ll make you a better person.

And I won’t even ask for thanks.

I’m nice like that.

Now toddle off.

oh wow guys, this thread is a work of art, I’m gonna print it out and frame it!

as for the bad driving brown bloke, just shoot him, I haven’t seen him contribute one bit to this thread.

Ernie, can I employ you as some kinda consultant?, cos you see, I haven’t got an answer for everything, sometimes I just don’t know and I feel a bit thick, and I make mistakes. You’d be really handy 😉

I think we’ve all learnt something here Ton.

Well I’ve learnt that TJ isn’t politically correct, but more importantly, that he doesn’t think he’s politically correct.

What have you learnt Elfi ?

I actually just put my head in my hands. Physically. One palm cupping each cheek of my face. Elbows on knees. Fingers extending to forehead. I did this.

as for the bad driving brown bloke, just shoot him, I haven’t seen him contribute one bit to this thread.

but also, by that measure, I should shoot myself, as I have contributed nothing. Goodbye cruel thread!

What have you learnt Elfi ?

I have learnt that it is possible to not have to keep arguing with folk over something. It doesn’t really matter about ‘winning’, if you have confidence in your own beliefs. If others don’t agree, then leave them be; it can be an utter waste of energy arguing.

Think about what I’ve said. It’ll make you a better person.

I would, if only you said something that a) I don’t already know, and b) was actually interesting. If your own ego wasn’t so fragile, then maybe you too would see past your own need to ‘win’, and that you too could experience the same epiphany as I have. 🙂

I won’t charge you for this valuable insight though, as I too am really quite lovely. 😮

Kev; can I have yer bikes then? 😀

Please don’t despair, user-removed. It really isn’t all that bad. 🙁

Fred why do you have to get so nasty and personal?

Was it not obvious I was having a little joke?