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It strikes me more often than not that,competitiveness with friends-colleagues can somewhat become too serious!
Yes it is or can be a sport,but come on now.
How competitive are you or your friends?

Myself i much prefer to pootle on quiet country lanes and bridleways taking in the scenery,wildlife that this country has to offer.
A stop at a tea room for lunch and finish for a pint in a country pub,that is cycling to me.
yes i know its not Rad but it suits me. 8)


 
Posted : 07/04/2013 6:58 pm
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STRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAVVVVVVVVAAAAA!!!!!


 
Posted : 07/04/2013 6:59 pm
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Very, i need to to feel true discomfort and have a 'final vinegar stroke' expression for me to feel like I'mreally riding, and if i don't finish with a thousand yard stare i feel like i've let myself down. I love it.


 
Posted : 07/04/2013 7:10 pm
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Cycling is a sport already?


 
Posted : 07/04/2013 7:11 pm
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Overtake me on my commute and I will hunt you down!


 
Posted : 07/04/2013 7:12 pm
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I'm not at all competitive, unless there's someone in front of me on my commute, then I have to hunt them down & overtake.

If I'm out on the MTB again I'm not at all competitive, unless I see someone in front of me.. etc...


 
Posted : 07/04/2013 7:20 pm
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Not that competitive! Still happy to have a go at ripping my or someone elses legs off sometimes.


 
Posted : 07/04/2013 7:29 pm
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Depends, with some it's just mates on a bike ride. There are 2 other fellas I ride with though and it's war. Nice friendly, chatty and matey war, but it's still war. Fastest up the climbs, on the descents, and quietly slipping into the big ring and giving it big legs while trying to maintain a straight face and conversation.

Thing is we only do it if it's just us three, and as a result a year or so ago we were all stupidly stupidly fit and fast, great feeling


 
Posted : 07/04/2013 7:35 pm
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I'm not even slightly competative. I don't know anyone who is.

(Ahem)


 
Posted : 07/04/2013 7:36 pm
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I am, am failing to increase my Road average and had a poor ride (but good time) in with an MTB in Wales this weekend.

I don't like it.


 
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I'm just happy to keep up.. 😀 and if I'm on my own, happy to survive..


 
Posted : 07/04/2013 7:40 pm
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when I want to be competitive I race or go riding with with a specific set of mates who all go like loonies.

Rides with a group are for pushing yourself but ultimately it's about riding with mates, which means at times riding with the slowest or folks just getting into biking and bringing them up to fitness rather than nailing all the climbs and gnarly bits dude, just to completely make them feel like they are slowing everyone down and a hindrance.

Absolutely hate all the alpha male insecure bollox that happens in so many sports/past times.


 
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Good thread op! I was thinking the same thing the other day, I myself never thought I was competitive until one of my clients told me how fast I was at descending, I'd never thought much about it before that but it had me thinking that I honestly cannot remember the last time or any time for that matter anybody overtaking me! I just will not let anyone overtake me on the descents, not even a pro on a full on downhill bike! I just will not let it happen! I'm quite confident in my biking skills, having taught people for a good number of years makes me think what I could have achieved if I'd have taken up full on downhill racing as a career. So yes I suppose I am a bit! 🙂


 
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[i]until one of my clients told me how fast I was at descending,[/i]

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I honestly cannot remember the last time or any time for that matter anybody overtaking me! I just will not let anyone overtake me on the descents, not even a pro on a full on downhill bike!

WOW!!


 
Posted : 07/04/2013 7:57 pm
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I just will not let anyone overtake me on the descents, not even a pro on a full on downhill bike! I just will not let it happen!

oooo so you're one of those slow miserable geezers who'll ride erratically rather than let a faster rider safely come past just to prove a point 😆

has surfmat got a doppelgänger?


 
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I'm just happy to keep up.. and if I'm on my own, happy to survive..

That!


 
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I myself never thought I was

That should be a red flag for the rest of the post.

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Posted : 07/04/2013 8:02 pm
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[quote=richmtbguru ]Good thread op! I was thinking the same thing the other day, I myself never thought I was competitive until one of my clients told me how fast I was at descending, I'd never thought much about it before that but it had me thinking that I honestly cannot remember the last time or any time for that matter anybody overtaking me! I just will not let anyone overtake me on the descents, not even a pro on a full on downhill bike! I just will not let it happen! I'm quite confident in my biking skills, having taught people for a good number of years makes me think what I could have achieved if I'd have taken up full on downhill racing as a career. So yes I suppose I am a bit!

Thanks "rich".


 
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He who has most fun wins.


 
Posted : 07/04/2013 8:08 pm
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Sometimes I pootle, when with some mates it's all about trying to break/kill/destroy each other over any given part of the ride.

Personally I ride most of the time with mates who enjoy dishing out the pain some of the time, but some of the time we'll have a break or a natter on a bit of trail or road or whatever - generally finished off with an impromptu sprint for some unknown finish point.

When I started riding I was a touch on the tubby side and most excellently unfit, my mates would basically race each other up a climb, wait for me to arrive and do one straight away with me blowing out of my bum hole. Wind the clock forwards and I can do it to them now, which is nice & all down to downright basic competitiveness.

That's how our riding group sees it and we all enjoy it.

On one specific LBS group ride there tends to be a faster group and a slower group, everyone enjoys the group they choose to ride in, if its faster expect faster, if its slower don't expect it to be fast. Only one lad has thrown up in the last 12months 🙂


 
Posted : 07/04/2013 8:16 pm
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Not in the slightest. I've ridden with folk that are, though - a funny old angle when you're not a pro IMO. It's one thing to be the best you can but a totally different thing to want to crush your riding buddies with your cycling prowess.

I blame the bike mags. And the French...


 
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I honestly cannot remember the last time or any time for that matter anybody overtaking me!

Well that is what happens if you set off last
Not very anymore I am middle aged and slower than I was 10 years ago. I am only racing against ageing and so far I am not winning


 
Posted : 07/04/2013 8:45 pm
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Strava addict. Sunday loops to take in segments.
Alway push hard up any climbs

But with group rides with my friends often
Chill out and chat. Unless its slowest person buys the beers


 
Posted : 07/04/2013 8:51 pm
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Not overly competitive but happy to go quick or chase someone down a trail etc. Not to see who won but to enjoy riding well. It's good to be pushed and to push others on at times.

In the end of the day it's take it or leave it. Strava is a bit of fun that can spice up a solo ride and stops me from easing off sometimes especially on some longer sections (we have some nice 3km+ segments here)

In the end if the day I went racing this weekend did 1 run didn't feel right and just walked away helped a mate and drank dome beer. Just as much fun.


 
Posted : 07/04/2013 8:54 pm
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Not at all

Lucky that, as my main riding mate is way fitter than me and very competitive so I'd be in a bad way on every ride if I tried it on


 
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Not really at all competitive with others though I have come to realise as I have got older that I am fairly competitive against myself, if that makes sense.

I always try and make sure that my times whether running or cycling are improving and always push hard so I'm properly knackered when I'm finished.

I don't really give a toss how I match up compared to others though.


 
Posted : 07/04/2013 9:03 pm
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Nowadays not in the slightest, I couldn't care less how i compare or whether my times are faster/slower/mediocre compared to others riding the same trails or suchlike.

Scroll back 8 odd years ago and i'd gnaw my own arm off to beat everyone and i had to have the fastest times round my local stanes, bit of a sad **** really so nowadays i just head out and enjoy it, my ride essential is my hipflask wi a decent malt, i have knocked the joints on the head though so i'm not totally irresponsible.


 
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I just will not let anyone overtake me on the descents, not even a pro on a full on downhill bike! I just will not let it happen!
oooo so you're one of those slow miserable geezers who'll ride erratically rather than let a faster rider safely come past just to prove a point
has surfmat got a doppelgänger?
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I'm not miserable, and I'm certainly not slow! I'm just being honest with myself, Infact it wasn't even me who noticed how quick I was downhill, I've been told by a lot of my clients in the past how fast I am. I don't think you realise how passionate I am about my riding, I'm willing to risk my life to get to the best times possible, I'm more than capable on my Scott genius so imagine how much quicker I could be on a full on downhill bike! But to be honest I'd rather give something back to the mountain bike community like spreading my knowledge and experiences and hopefully that can help riders through whichever categories of mountain biking they choose to do.


 
Posted : 07/04/2013 10:23 pm
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😥 that's just too beautiful, man


 
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if your fast and good on a bike your competitive. If your slow and prefer to pootle rather than KOM that section, then your not. Its how most of us humans are structured from an early age at school.


 
Posted : 07/04/2013 10:35 pm
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I'm a pootler. All for the cafe stops, the photo opportunities, the occasional peaceful moment listening to sounds of nature. But then again I'm always trying to better my Strava times, nudge up the leader boards and occasionally make myself feel sick!

I enjoy it all.


 
Posted : 07/04/2013 10:41 pm
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radoggair, not sure you're right there - most of the best natural sportsmen I've known have also been lazy bastards who never achieved what they could have if they'd been competitive or even just a bit committed

(no, I don't include myself in there)


 
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Pedalling in squares today (riding back from a race) I noticed someone about 1/2 mile behind me on a climb, had to reach into the suitcase of courage to avoid him/her catching me. Thankfully I stayed away 8)


 
Posted : 07/04/2013 10:57 pm
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Can be sometimes,but do still enjoy the rides wheres theres lots of laughing and banter,sometimes will go and just play on a few sections until i get them right.


 
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Not very. Oft to be found at the back of any group ride. Too finely-honed an instinct for self-preservation to ever even countenance trying to beat people downhill. At peak fitness, will take get a bit of a spurt on and be one of the first up a climb, but usually at the expense of being able to speak or ride a bike for about 15 minutes after getting to the top.

Having said that, I inadvertently bagged a KOM on a local Strava climb segment the other day. A truly rare event for me. I didn't even know it was a segment. I then noticed that someone else stole it back the next day. What did I do the day after? Went out on my [i]road bike [/i] , thrashed it up this gravelly bridleway and got my KOM back.

So, yeah, I'm not in in the least bit competitive. Not me. Ohhh no... 🙄


 
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With friends strangers anyone really, not in the slightest bit competitive. I like everyone to think they are better than me.


 
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radoggair, not sure you're right there - most of the best natural sportsmen I've known have also been lazy bastards who never achieved what they could have if they'd been competitive or even just a bit committed
(no, I don't include myself in there)
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This is somehow true of my own situation although I wouldn't say I've been lazy, maybe just ignorant of my own abilities, I'v always been committed especially when it comes to helping others hence the reason why I've taught and guided in the past, I think being competitive is a good natural streak that helps us achieve the best out of sports, as long as its in a controlled manner. 🙂


 
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Overtake me on my commute and I will hunt you down!

Yes you can try!


 
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Very. I've been racing Elite XC for the last three years. I've been MTBing for ages, but only got into the racing a bit later. I love it. I love the community that is built around Mountain Bike racing. A really good bunch of people that would be missing from my life if I didn't compete.
My dream is to compete in a World Cup. Another season of collecting points, and I hope I can get there!


 
Posted : 08/04/2013 7:08 am
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Twenty years ago I was probably pretty competitive (and was competing) but now, at 61, it'd be a pretty sad state of affairs if I was still like that. Some old duffer, mostly on a rigid singlespeed competitive??
I'm by no means the slowest rider around but I don't care that I'll never be the fastest either. It's actually quite a liberating space to occupy...

I'm just very thankful that I'm still fit enough to be able to enjoy riding bikes well enough for it to be satisfying to me. Being an ex trials rider I get as much (or, actually, far more) satisfaction from cleaning a tricky section as from being fastest up a climb or down a descent.


 
Posted : 08/04/2013 7:28 am
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I'm not a competitive cyclist at all really, Races are for racing, group rides are for working together and maintaining a pace that everyone can live with so you ALL have a good time IMO. Nobody want's to go for a Sunday pootle with some merciless racing snake who's only real goal is to drops everyone or have a pop at some KOMs and turn a ride into a race.

I do log rides on Strava but only so I can see how I'm getting on or where I've been, But I neither want or hold any KOMs, I like to keep an eye out for the 'PR' logo against a ride as it suggests I'm getting fitter...

A bit of competition from time to time is healthy, but to apply it to every aspect of your life indicates deeper issues IMO and can serve to suck the enjoyment out of otherwise quite fun activities.


 
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Extremely when I've a race number pinned on or training.

However group rides are groups rides and the emphasis is on fun, so the power meter stays at home.


 
Posted : 08/04/2013 7:53 am
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Very... but within obvious limitations.

I was at Swinley on Sat and did a couple of laps of the new blue while waiting for mates to turn up... i was trying bloody hard... Some guy set off just after me and caught me on gate 5.... but i kept him just behind till gate 12..... i then couldn't stay with him, but bloody hell i pushed hard to try to....

Sunday i did some XC stuff and was uber competitive chasing anyone and everyone down i could see... sadly... people are just way way off the pace unless tehy're quite serious.

The one thing i have stopped though is timing myself on rides... It destroys the feeling of fun, pleasure and exploration just for the hell of it.


 
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I guess my answer would be 'fairly' competitive, but not in a racy way (although I do keep thinking about entering some 4X or Enduro events that have 'oldies' categories).

I do try to beat myself (I'm another 'PR' Strava watcher) and will push when riding with others on occasion, but also I'm now old enough to know when I'm well beaten and its time to sit up and enjoy the view.

The one thing that does get my competitive nature going is not a speed thing but a skills thing. When I see other riders hitting or clearing stuff I haven't ridden I struggle to mentally let it lie until I have ridden it myself or fallen off trying. Still manage to keep some perspective though and so far haven't done anything silly that's totally being my current skill set.


 
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I'm pretty competitive, but only if I know the other people are like minded and up for a bit of a battle. It's pointless otherwise 🙂


 
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nope not in the slightest, I ride at my pace sometimes slow sometimes fast depending on my mood, got rid of the gps and enjoy my riding much more now. Used the race yer self feature once and thrashed myself by nearly 45 mins, did I enjoy the ride nope it was horrible and not why I ride, to be "on it" 100% of the time is being just a bit blinkered.


 
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I hate strava with a vengeance.
Yes, I am competitive but I realised strava was taking the joy out of cycling for me. Too many people thinking [i]strava is cycling[/i].


 
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Thrashed yourself for 45 mins? Sounds great 🙂 For me, a proper fast ride where you come back knackered is one of the best feelings 🙂


 
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I can be... I put quite a lit of pressure on myself to ride stuff. If I see someone else cleaning something that I'm struggling with I'm not very good at letting it lie. I'll keep trying until I do it / clean it or crash. I also like to see improvements in my riding, be it getting up a climb faster, linking more stuff together etc.

If I'm in the mood, I'll pick my pace up when following others up or down. I'm probabr more competitive on a downhill or a fun bit of singletrack. As I ride on my Tod most of the time, its difficur to be too competitive.


 
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I used to compete in other several sports (at a good-high level) and am very competitive in nature - to the point of hating whoever i was playing against. I didn't like the competitive me (i transformed into an instant barstord), so i stopped. When cycling i'm only in competition with myself and that seems to work. I don't race bikes anymore, and am unlikley to do so again - even for fun, because i know the old me would return.


 
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I don't think you realise how passionate I am about my riding, I'm willing to risk my life to get to the best times possible,


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my god are you being serious? i have never heard anything so stupid in all my life!

And wow there certainly is an abundance of competition on STW.
I will stick to my lovely steady rides 8)

But cannot wait to at least do a bit of downhill racing this year,including the Steel City Downhill to start my season off with a bang!


 
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I've been told by a lot of my clients in the past how fast I am.

"In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king."


 
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"And in the kingdom of the bland,
It's 9 o'clock on ITV."


 
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Not competitive at all. If I want to race, I run. If I want to enjoy myself I ride a bike. That said, I have more QOMs on strava than I expected to get when I signed up "just to measure my progress".


 
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Very competitive, with myself nowadays.


 
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Not very. I mess around with Strava but it's just a bit of fun. I race a fair bit but I can't say I compete 😉 Race mates but not the rest of the field really. Mountain biking's too important to me to turn it into just another competition.


 
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Not. I save my competitivness for this place.


 
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I'm really really non competitive. Sometimes I wish I was, then I could have an excuse to get up early and ride really fast with competitive type guys. As it stands, I just like riding bikes. I have good enough bikes.


 
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If I can keep up with my regular riding buddy I'm fine, as he is ten years younger than me and been riding a hell of a lot longer 😀

In techy section I tend to lead the way but in the fast smooth sections I let him get lead the way.
My brother on the other hand 3 years younger any down hill I get out of his way as after he spending 12 months in Whistler riding the bike park runs on his daily commute home, I know I'll just get in his way LOL


 
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Some of these posts go some way to explaining the Monday morning 'miserable roadie/MTBer' threads.
It seems the simple act of riding a bike has turned into a stat finding mission with a healthy dose of snide competition thrown in. I find it easy to separate;
Riding/rides
Training
Racing
When riding or training I don't care who or what passes me, as it's my time.


 
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I haven't got a competitive bone in my body. I have nothing to prove, either to myself or anyone else.


 
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I don't think you realise how passionate I am about my riding, I'm willing to risk my life to get to the best times possible,

my god are you being serious? i have never heard anything so stupid in all my life!
And wow there certainly is an abundance of competition on STW.
I will stick to my lovely steady rides
But cannot wait to at least do a bit of downhill racing this year,including the Steel City Downhill to start my season off with a bang!
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I've been riding bikes from a very early age in fact they say I was in the biking position on my 20 week scan!! 😀
But seriously though, it's not stupid at all! Although I was told that I was by the french locals while out guiding, I dont think they'd seen riders going down things i was doing 10 years ago on a fully rigid! 😮 Im just very passionate about my riding,, when you've been in the industry all your life you get a competitive streak, it's what makes us champions, I think maybe people who aren't competitive have a lazy streak to them, I've always been hungry for wanting to achieve nothing but the best, If it wasn't with mountain biking then it would be with rowing, but that's another story! 😆


 
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I hate strava with a vengeance.
Yes, I am competitive but I realised strava was taking the joy out of cycling for me. Too many people thinking strava is cycling.

Bad workman and tools? Nobody made you do it...


 
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Competition is my kryptonite.

Get me out with friends, we're having a good time, some encouraging banter being thrown around, i'm feeling good, not meaning to be up myself, i can be very good on a bike. Whether it be climbing or descending on the MTB or pulling a particular line/run/trick on my BMX.

Throw in competition, whether it be a race or that richmtbguru type of character getting their rubbish vibes everywhere, i become a complete nervous wreck.

I think it's the amount of pressure i put on myself in a competitive setting since in my head, i should be coming top 3.

I also hate going to all the effort of getting worked up, trying really hard and failing.

Good riding simply does not happen for me when i try, i really can't just switch on riding well.


 
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im not much, have a couple of mates i regularly cycle with and we try the odd sprint at certain points, and occasionally we will try up a hill too, but it doesnt matter who wins.
for the record, i 'usually' win a sprint, and either of my mates 'always' wins up any hill.


 
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I am way more competitive than anyone on this thread 😉


 
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On really competitive with meself. I think after a certain age *cough* you know what you can and can't do and the challenge is to maintain one's abilities without killing oneself.

If someone else is faster good for them if someone else is slower maybe they're having a bad day who knows who cares


 
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I don't see myself as competitive. I just like riding my bike and finding new places to ride. I've zero interest in races, Strava and other GPS pish of that ilk. It's fine when a mate tells me how much climbing we've done in a ride but that's pretty much the extent of my interest.

However, I'll happily push myself on big rides and embrace the hike a bike ethos of a carry for a ridge line trail, bike views or a lovely technical descent which will push my skills and encourage me to get better. Riding with my wife and friends, watching my daughter learn to ride, having a laugh with my mates on bikes, finding new trails - all of those things have meaning in a way that a position on a leader board will never give me. 😀


 
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Not as competitive as i am when i'm running, and NOWHERE near as competitive as Mulletus Maximus! 🙂 .


 
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Well it seems that the majority on this forum are competitive indeed.

I might start being like this if it improves my riding somewhat.

Steel City being the start.


 
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I'm the least competitive person here....


 
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I'm definitely more contemplative than competitive..

Having said that I prefer to finish every ride feeling that I gave it everything I had..


 
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I like a challenge, and do enter some local XC races (and the odd caper further afield - Kielder 100) but my fitness level is to cycling what boxing gloves are to a concert pianist (30 years of smoking - quit 2 years back) so I respectfully tend to challenge myself, and courteously get out of the way when getting lapped sometime mid-race! Racing for me allows me a chance of riding somewhere different as fast as I can manage, with a bunch of like-minded folks. I'd like to make the time to train more, but I'm enjoying my kids growing up too much to worry about it!


 
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