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  • Gaggia Classic- Cheapest place?
  • hora
    Free Member

    Ok about to pull the trigger on a Classic.

    Before anyone says ‘try this one instead’. I had a Classic for years and loved it (I think I paid £120 for it) however it scaled up then imploded through lack of maintenance. I tried a Cubika and loathed it.

    Anyway- cheapest online now is £249 😮

    Anyone know of anywhere doing them cheaper?!!!! Its a very basic machine

    atlaz
    Free Member

    I got that down by 25 quid by using Google.

    http://www.google.co.uk/products/catalog?q=Gaggia+Classic&hl=en&prmd=imvnsrfd&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.,cf.osb&biw=1280&bih=679&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=8254866171339511618&sa=X&ei=Fk2yTuO2BoTH8gPN_6XgBA&ved=0CGYQ8wIwAA

    Drac
    Full Member

    Debenhams online plus voucher code PG7D = £200

    Forget it won’t work with kitchen appliances.

    nmdbase
    Free Member

    Hora, did you ever manage to get a decent crema from your classic? I have one and I’m struggling, tips please!!

    BigJohn
    Full Member

    Happy Donkey sell a frother attachment off a Rancilio that fits a Clasic.

    I just make sure I’ve given the steam element long enough to warm up.

    nmdbase
    Free Member

    Cheers bigjohn, milk is fine, it’s the coffee 🙂

    mastiles_fanylion
    Free Member

    Hora, did you ever manage to get a decent crema from your classic? I have one and I’m struggling, tips please!!

    Don’t use the double basket and use fresh beans. I can get a lovely crema with mine now.

    mastiles_fanylion
    Free Member

    BigJohn – have you a link to that attachment? Might make a good Xmas pressie for me 🙂

    doc_blues
    Free Member

    I was looking recently and saw refurbed classic for £175 – google refurbished gaggia classic (think it was whoever ‘deals’/services gaggia in the uk now) – didnt look further as went for a rancillio in the end (I loathed my cubika that I had for my 1st machine and I was too afraid that I’d also hate the classic to shell out for it when I know I really wanted the silvia)

    hora
    Free Member

    doc_blues. They are like night and day. I even tried taking the Cubika back to the shop (I know I know).

    Interested to hear more on the Rancillio though. Might as well incase the competition is ‘better’..

    timbur
    Free Member

    Try contacting Steamer Trading cook shops in Lewes. They have an outlet store and discount the demo models and shop display models.
    I bought a Kitchen Aid blender for £80 notes last week brand spanking new.
    Tim

    timbur
    Free Member

    http://www.steamer.co.uk/index.php?pageid=our_stores

    The outlet one otherwise it’ll be RRP.

    Not sur eif they post though.

    Tim

    hora
    Free Member

    Edit £ for £ the Classic looks a good weigh-in against the Rancillio?

    Anyone have experience of both?

    peteimpreza
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    freddyg
    Free Member

    The Classic is available here for £175.

    Edit: It’s refurbished.

    Rusty-Shackleford
    Free Member

    Hora, did you ever manage to get a decent crema from your classic? I have one and I’m struggling, tips please!!

    Don’t use the double basket and use fresh beans.

    I have no problem with the double basket. Fresh beans are a must (try HasBean[/url]) and bear in mind that different beans/blends will give differing quality/amount of crema. Equally important to a good crema are grind and tamping pressure.

    These are great for consistent tamping pressure.

    mastiles_fanylion
    Free Member

    Hmm well I have always struggled – using the double basket is fine *if* it is full, but the coffee is too strong for my taste when full and it is when not fully filled that I struggle with crema.

    My problem is that the single basket isn’t *quite* strong enough either so all this led me back to where I bought it from (Peter Matturi in Harrogate – same price as anywhere on the interweb at the time) and he said mine is a common problem. Unfortunately he wasn’t aware of a basket somewhere between the two sizes which would fix my problem.

    So in conclusion – the double basket is fine if you like stronger coffee or are making for two people. 🙂

    Rusty-Shackleford
    Free Member

    Double espresso for me, so a full basket and no problems with strength!

    MountainMutant
    Free Member

    Double basket, fresh tin of illy and almost a cm of crema mmmm

    mastiles_fanylion
    Free Member

    Yeah that is my problem – I have tried lots of different beans and have settled on Whittards’ Guatemalan Elephant (for the time being) and getting the balance just right has proved very difficult – especially as when I overfill the single basket the grounds stick to the plate.

    I might try the double basket again at the weekend and jump up and down on the coffee to tamp it down enough (yes I already have a good heavy metal tamper).

    TiRed
    Full Member

    Like MM, I’ve never had an issue with Illy in the double basket. It’s the coffee not the machine.

    mastiles_fanylion
    Free Member

    Like MM, I’ve never had an issue with Illy in the double basket. It’s the coffee not the machine.

    It is neither – it is the quantity of coffee used – as I said above, it is fine when filled but when it has the amount I prefer for my taste it doesn’t get a good crema – basically it fills with water then squirts coffee out really quickly.

    Rusty-Shackleford
    Free Member

    it fills with water then squirts coffee out really quickly.

    The grind is probably too coarse. Do you grind your own? Water should never ‘squirt’ out, even if you short-fill the double basket.

    mastiles_fanylion
    Free Member

    Yes I do – with a Dualit burr grinder set on the finest setting.

    The coffee shop owner ground some coffee for me at a much finer setting using the shop grinder and it wouldn’t push through. I accept there may be a point in between the two where the coffee doesn’t squirt but it DOES come out.

    doc_blues
    Free Member

    hora – the cubika (fisrt machine, bought on ebay) was replaced with a saeco via venizzia – they were like chalk and cheese and I was pretty happy for 18 months with the saeco (once I’d doctored the portafilter to remove the pressurisation on it) – you could pull a decent shot of coffee through it. 9 months of hard use whilst I was off work saw it die a noble death.

    the rancillio – well thats a whole different league in comparisson (but should be at about £200 more) – very very pleased with it. it has been pretty easy to pull satisfactory shots thorough it so far, even usung non descript espresso beans from waitrose. I’m going to order something from hasbean or borrow some from the deli down the road who roasts his own to see what it is like with other beans. Main issues were getting the grind right from my isomac and havent had much success with creating microfoam yet (but I tend to drink black anyway so not too bothered)…. build is solid, buttons have a great clunk to them that I like.

    if you were to buy…I’d recommend the guys at hasbean…ordered and was dispatched within the hour, with me 9am next day… have heard bad things about places like coffeeitalia etc (but never used them myself)

    Rusty-Shackleford
    Free Member

    The coffee shop owner ground some coffee for me at a much finer setting using the shop grinder and it wouldn’t push through. I accept there may be a point in between the two where the coffee doesn’t squirt but it DOES come out.

    This is where you need to adjust your tamp pressure, i.e. how hard you press down on the coffee. A shot should take 25-30 seconds…any less and the grind is too coarse and/or the tamp isn’t firm enough, any more and the opposite is true.

    wors
    Full Member

    Sorry for the hijack, i want a coffe machine, but not looking to spend hundreds on one. What do I need to look for/avoid?

    ta

    mastiles_fanylion
    Free Member

    Rusty – I push as hard as I can on it and it is fine with the single hopper or a full double one. I haven’t got the money to spend on a new grinder unfortunately.

    Ohh and the coffee shop-ground coffee wouldn’t come out even if I didn’t tamp at all!

    Rusty-Shackleford
    Free Member

    Well you’re happy with the results for the single basket anyhow, so I guess it’s kinda a moot point 🙂

    mastiles_fanylion
    Free Member

    Well *sort of* happy – it isn’t quite strong enough and I usually overfill it causing grinds to stick to the filter plate on the machine or not being able to fit the handle on properly. I could really do with a 1.5 sized basket for my taste.

    Rusty-Shackleford
    Free Member

    Ok, then switch to double espressos and MTFU! Well, this is STW…

    porlus
    Free Member

    Hi.

    I’ve got a Baby D for sale if anyone is interested.
    Recently been de-scaled and used once since. Dont
    use it anymore, and is taking up precious worktop
    space.

    mastiles_fanylion
    Free Member

    Ok, then switch to double espressos and MTFU! Well, this is STW…

    8)

    mastiles_fanylion
    Free Member

    So, without wanting to start a new thread, what grinder should I get for superior performance than my Dualit?

    martinhutch
    Full Member

    I’ve never had any trouble with my Dualit burr grinder. I grind on the absolute finest setting, actually adjusting it slightly past the ‘minimum’ mark seems to make a difference. Could it be that your tamp strength needs adjusting? Can’t work out whether you need to push harder or softer from your description, mind you.

    I’m using a Rancilio Silvia – very very nice machine, but I’ve found not much margin for error in grind/tamp.

    AndyRT
    Free Member
    ransos
    Free Member

    Yes I do – with a Dualit burr grinder set on the finest setting.

    There’s your problem. My Dualit is very sensitive to the beans being used. My best results have been with Sainsbury’s espresso beans, straight from a fresh packet. Oddly, the worst were beans direct from a local roaster, which in theory should be the best!

    gray
    Full Member

    I have a Dualit grinder. There are instructions on t’internet showing how to modify it to enable it to grind finer. If you’re using yours on the finest setting then you might want to try mucking about with it so that you can try going finer. I did. It’s easy and works.

    MrSmith
    Free Member

    fresh tin of illy

    oxymoron.
    it was probably many weeks or months since the roasting date (which they don’t print on the tin)

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