Help me choose a road frame.

I’m pretty content with my CAAD10 but “there must be something better out there” thought has got to me.

Current ideas:

Specialised E5 Allez. I like nice alu frames, it’s got nice tech and brand kudos. Probably not a bike for life.

Kinesis Aithein. As above but better value and an underdog.

Ritchey Logic. I had one before and loved the ride but not the weight. Possible bike for life if I can resolve that debate.

Cannondale Supersix evo. Test ride and looks make it the favourite, BB30 and price the downsides.

Just thinking aloud, any (non Di2) thoughts welcome…

Sarto Dinamica.

Too flashy 😛

Too flashy

Wrap it in electrical tape and fashion some traffic cone mudguards ala TJ?

why change one dull mid-range mainstream brand for another similar dull mid-range mainstream brand?
unless the new frame rides better, looks unique (custom paint maybe) and has a certain pride of ownership whats the point in changing?

You covered it there MrSmith, ride better and pride of ownership.

In any event…why not? You seem unable to see past the branding.

Genesis Volare 853? See oldgits thread.

You seem unable to see past the branding.

but i dont own a cervelo??

Too flashy?
Sarto will build the frames specifically for you and you can have whatever paint job you want.

Also…too expensive

I have a Kinesis Aithein in sweet orange colour in the work stand at the moment. Building it up with a new 105 groupset.

The black groupset is setting off that orange frame really nicely. It looks amazing! None of the pictures of similar builds on the web quite do the bright orange justice!

Don’t know that it would be better than the CAAD though.

Genesis Croix de Fer. Given that the roads around Edinburgh are rutted to **** you’ll need something sturdy.

Volare 853 with matching Enve carbon forks, 675 quid at Paul Milnes. See eBay. And please buy the 54 so I can delete it from my watch list.

Aww crap!

Crashtestmonkey what the hell did you go and post that for???

Bloodybargain

Genesis Croix de Fer. Given that the roads around Edinburgh are rutted to **** you’ll need something sturdy.

‘ordinary’ road bikes are fine for U.K> roads. having ridden flanders and roubaix pavé on a road bike with sub 1500g DT wheels i can’t say the U.K’s roads warrant anything more ‘sturdy’

I’m just glad that Volare doesn’t look like its available in a 56!!

Bregante, it was £750 on Friday. And if you buy with CC ‘off eBay’ they throw in a 40 quid headset.

Which probably isn’t helping.

I hate to tell you this mtbtomo but look again.

In fact – please buy it!

Edit: CTM lalalalala I’m not listening!

I wanted an Evo but couldn’t justify the price (and watched a clubmate’s get written off in a low speed training crash, rear triangle torn off), looked for a s/h CAAD10 but they hold their prices seemingly, so ordered a FM066 from China. Same angles as the ‘dales, loses out on stiffness to my Pegoretti, but has a great ride quality and built up into a 6.3kg racebike without any crazy expensive parts. Worth a look? FWIW my Pego is still sitting waiting to be built – I’m enjoying the Chinese bike too much!

ordinary’ road bikes are fine for U.K> roads. having ridden flanders and roubaix pavé on a road bike with sub 1500g DT wheels i can’t say the U.K’s roads warrant anything more ‘sturdy’

You’ve obviously not been to Edinburgh.

You have obviously not ridden Roubaix. Though I guess that statement is as presumptuous as yours..

I have and Edinburgh is worse than Roubaix.

Specialized allez e5 alloy

Spent some time on one last year, very impressive ride quality and handling

I ride a tarmac elite sl4, for comparison 😉

Volare 853 with matching Enve carbon forks, 675 quid at Paul Milnes. See eBay. And please buy the 54 so I can delete it from my watch list.

Bought the last 54 😕

Oh hell. I do not need another frameset…

Must stay away…

I have and Edinburgh is worse than Roubaix.

ok.

We have tram lines and tourists.

Ok, so….

Giant TCR SL (alu)
KTM Revelator
Kinesis Aithein

Where would a Volare fit in????

Oldgit, thanks for taking one for the team.
I think.
😉

What weight is the Volare frame?

Ah. 1.6-1.7kg

Shame…

Isn’t that about the same weight as the Ritchey? (I was looking at one myself recently)

Fag packet calculations, using pretty good stuff without specifically searching out ultra lightweight parts says it’ll come in mid 7kgs.
I think that’s pretty good.

Correct Bregante, but being OS it will have a harsh ride in comparison, when they could have given it a similar ride but less weight.

The Genesis is a race frame so stiffness will be the priority over comfort. The Ritchey is not so race focussed. I think the Equilibrium would be more equivalent to the Ritchey??

modern well built oversize steel ‘race’ frames are not bone shakers though, the idea is you get the stiffness to make a responsive frame that isn’t noodly yet have the ride it all day comfort.
as for the weight? anything under 8kg with decent wheels will ride light and not feel like you are dragging it around imho.

What’s this about the Volare, was it a good report?