Have any small town centres thrived when an out of town supermarket arrives?

If I want to eat value beans on toast, I will and I’ll buy them from where the hell I want.

No-one’s trying to stop you. The point is that for those of us who prefer not to use supermarkets, we’re often not given that choice.

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No-one’s trying to stop you. The point is that for those of us who prefer not to use supermarkets, we’re often not given that choice.

So you’d rather deny the majority of people their choice in order to have yours? – I’m yet to see a town where there are no small shops any more.

You’ve not been to Rawtenstall then?

I cannot be bothered to read the whole thread – its a well known well rehearsed argument.

Yes a supermarket will kill the high street – a repeated pattern seen time and time again, Not always, not completely in more affluent places but on the whole yes.

Rawtenstall

Looking at that picture I can see why its dead. The worst of 70’s architecture.

What is wrong with Supermarkets? I don’t like the idea where someone can charge whatever they want and dress it up in a ‘quaint’/misty-eyed style.

My baked beans don’t know where they were sat and one day they’ll be exiting my ass.

What is this LBS-crap? 😆

You’ve not been to Rawtenstall then?

I have actually, I installed a satellite system for a shop in the town centre for the lottery

And you’ve not felt the urge to move there?

If you want to save the local shops, get on with it, I won’t in anyway try to stop you and in the meantime could you please desist in telling me I don’t want a Tesco or in anyway speaking on my behalf?

Why don’t you get out there and campaign on behalf of the supermarkets? Mind you they don’t really need your help do they.

And you’ve not felt the urge to move there?

Not really, but as a Yorkshireman, it didn’t look much worse than I expected Lanc towns to be – don’t you all live like that then?

Why don’t you get out there and campaign on behalf of the supermarkets?

I don’t need to, there’s one just down the road

So you’d rather deny the majority of people their choice in order to have yours? – I’m yet to see a town where there are no small shops any more.

How you inferred that from my previous post is something of a mystery. All I want is a level playing field.

In Lancs? MOST towns are like that! 😆

All I want is a level playing field

and that is what exactly?

We’ve still a bit baffled by the electrickery and inside privvies to be honest Jota.

I want well priced food, in supply, right now. I don’t want to spend a whole morning wandering in and out of shops doorways just to buy a shop that takes me <30mins in a supermarket.

and that is what exactly?

One that isn’t sloping.

One that isn’t sloping.

Try Norfolk

Apparently Castle Douglas is a lovely wee town to shop in. So my mother tells me.

Hora – as long as your life is as easy as possible, you really couldn’t give a flying one about anyone or anything. We’re all well aware of that, Tory boy.

Is that what we should now use as a template for our society?

Try Norfolk

Yawn.

Yawn.

ahh, you’ve been

Hora – as long as your life is as easy as possible, you really couldn’t give a flying one about anyone or anything. We’re all well aware of that, Tory boy.

Is that what we should now use as a template for our society?

Quite. I guess most people use supermarkets, even if only ocassionally, but why are some so determined to be myopic about the problems they cause? We all know about the problems of controlling the supply chain, bulldozing the planning process, predatory pricing and so on. I would’ve thought that true Tory boys would be opposed to these hidden subsidies, attacks on a free market and restrictions on consumer choice. But apparently not.

Shopping for food is a pain. I’m no masterchef professional contestant. I m also glad the internet makes my wage go further in regards to bike bits.

You still haven’t said what you want ranos except a ‘level playing field’ and resisted explaining that

What is it you think should happen then?

I would’ve thought that true Tory boys would be opposed to these hidden subsidies, attacks on a free market and restrictions on consumer choice.

Unfortunately he won’t actually know what any of that means

I think you’ll find Hora that by buying quality, you don’t need as much.
Most people that shop at supermarkets make the trip once a week, bulk buying, some/a lot of this gets thrown away, along with all the excess packaging.

I care where my food comes from, how fresh it is, and believe me the trash that some supermarkets try and sell you in the fruit and veg section should have a health warning on it.

And when our town was faced with the threat of building a supermarket, the roads were closed, telly news came to film because most of our town came out to demonstrate against the idea.

I’m not totally against supermarkets, Booths and even the Co-op do try and source their goods locally where ever possible.

Most people that shop at supermarkets make the trip once a week

I wish someone would tell my wife that 🙂

Of course the town centre shops will close.
They need to so that the people who used to run them can find time to work at the new supermarket.
It would be a sh1t shop if they don’t have anyone to stock the shelves.
They need to be local, Workfare won’t pay the bus-fares for out of towners as its too expensive.

You still haven’t said what you want ranos except a ‘level playing field’ and resisted explaining that

What is it you think should happen then?

Just guessing here, but maybe stopping supermarkets from

controlling the supply chain, bulldozing the planning process, predatory pricing, hidden subsidies, attacks on a free market and restrictions on consumer choice.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jan/18/pays-tesco-ceo-wages-we-do

Just guessing here, but maybe stopping supermarkets from

controlling the supply chain, bulldozing the planning process, predatory pricing, hidden subsidies, attacks on a free market and restrictions on consumer choice.

Fairly far reaching then?

let me know how you get on with that, I suspect that vast majority of people in this country are happy having supermarkets over just small shops.
In pretty much everything there’ll be a minority that don’t want it but we either doing nothing until everyone agrees or accept it’ll never suit everyone

Bunnyhop – Member

I care where my food comes from, how fresh it is, and believe me the trash that some supermarkets try and sell you in the fruit and veg section should have a health warning on it.

As compared to what, boutique produce grown by the chap at the end of your road?

Can he supply 60 million people?

Trash in what way, care to be more specific?

Matt

Can I safely assume that all those complaining about the death of local shops and the power of the large retailers are always happy to buy everything at RRP, never shop around online for a better deal or get anything mail order which a local shop can’t get in for them?

No CRC, Merlin, Wiggle etc?

I suspect that vast majority of people in this country are happy having supermarketsHalfords over just small shops.LBS

Can I safely assume that all those complaining about the death of local shops and the power of the large retailers are always happy to buy everything at RRP, never shop around online for a better deal or get anything mail order which a local shop can’t get in for them?

Why would you assume that?

My little observation is that some of the big supermarkets are actually reducing their stock levels of fresh goods. I am seeing empty spaces on shelves no matter what time of day.

Nevertheless, there are mountains of anything cheap and processed.

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Can I safely assume that all those complaining about the death of local shops and the power of the large retailers are always happy to buy everything at RRP, never shop around online for a better deal or get anything mail order which a local shop can’t get in for them?

No CRC, Merlin, Wiggle etc?

No, but I do try and support the LBS where possible. I don’t really get this idea that it has to be all or nothing or you’re a hypocrite. Better to try and sometimes fail than to not try surely.

No, but I do try and support the LBS where possible. I don’t really get this idea that it has to be all or nothing or you’re a hypocrite. Better to try and sometimes fail than to not try surely.

My LBS is a chain…