How many people here employ a cleaner?

We’d love to get a cleaner. (young child, both working, both knackered, old house that needs more cleaning than we have time for).

Talked about it several times BUT… I’m just really uncomfortable with leaving someone to rummage through me pants drawer while I’m at work. 😳

the GF and i seem to be in the minority amongst friends here.

her sister sits at home all day with her little’un, doesn’t (read can’t) cook and lets her fella do it after a day at work (she made me a coffee in a coffee press yesterday as i was there to fit a door. she added water and instantly plunged the gauze thingy – no idea what so ever!!!). they arranged a deal that he cooks and she cleans. so she employs a cleaner. this was the arrangement long before the baby arrived.

was at a party the other week (i say party, it wasn’t. it was an event for one of the GFs mates to show off her baby. i was gutted and felt duped. screaming crying baby for 2 hours and no music or drugs allowed) and the topic “how much do you pay yor cleaner?” came up. i was shocked at how many had a cleaner. and this being Munich it is not as though we all live large house, let alone in vast mansions. in fact, this being Munich we all live in flats no bigger than 200 sq ft (70 sq M max).

i find it somewhat decadent that you can’t be arsed to clean up your own mess.

i’d be embaressed if we had a cleaner.

what was that about how middle class you are by how many people you employ???

Chuck Norris doesn’t have a cleaner. Mess just doesn’t mess with him.

Jesus Wept. No wonder the UK’s sliding down the table of major economic powers, with such bone-idle laziness! 😯

You can’t even be bothered to keep yer own house clean? Now, I could understand if you lived with someone who needed a lot of care and that, but come on; how many people on here work over 40 hours a week? Some who’ve posted on this thread probably do less than half that, even. Sybarites!

‘Oh we simply don’t have the time to do any cleaning we’re so busy’

Bollocks. You just think you’re too good to do it. Utter snobs. Get a bucket and a mop and get to it, yer soft bunch of shites! Got plenty of time to go mountain biking or sit rotting yer brains watching crap on telly, in’t yer, eh?

Did onece live in a shared place where a ‘cleaner’ came round an hour a week. Reality was she was a friend of the landlady, and little more than a spy tbh, making sure we were looking after the place. She was crap as an atual cleaner. We’d get calls from the LL cos we weren’t keeping the placy ‘tidy enough’, even though we were paying to live in our own home…

*ponders business plan for a bike/shed cleaning company*

I am married* into a family that believes firmly in not letting cash into the hands of strangers.

Consequently, my lazy-arsed student brother-in-law has to pull his finger out for four hours a week and clean our place. As with all things in the family, the price wasn’t negotiable, though I am allowed to bollock him if he doesn’t do a good job and he isn’t allowed to flounce. For someone so lackadaisical in other areas of his life, he does a remarkably good job.

It does cost more than the cash though cos the greedy fecker eats me out of house and home when he’s there.

I did have a problem with the idea of cleaners once (we used 3rd parties in our last place). But then I realised it’s just a time vs money thing.

*not actually married, but after 15 years might as well be.

she added water and instantly plunged the gauze thingy – no idea what so ever!!!)

Seriously – we have discussed and discounted the daft idea of having a cleaner in – having young children around means it only takes 2 minutes for it to be a tip again anyway so we just have a good clean every now and then (normally just before we have friends/family round).

Coo, Elfin, you really do rant about some frickin nonsense don’t you?

Big Hitters are now PC about cleaning?

FFS.

What are TJs thoughts ?

Coo, Elfin, you really do rant about some frickin nonsense don’t you?

What, the laziness of the British?

When you’re all doing cleaning jobs for the Chinese and Germans who’ve come and bought up this country (cos they’ve gained economic power through hard work and dedication and not sitting on their fattests arses in Yerp), then you’ll know I’m right. 😐

Class Traitors!

how many people on here work over 40 hours a week?

Given that you must post north of 50 times a day, Fred, I suspect you could do with pulling your finger out of your arse now and again.

Or just fill in the time doing a cleaning job.

I’m proud to be working class.

Actually I help a neighbour with his cleaning, as he has emphysemia yet apparently does not in any way qualify for a home help. So there.

Flattered that you keep tabs of how many posts I do a day though. Maybe it’s you what should pull yer finger out, eh? 😉

He’s got a point though mate 😉

No he hazzunt.

why so confrontational at the mo elfy? chill out 🙂 *hands over a mincepie*

Crikey, bit judgmental some people. If you think that anyone who has a cleaner is immediately either rich, lazy, or both, then I suspect my five yr old child could teach you a thing or two about the real world.

“I find it somewhat decadent that you can’t be arsed to clean up your own mess.”

Yes thats the hight of decadance, people who work long hours employing a cleaner – it’s like something out of the Borgias.

I am capable of cleaning my own mess, our cleaner cleans the house she doesn’t clean up after me, theres not a pile of dishes I couldn’t be bothered washing or anything like that. I consider it a better use of my time and my money to pay someone to do things (ironing, dusting, hoovering) I hate doing. When she’s cleaning on a saturday morning we’re out cycling.

I’m proud to be working class as gay as a window. Prancing around the house in my thong and feather boa, flicking my duster about like a chorus girl

FTFY 😀

When you’re all doing cleaning jobs for the Chinese and Germans who’ve come and bought up this country (cos they’ve gained economic power through hard work and dedication and not sitting on their fattests arses in Yerp), then you’ll know I’m right

Yes. The laziness of two people earning a decent living by working full time, and choosing to contribute to the employment of yet another individual? Dammit, they should just stick their money in a mattress and live off gruel – that’ll get the economy moving!

You can’t even be bothered to keep yer own house clean?
…We’d get calls from the LL cos we weren’t keeping the placy ‘tidy enough’

Love it. Classic Elfin logic 😆

how many people on here work over 40 hours a week?

Hello.

Bollocks. You just think you’re too good to do it. Utter snobs.

Priorities innit?

I suspect many folk on here are “Time Poor” and “Money Rich” (well “Money Comfortable” anyway)

Personally we’d much rather spend the spare time that we do have with our daughter and each other, rather than mopping floors, dusting and hoovering.

I’d happily buy some more spare time by paying for someone to do cleaning for us, if I could get over the trust issue.

Crikey, bit judgmental some people. If you think that anyone who has a cleaner is immediately either rich, lazy, or both, then I suspect my five yr old child could teach you a thing or two about the real world

Trouble is, no-one gives a flying monkey’s foreskin what he thinks 😀

so we just have a good clean every now and then

Don’t confuse cleaning with tidying.

We keep pour house tidy (clothes etc. away), but the cleaning (regular hoovering, bathroom, kitchen, windows, dusting, etc.) is time consuming and done by someone else.

The laziness of two people earning a decent living by working full time, and choosing to contribute to the employment of yet another individual?

Do you throw rubbish in the street because ‘it provides jobs for people’?

I just think one of the first principles of life should be ‘you clean up your own mess’
If you cant even be bothered to do that what else dont you bother with.

I’m proud to be working class.

Would have been quite normal for working class people to have some cleaning help.

You mean you’re just proud to be grubby 😀

gay as a window

I don’t get that. How can a window be gay? How does that work? 😕

littering is a bit different to employing someone to do some hoovering and dusting is it not?

silly elfin, why are you trying to start fights so close to christmas? *offers another mincepie as got bored and ate the original one*

I have been very tempted by this but as my OH is a scruffy bint it would just give her an excuse to make more of a mess and the place would only be clean for a shortime after they went.

The average on here seems to be a cleaner coming in every couple of weeks to do 2 hours.
Is it just me but seems bonkers. That averages out at 8.5 minutes a day.
Seriously. Are you guys that time contrained that you don’t have less than 10 mins a day to spare??
EDIT: And for the couples on here thats 8.5 mins shared…. thats 255 seconds a day!

We have a cleaner once a fortnight, cleans all the wooden floors, hovers, dusts and cleans the bathrooms.

like has been said above it gives me and the mrs some weekend time back, and the mrs gets stressed when the house is dirty so another reason why it makes my life easier.

God forbid any of you posh gits allow someone else to cook food for you. Lazy b’stards! Can’t even cook your own dinner? Fancy paying someone else to do it for you…restaurants I think they’re called. Meh, that’ll never catch on.

I’m not trying to start a fight, Fill;, just questioning people’s laziness.

Notice how everything takes longer to build and costs loads more than originally planned and stuff in this country?

Cos of laziness.

If people did their own cleaning and stuff, they’d appreciate the importance of a bit of hard work and be better at their jobs and the country would be in a better state their is now. As it is, the British are so lazy immigrants have to come over and do all the jobs we’re too snobbish and lazy to do. And then people wonder why there’s a Polish supermarket opens instead of a nice little tea and cake shoppe….

Flattered that you keep tabs of how many posts I do a day though. Maybe it’s you what should pull yer finger out, eh?

Something I read from someone who knows about these things.

But even I, going through the slack working phase that I am, would struggle to find 50+ new* things to say on here every day….

*oh, hold on….

I’m not trying to start a fight, Fill;, just questioning people’s laziness.

Notice how everything takes longer to build and costs loads more than originally planned and stuff in this country?

Cos of laziness.

If people did their own cleaning and stuff, they’d appreciate the importance of a bit of hard work and be better at their jobs and the country would be in a better state their is now. As it is, the British are so lazy immigrants have to come over and do all the jobs we’re too snobbish and lazy to do. And then people wonder why there’s a Polish supermarket opens instead of a nice little tea and cake shoppe….

Sounds like typical Daily Fail logic for the closed-minded & ignorant.

Do you throw rubbish in the street because ‘it provides jobs for people’?

No, I stick it in the big green bin outside my house, so that it can be moved around by people whose job it is to move it around. Where does one draw the line? Am I supposed to drive it to the tip? Dig the landfill.

And while we’re at it, am I supposed to extract my own aluminium from bauxite in order to can my cola drinks?

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We have a cleaner, gardener, window cleaner, food home delivery and a pick up ironing service. Why waste your own precious free time to do this when you can outsource and help with the unemployment!

I just think one of the first principles of life should be ‘you clean up your own mess’
If you cant even be bothered to do that what else dont you bother with.

Good point. I assume you don’t use binmen then? 😉

Edit: bah beaten to that point by 16stonepig

No, I stick it in the big green bin outside my house, so that it can be moved around by people whose job it is to move it around. Where does one draw the line?

the garden boundary?

Where does one draw the line?

I once had an entire country carpet-bombed into the stone age, so I could then employ my mates to make a tidy sum out of rebuilding it.