Goth & Industrial- recommendations?

I like most genres of music, but never really owned any Goth.
Must admit, it just didn’t appeal back in the day.

Feel like listening to something bit different & seeing what I might have missed out on, so what are the classic albums and bands to look out for?

Ta in advance.

Fields of the Nephilim. VERY niche and very difficult to get your head round but persevere with it.

Start with Revelations (the double album if you can get it), or Elysium. Of the later stuff, Mourning Sun is probably the best.

Other bands to look for – Sisters of Mercy (natch), Mission, Danse Society, March Violets, Skeletal Family (again, pretty rare but keep looking), Elements, Hunting Party, Ann-Marie Hurst, Alien Sex Fiend, Red Lorry Yellow Lorry, the list goes on…

At the risk of a STW barney I would recommend the early proper Fields Of The Nephilim. Their 2nd album is best. Last Exit and Psychonaut are my faves.

At the risk of a STW barney I would recommend the early proper Fields Of The Nephilim. Their 2nd album is best. Last Exit and Psychonaut are my faves.

No, you’re bang on. It’s far better than the later stuff, although I do like Mourning Sun. The backing vocals by Carl McCoy’s twin daughters is absolutely spine-chilling in places.

DO NOT get anything by “Nefilim” – it was a side-project of McCoys (singer with Fields of the Nephilim) and in general it stinks. Real fans of FOtN will ignore you to death if you do.

Rosetta Stone. Manuskript. Neon Zoo (I’m biased, I played bass!) , Play Dead

Sisters of Mercy is good stuff and you gotta try NIN, pretty hate machine. More recently the only thing I’ve liked has been Blue Stahli which is maybe more like listening to the Matrix film, if that makes sense.

bit more rock but the works of maynard keenans bands

Tool

A Perfect Circle

Puscifer

I’m a big FOtN fan. I was just getting into them as they split and had one chance to see them in concert but never made it.

I’m also a big fan of the Sisters and the Mission, both of whom i saw back in the day.

Not sure if it’s ‘Goth’ but i’d also recommend early Cure stuff (my favourite band) like the Pornography and Faith albums and also Jesus and The Mary Chain.

Due to this thread i’m now going to have to play the full 11 min version of Sumerland from Elizium on my phone in the office.

I miss the late 80’s……

For industrial try Einstürzende Neubauten

Another fan of the Nephilim here, I was lucky enough to see them live – bags of flour and all – and they were great. Got all my vinyl signed too.

I’ve got a Fear factory album kicking around (digimortal) and that’s pretty good industrial

Not entirely sure if it counts, but give Big Black a try. You will feel thoroughly pummeled.

Ministry – Psalm 69

Industrial wise, and being a rivethead, I’d suggest the following –

VNV Nation

Covenant

Front 242

Rotersand

Front Line Assembly

Nitzer Ebb

Aiboforcen

Rammstein

Technoir

Die Krupps

All the obvious ones: Fields of the Nephilim (as already mentioned lots), The Mission, Sisters of Mercy etc but also some of the less well known ones like March Violets & Rose of Avalanche .

all of the above,

best bet is to google goth/alternative clubs, download a setlist and go find.

chances are it’ll be a mash of the above, stuff edging and including toward depeche mode, de/vsion and popgoth zeromancer type stuff, to ear bleeding bleep.

Icon of coil, A23, combichrist, all EBM bleepy bleep bleep and quite nice.

if you’re feeling fashionable don’t miss out VNV Nation… 😉

it’s all the same, but different.

I’ve also got this track kicking around. It was labelled as Rammstein but it looks like it’s actually Schlammbein. Will have to try to find omre of their stuff

We had some real laughs following The Neffies. Must have seen them well over 50 times.
Once in Gottingen Germany we arrived at the venue during the day. We settled ourselves down when a guy opened the door and let us in.
He took us through to the dressing room where there was a pool table and all the beer we could want.
Eventually the band turned up and in true Blues Brothers style we were kicked out!
At a bar in Rotterdam we settled ourselves for a few pre gig beers. The owner came over all excited wanting his picture taken with us. We told him we weren’t the band and he’s going you can’t fool me.
So he has his picture taken with us and once again free beer.
Outside the Phillipshalle somewhere in Germany we pull up in a cab and its like full on beatlemania for a minute until the fraus realise we’re just some ugly mugs from London. Jeez, being the actual band must have been a blast.
Seeing The Neffies support Laibach in Germany was bloody scarey though. Laibach had a swastika made out of axes for their back drop and 2 hitler youth in lederhosen doing some drumming at the front of the stage.
This really stirred something in the collective German psyche and they were getting more stereotypical by the minute. Mouths firmly kept shut at that one.

Another thing with that tour was when we got back to Gatwick we walked through the green channel and da man stopped us and asked if we had enjoyed the band.
Then he added “you’ll be amazed at what we know”. Creepy.

Rusty – I don’t know if you’re on FB or not but if you are you might like to follow Side-Line Magazine, which is dedicated to all things Goth & Industrial. It’s very good at exposing you to new bands and home brew re-mixes.

Deluded -all that list and no KMFDM 😀

for The OP – find yourself an album called “blackbox: waxtrax, the first thirteen years” as a nice introduction. There’s another one called “the dark side” which is a good Goth rock ‘taster’ album

Revolting cocks
Pigface
Ministry

Z-11 I never got into KMFDM for some reason, which is strange given their similarity to bands on that list. A bit too discordant & shouty!

Zippykona – I know what you mean. There are many sub-genres of Industrial and within that are a number of bands that flirt or have a tacit relationship with the far right, particularly amongst the lesser know support acts. Creepy indeed.

Anyway – here’s a Front 242 remix.

most of the stuff mentioned above is well worth listening too, play dead could be hard to find but well worth it. bauhaus, gene loves jezebel, killing joke, and the sisterhood ( sisters of mercy off shoot) all worth playing. think its time to redo the play list on my generic,fruit named, mp3 player.

oh.. and early the cult/southern death cult should be mentioned too.

Bimbler +1

Filth Pig is also an excellent but mostly overlooked Ministry album. Less full on than Psalm 69, but more ambitious IMO.

Loved Sisters, wearing a Sisters tee at the moment, by a strange coincidence! Black on black, with the ‘Sisters Of Mercy’ around the top of the logo, and ‘Utterly Bastard Groovy’ around the bottom, with ‘And the kissing and the colours come crashing down’ on the back. long time favourite, that tee!
Not Goth as such, but Curve are well worth checking out as well

Is Gary Newman allowed ?

*reads thread*

*looks over at CD collection*

*nods in agreement with all of the above*

*puts on a Sisters’ CD – turns it up loud*

Wouldn’t know about gothicisms but always felt the best stuff was at the fringes of what was considered industrial:

Look up Turmion Katilot whaic are a Finnish band, barking with a genuinely disturbed lead singer called Spellgoth.

http://www.turmionkatilot.com/perstechnique.html

Sisters ‘Gimme Shelter’ and ‘Floorshow’ nothing more to say. Oh and The Mission ‘Amelia’. ‘Tower of Strength’ for my funeral.

+1 for Nine Inch Nails, especially Head Like a Hole, check out the many remixes.

Also they did the original version of Hurt, covered by some X-factor whiner and Jonny Cash; His version, I think, is better than the original!

White Zombie is borderline Industrial – Check out Dragula and More Human than Human.

Also Spetsnaz, which a friend of mine once described as sounding “more like Nitzer Ebb than Nitzer Ebb do”

have some propper goth, not the johhny come lately heavy metal nephies 😀

or for more modern (as in late 80’s early 90’s)

new stuff from old goths

industrial is a funny one as one mans industrial is another EBM or future pop like VNV nation or suicide commando.

I liked my industrial properly hard and nasty rather than fluffy and poppy, but it’s all better than justin bieber!

and the might killing joke don’t really fit into any genre as they’ve always done their own thing

shuffles back into a sea of dry ice and the smell of patchouli

Ah, Skinny puppy and FLA – now we’re talking 😀

Can’t believe we’ve got this far without an honourable mention of the Cab’s

missed these loons, they were so good live

and these