GTA V

If any of the less sensitive souls on here see a bunch of roadies drafting while playing as Trevor, make sure you run them down his dialogue is priceless

Really don’t understand how a grown adult copes in the real world if they can’t handle Trevors character/story line.

+1

Pretty staggering really.

(it’s also funny that people will buy a game where you spend most of your time killing or attempting to kill people, drug/arms running and robbing, then get upset about the language of one of the characters)

I don’t think anyone’s getting upset here, just saying that Trevor is a bit creepy…….. I’m happy enough to donkey punch anyone who walks past as any character, or mow down a hooker after the deed has been done to recoup some money…….

Tip – if you go up in the control tower on Trevor’s airfield, the glass is impenetrable, so you can just stand aimed at the door and blow all the police away. Bodies disappear quite quickly though, so you can’t get a huge pile to take a photo of…………

Really don’t understand how a grown adult copes in the real world if they can’t handle Trevors character/story line.

Umm.. I’m not saying I can’t handle it. He’s a psychopath. The stuff he does in the cut scenes is acted out in full. Running over pedestrians is meaningless in this game, it can be ignored, because the pedestrians don’t have a character. When Trevor murdered Johnny it was full of pathos because you know the character, and you saw the whole thing done realistically.

I’m not saying I can’t handle it, and I’m certainly not saying it’s got anythign to do with bad language (I’ve got no problem with that), but it’s less pleasant for me to watch. Perhaps I empathise with characters more than some people. I certainly avoid some films for the same reasons.

Pretty staggering really.

What? You’re actually ‘staggered’ that someone might not enjoy watching a brutal murder played out in detail? Seriously? Fine, you might not mind, but why would you be ‘staggered’ and ‘not understand how I cope with the real world’. Or is this just STW hyperbole? (hint – yes)

Does your ‘real life’ involve brutal murders?

I’m with Molgrips on this one. It’s a tribute to the acting acnd characterisation in the game that we can feel differently while playing different characters even if they are in fact doing much the same thing.I for one do not like Trevor and will always use one of the others where possible.

Trevor is funny when he’s not being a psychopath though, and I think this is to the detrement of his character. It doesn’t seem realistic enough. I don’t think psychopaths are likely to be able to be that funny. Charming yes, but not funny like that.

Plus you can do the random helping of passer-by missions with him, which is very incongruous.

They’re *all* psychopaths

I don’t think Michael is. He cares about his family, or seems to so far. I think he’s an emotional basket case of course, but not a psychopath.

Trevor just needs the love of a good woman….sadly, some things just aren’t meant to be 😥

What? You’re actually ‘staggered’ that someone might not enjoy watching a brutal murder played out in detail? Seriously? Fine, you might not mind, but why would you be ‘staggered’ and ‘not understand how I cope with the real world’. Or is this just STW hyperbole? (hint – yes)

Does your ‘real life’ involve brutal murders?

Molgrips, my real life doesn’t involve ANY of the constituent parts of GTA. I don’t kill people (brutally or otherwise), run people over, steal cars, rob banks, blow up things etc etc. I don’t even play golf.

You buy a game where you can’t progress without murdering (a lot of) people. Watching brutal murders is bad, but watching murders generally is OK provided they’re done tastefully and with a degree of sensitivity?

You’re drawing your own line of what is acceptable within a game which registers as completely unacceptable to a fairly sizeable part of society…of course people will find this odd. Personally I find it odd that someone would buy GTAV and then be upset at the level of violence in it.

We’re all different I suppose. They’re just cartoon characters on a screen to me, I don’t get too attached (although I do love the game).

It was the 4x4s with the guys hanging on the side who tended to kill me!

Gar, those were the bad boys that done for me, too. And their mates with the stingers definitely weren’t helping. Tried ducking and dodging through small alleys, tried going full loud, tried the countryside – even crashed into the pond in the golf course and we all hunkered down in the water all incongruous-like, but they still found us in the end.

I’m happy enough to donkey punch anyone who walks past as any character

I didn’t know you could do that in this game, or do you mean something else?

Driving down railway tunnels seems to work aslong as they dont chase you in.

Driving down railway tunnels seems to work aslong as they dont chase you in.

The construction tunnel you use in the very first heist was my go to rat hole

No spoilers in here then?

Glad I’m not still completing the story 😉

All the AI in the game have characters, lives, relationships, jobs and even family.. Do you just ignore their dialogue on the street Molgrips? Kinda handy you are able to exhibit this sociopathic trait to hold onto your questionable moral high ground..

I also found a random garage down a back alley that opens up, you can drive in and they just drive past.

You buy a game where you can’t progress without murdering (a lot of) people. Watching brutal murders is bad, but watching murders generally is OK provided they’re done tastefully and with a degree of sensitivity?

Not quite. It’s ok as long as you don’t get involved with the characters and they don’t provoke any empathy. And the nature of the crime is not dwelled on. I never shed a tear over any of the aliens I killed in Space Invaders for example.

It’s the same in films. Pulp Fiction – ok. The kid who gets his head blown off, in the movie is just a 2D character with no background, so I just don’t care that he was someone’s son etc. Reservoir Dogs – not ok for me. The scene where they torture the policeman upset me and I had to stop watching it. Because it was dwelled on enough for me to start empathising. I’m sure there are movies where you were moved to feel for the characters – it’s just the line is drawn differently for most of us.

Personally I find it odd that someone would buy GTAV and then be upset at the level of violence in it.

Where did I say I was upset?

I enjoy the games because of the gameplay. I watched Johnny’s murder and I did the torture mission, and I still enjoy the game. Partly because MOST of Trevor’s character so far is acceptable, and those things just seemed a little like anomalies. As I said, I don’t think that his character is fully self consistent.

Do you just ignore their dialogue on the street Molgrips?

They are hardly well developed characters evoking empathy, are they?

Look I’m happy to talk about the emotional response to the game, it’s an interesting topic, but let’s not start a row about it please?

Either stop playing or stop being such a hypocrite then, you’re pretty much single handedly ruining this thread.

You seem to have no idea how complex the programming and attention to detail in each seemingly random AI in the game actually is in comparison to characters you don’t even interact with other than in set pieces and cut scenes.

Anyone actually online now? PS3?

Either stop playing or stop being such a hypocrite then, you’re pretty much single handedly ruining this thread.

Whoah.. that’s a bit strong. All I did was say I found him a bit distasteful. You lot didn’t have to argue with me about it. I don’t think one modest opinion ruined the thread. You all said how you liked him, I said I didn’t. That was it.

You seem to have no idea how complex the programming and attention to detail in each seemingly random AI in the game actually is in comparison to characters you don’t even interact with other than in set pieces and cut scenes.

NPC AI isn’t the same as scripted characterisation.

Anyway, I find this interesting, but you lot apparently don’t so I’ll leave it there.

Look I’m happy to talk about the emotional response to the game, it’s an interesting topic, but let’s not start a row about it please?

No I agree, it is interesting, I certainly wasn’t trying to be confrontational (although I admit my original hyperbole could be interpreted that way) 🙂

Is there much of a distinction between the relationship formed with characters in a game compared to a movie? I’d have thought the character development in GTA was less believable/engaging compared to a good movie (although this feels a bit illogical at first since you “control” the characters).

I can walk away from a movie and think it was a bit brutal and perhaps distasteful, but if you go to see Saw IV, then you’d be foolish to think it was going to be anything different. You wouldn’t think of suggesting Saw IV is “too violent”, because that’s just what it is. if you wanted less violent, you’d buy another movie.

There’s definitely an element of Rockstar “upping” their game in GTAV in terms of the level of detail in the cutscenes. the GTA market is so huge now that it will no doubt contain a broader section of gamers, from the people who reluctantly buy the game because they love the game play but are not so keen on the violence, to the total nutjobs who spend 5 hours at a time driving around and shooting strangers, laughing manically and masturbating.

to the total nutjobs who spend 5 hours at a time driving around and shooting strangers, laughing manically and masturbating.

So not only is sound on, but video? Bugger.

They are hardly well developed characters evoking empathy, are they?

I dunno. I really felt a bond with the Mexican pedestrian who periodically would say “**** me in the aaaaaass!”.

Seemed like a nice fella.

I’m sure there are movies where you were moved to feel for the characters – it’s just the line is drawn differently for most of us.

My Girl for me. I’m absolutely fine with Reservoir Dogs tho.

Bit late to the online party but I’ve requested to join the crew! Name as here….see you online (hopefully!)

Played last night. Got to level 14. Checked today, back to level 12. Awesome work.

endurogangster – Member
I’m happy enough to donkey punch anyone who walks past as any character
I didn’t know you could do that in this game, or do you mean something else?

Haha, I knew it had a different meaning, was thinking that while typing – should have checked before I posted, my mate uses the term just to mean punching someone hard, guess he definitely hasn’t been on urban dictionary!

But, I’m sure Trevor would love donkey punching anyway………

Who’s got the crying kid then!? Had to turn chat off!

You on now? Xbox or pS3?

Who’s got the crying kid then!? Had to turn chat off!

He’s not on here it’s an old gaming friend his kids is a bit noisy.

Is it my crap internet or does anybody else keep having to reset their ps3 because it keeps hanging?

On the odd occasion switching to missions it hangs but sorts out after a little while.

Whoever damnthegame is, I’m sorry about the swim.

Same guy with the noisy kid. He’s a good player as is his brother they can’t have aim.

Sorry I have been a bit absent – weekend in korea and working stupid hours. I am managing to get a good few hours in.

Hope to see you all online this weekend!

I returned to single player last night to sweep up some of the remaining side-missions, and played a couple of hours with no violence at all. There was celebrity-pestering, drug delivery, parachuting and mountain bike racing, but not a single shot was fired. It just didn’t feel right somehow.

Has anybody managed to complete it to 100%? I’m looking forward to this then restarting it choosing different mission options.

No worries Marko wondered where you’d gone. I’m nights for 2 nights then off and on my own for 2 days. Bring on takeaways, beer and GTA V.

Seen a few people reporting they’ve received the first stimulus package…anyone?

Has anybody managed to complete it to 100%? I’m looking forward to this then restarting it choosing different mission options.

You don’t have to. The replay mission option allows you to take the different options on each of the heists and all of the final missions are available too.