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  • nealglover
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    what is the point in subsidizing a figurehead and it’s offspring

    Don’t know, enlighten us with your wisdom.

    nealglover
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    Jivey, how about, for the rest of this discussion, you stop acting like a politician and speaking entirely in questions, with no answers offered at all.

    bobbym
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    Again,JHJ, what do you actually think or believe?

    jivehoneyjive
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    Fair enough…

    from what I can make of this:

    Under the uncodified British constitution, executive authority lies with the monarch, although this authority is exercised only by, or on the advice of, the Prime Minister and the Cabinet.[5] The Cabinet members advise the monarch as members of the Privy Council.

    Any claims that the Queen is just a figurehead is bollocks, especially given the secrecy surrounding the Privy Council, not to mention this link mentioning the attempts by the government to keep the Queen’s involvement hidden.

    With regards to the original questions:

    a) Just how many armies and intelligence services does the Queen have authority over?

    b) Does this mean that Tony Blair isn’t the only one to blame for the Iraq War?

    a) The Queen certainly has authority over the Armies and intelligence services of not only the UK, but also the Commonwealth Realms:

    The monarch is the head of state of each of the Commonwealth realms, charged with issuing executive orders, commanding the military forces, and creating and administering laws.[37] However, each country now operates under the Westminster system of parliamentary democracy and the concept of responsible government, meaning that the monarch exercises her powers only on the advice of her Crown ministers, who are usually drawn from, and thus responsible to, the elected chamber of the relevant parliament.

    Just how many Armies and Intelligence/security services come under her authority in all, I’m not entirely sure~ I doubt every last one of the Commonwealth Realms and British Overseas Territories have their own Armies and intelligence services, but those that lack their own will probably have local coverage on the Queen’s behalf.

    b) It certainly doesn’t seem that Tony Blair could’ve authorized war on Iraq without the Queen’s consent, especially in light of this:

    The Queen also vetoed entirely a private member’s Bill, the Military Actions Against Iraq (Parliamentary Approval) Bill 1999, that would have transfered the power to authorise military strikes against Iraq from the monarch to Parliament

    Whether that point will be acknowledged in the Chilcot report is yet to be seen, however it is worthy of note that John Chilcot is himself on the Privy Council.

    bobbym
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    Again,JHJ, what do you actually think or believe?

    CaptainFlashheart
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    It is worthy of note that you spout a load of drivel and don’t know when to stop.

    Makes you think, doesn’t it?

    jivehoneyjive
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    There’s always a lot of criticism floating about, but never much solid basis for that criticism…

    As it stands, the constitution of the government has smoke and mirrors at every turn… so much is still shrouded in secrecy, from the Privy Council, to Charles’ Black Spider Memos to the Monarchy themselves

    Do you have any firm answers on these matters?

    MrWoppit
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    Still no attempt to deal with the question of a psychological need to overlay what is essentially a chaotic universe with an artificial sense of order, like a religion.

    Anyway – here’s the facts. It’s on Youtube so it must be true…

    athgray
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    Just how many Armies and Intelligence/security services come under her authority in all, I’m not entirely sure

    Make finding out your homework excercise for the evening.

    MrWoppit
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    As it stands, the constitution of the government has smoke and mirrors at every turn

    The government does not have a “constitution”.

    jivehoneyjive
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    Again,JHJ, what do you actually think or believe?

    Succinctly put:

    Any claims that the Queen is just a figurehead is bollocks

    CaptainFlashheart
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    There’s always a lot of criticism pointless tosh floating about, but never much solid basis loads of “BANNED! NO REALLY, IT’S BANNED” ‘cept you can see it on Yootoob here” videos and lots of faux-enigmatic, “I wonder what that might mean?” for that unsubstantiated tosh…

    What do you think?

    jivehoneyjive
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    *yawn*

    MrWoppit
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    You don’t seem, despite strenuous efforts and many chimeric statements of non-fact trawled from the internet, to be convincing anybody at all, jhj.

    Does this give you pause for thought?

    How is it, do you suppose, that so many people are so unimpressed with what you present and seem to have accepted, as fact over such a long thread? Just one of many…

    jivehoneyjive
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    Well, I don’t want to bring anyone’s intelligence into question, but…

    😆

    MrWoppit
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    I see. So the problem is that everybody else is stupid but you are the intelligent and perceptive one, is that it?

    MrWoppit
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    Hopefully, you’re aware of the risks inherent in having that train of thought. I mean, for you.

    jaaaaaaaaaam
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    LAZZARDS! SHAPE SHIFTING LIZZARDS!

    MrWoppit
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    Yes, thanks jaaaa…m. I think we’ve done that one.

    jhj? Your superior intelligence?

    CaptainFlashheart
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    Junkyard
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    operates from 43 cities across 27 countries

    The queen has no interest in such small operations
    She is a very busy woman what with the armies to run, the govts to instruct, the MPS to blackmail, the security services to tell what to do, the tax havens to secure, the privvy councillors to instruct in her evil ways. To do all that and still manage to squeeze in all all those taxpayer funded holidays
    Impressive.

    CaptainFlashheart
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    And, if you need any further proof that you’re talking twaddle, JHJ, read this;

    I agree with Junky.

    MrWoppit
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    jhj, how long have you been awake since your last sleep?

    Junkyard
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    Harsh but amusing

    ernie_lynch
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    She is a very busy woman what with the armies to run, the govts to instruct, the MPS to blackmail, the security services to tell what to do, the tax havens to secure, the privvy councillors to instruct in her evil ways. To do all that and still manage to squeeze in all all those taxpayer funded holidays

    All that and she’s 88 years old! It doesn’t seem plausible, unless, unless…..she’s a a shape-shifting extraterrestrial reptilian alien!!!

    MrWoppit
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    jhj, do you ever feel that if you were to reveal your actual identity, you might be “disappeared” by malign, secret forces?

    Perhaps you feel that you need to stay awake to prevent this happening?

    Junkyard
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    We all fear the mods 😉

    jivehoneyjive
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    Is Woppit on something?

    He seems very agitated…

    MrWoppit
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    Do you ever feel threatened by unseen forces who are seeking you out because of secret knowledge that only you possess, or the like?

    MrWoppit
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    I’m pretty sure you understand what I’m getting at, but I need to go and get some shuteye myself right now.

    I leave you with this link, with only the best of intentions, which you can consider or dismiss of course, if I am wide of the mark, as you wish.

    http://apt.rcpsych.org/content/12/6/404

    jivehoneyjive
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    Dude, chill out, there’s not nearly as much to worry about as the news would have you believe.

    Sleep well and don’t let a discussion about some naughty people worry you, I’ve got it all under control

    jaaaaaaaaaam
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    CaptainFlashheart – Member
    LAZZARDS!
    HQ in Bermuda? They must be in on it as well!

    whoa dude, mind blown

    MrWoppit
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    I’ve got it all under control

    I think you’ll find that’s the other way round. Dude.

    McHamish
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    These threads are funny.

    Do you know, I swore allegiance to the queen when I was in the cubs. I’m just glad she never ordered us to invade Argentina or something.

    I had a Swiss Army knife, but the corkscrew was a little bent.

    mikewsmith
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    I had a Swiss Army knife, but the corkscrew was a little bent.

    Is that the queens fault? is it a way to destabilise the Swiss?

    CountZero
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    jivehoneyjive – Member
    There’s always a lot of criticism floating about, but never much solid basis for that criticism…

    nealglover
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    It is a hilarious quote that isn’t it 🙂

    The detachment from reality seems to be complete.

    jivehoneyjive
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    The detachment from reality seems to be complete.

    That’s a very astute observation covering anyone under the belief that the monarch is devoid of authority…

    nealglover
    Free Member

    Top class debating tactic there. The equivalent of…

    You must win arguments all the time *swoon*

    jivehoneyjive
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    Oh no, I fear we may have a love triangle situation brewing between you, I and Junky neal…

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