FlyUP 417 project

Yeah right, its getting same old riding cranham and popes wood.
Need longer trails and steeper stuff!

Cycling in that area off-road seems to be a problem for some people.Look at the hassle we had in Cranham.Then years back there was the 4x-track by the Royal William and locals moaned about the tannoy on a few Sundays.Great track and people put a lot of hard work into it.Dont think theres much hope around there.Yet it should not bother anyone there!!.You wont hear them over the noise of the A417 and wont be an eyesaw like the A417.Strange country we live in 😥

Hate to p00 p00 on people’s hopes but that is an AONB and cotswold escarpment, hence any building etc is gonna be STRICTLY controlled – im sure they’ve already looked at this though.

i hate being right sometimes 😳

I think they’ve got a long battle ahead of themselves

http://publicaccess.tewkesbury.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=documents&keyVal=N70G5AQDFR300

here you go time to lodge your support everyone…

Hate to p00 p00 on people’s hopes but that is an AONB and cotswold escarpment, hence any building etc is gonna be STRICTLY controlled – im sure they’ve already looked at this though.

The Natural England letter in the application docs says “no objection – with recommendations”.

i hate being right sometimes

I think they’ve got a long battle ahead of themselves

alright i spoke to soon! BUT there are still a LOT of vague things in that app which the planner will want clarified before a decision is made and im sensing there will be a lot of conditions too. 🙁

I reckon 8 months til they are contemplating opening the DH tracks
I’ve signed up for the dig days so will be doing my best to help 🙂

Yet another wtf is going on bump!?

I checked the planning app earlier this week, still awaiting a decision on the application 🙁

I emailed them last week to see if there were any updates but no reply..

Gutted…I was sooooo excited about this!

Here’s their reply when I asked on FB:

We’ve hit some delays. Had to change a few things with the plans. Just waiting for them to get signed off and digging can commence. We still massively appreciate everyone’s support and patience

Fantastic news…let’s hope there’s something to ride by summer!

Had to change a few things with the plans. Just waiting for them to get signed off and digging can commence

How can this be right if they don’t have planning?

they ‘may’ have had to change their plans to take into account for wildlife flora and fauna so could have revised the plans or had to get supporting documents

AONB and green belt are strictly adhered to round ere so the council will need to ensure its watertight

all positive stuff though and some great support shown 😀

Bloody good luck to them. Be ideal for me 😀

Iy and me!

And easier for me than FoD 😀

v666ern – Member
AONB and green belt are strictly adhered to round ere so the council will need to ensure its watertight

Both of which are particularly hard to argue for with a dirty great dual carriageway right next to it and a proposed dual track bypass in the offing just over the hill. 🙄

A few mud tracks with some lumps and bumps thrown in pale into insignificance in comparison.

You’d sure think!

😀

I’m glad I started working in Gloucester recently 😀

Both of which are particularly hard to argue for with a dirty great dual carriageway right next to it and a proposed dual track bypass in the offing just over the hill.
A few mud tracks with some lumps and bumps thrown in pale into insignificance in comparison.

Oh no you are right, you mean the vital part of infrastructure that will prevent multiple accidents each year on a dangerous road. The only single carriageway section between the m5 and the m4.
FFS I think your mixing up necessary safety improvements and having a laugh with your mates

I think he’s trying to say that if they get planning for a big DC extension why wouldn’t they get it for the DH tracks as they will impact the AONB less than a DC..

FFS I think your mixing up necessary safety improvements and having a laugh with your mates

I think you have spectacularly missed the point.

I think he’s trying to say that if they get planning for a big DC extension why wouldn’t they get it for the DH tracks as they will impact the AONB less than a DC..

I think you have spectacularly missed the point.

Yes i may well have :oops:, but from a planning point of view they wont see it just as

A few mud tracks with some lumps and bumps

and i think your being naive to think that’s all it’ll be…they are talking about a drag lift for a start so you’ve got all the infrastructure that goes with that

I take it you saw how much work Roger and Bigfoot et al had to put in to get what 5 tracks agreed with NE in cranham…

No he’s right I was arguing that there’s no justification for pointless “improvements” to the road network given the cost and . . . . . .

actually I can’t be bothered, no v666ern has missed the point.

v666ern – Member

Yes i may well have :oops:, but from a planning point of view they wont see it just as

and i think your being naive to think that’s all it’ll be…they are talking about a drag lift for a start so you’ve got all the infrastructure that goes with that
I take it you saw how much work Roger and Bigfoot et al had to put in to get what 5 tracks agreed with NE in cranham…

Cranham’s a completely different kettle of fish though as while in the same area it’s surrounded by some “precious” woodland and very wealthy individuals who are understandably protective of the area.

A rope tow will at worst be a wheel mounted in a solid structure at the top and a winching station at the bottom with an approx 2m wide hard track running between. Nothing that can’t be simply removed. Will pale into insignificance in relation to the proposed road.

Shame there’s no way to argue the point.

Speeder, i think im just being dim and theres not really a point here but cos this is the internet *fight*

Cranham’s a completely different kettle of fish though as while in the same area it’s surrounded by some “precious” woodland and very wealthy individuals who are understandably protective of the area.

You mean european importance beech woods and the neighbours in this instance being the Hicks Beach Estate — http://www.yiangou.com/projects/887

http://publicaccess.tewkesbury.gov.uk/online-applications/files/5CF5D153339CDC60E70DD3158791CA86/pdf/14_00577_FUL-LANDSCAPE_MATERPLAN-410173.pdf

My point is that the bike track is for recreation so in 10 years time if no one is riding anymore then this may have caused ‘harm’ to the AONB. Whereas the bypass may yes have impacted the AONB but in the long term it will still be there and any intial ‘harm’ its caused will be outweighed by the decrease in fatal accidents on that stretch of road.

My original post was over the top as yesterday i was an hour late picking my son up from nursery after a lorry had crashed on the 419 reducing it down to a single carriageway

I think you have spectacularly missed the point.

I’m sure you’re right. It’s everybody else which is wrong. Obviously.

I’m sure you’re right. It’s everybody else which is wrong. Obviously.

Which is fine as its your opinion but of the 4 people surveyed above its 3 versus 1 which isnt really a landslide. I am merely arguing my point which i believe is valid.

So if i said that you were wrong would you change your opinion to match everyone else?

My point is that the bike track is for recreation so in 10 years time if no one is riding anymore then this may have caused ‘harm’ to the AONB. Whereas the bypass may yes have impacted the AONB but in the long term it will still be there and any intial ‘harm’ its caused will be outweighed by the decrease in fatal accidents on that stretch of road.

If the trails don’t get used and close down they will be easy enough to return to the natural state returning the AONB back to where it was whereas the bypass, which will be invaluable to the transport links which I use quite frequently, will have a permanent effect. Just my opinion of course..

So if i said that you were wrong would you change your opinion to match everyone else?

Nope. But it doesn’t make a difference to the fact that speeder still makes a valid point.

The new road made not happen anyway.They are not looking into till 2020.If they had put the road where they originally planned before the pubs whinged they would go out of business there would not be all this hassle now.We have some strange ways in this country{Bloody Planning}

The local Tory propaganda sheet landed on the mat this morning with the headline

“AIR BALLON ROUNDABOUT – £250m INVESTMENT APPROVED!”

So . . . . . . . . . .about those dirt tracks.

any more news on this ?

Nothing new on the FB page about it for a long time now..

Just had this reply to a post on FB:

Everything’s gone quiet as we have hit some delays and waiting on the final bit to be signed off. As you can imagine it’s a huge project with a lot of red tape in our way. It’s incredibly frustrating for everyone and we thank our wonderful customers for their contained patience and support. We know lots of rumours are going around but we can reassure people that we own the 100 acres and fully intend this Project to be open this year. Just please bear with us.

Looks like things have been moving slowly due to red tape but still hopeful to be opening this year.

We should all get down there and help them clear up the red tape that’s in the way

http://publicaccess.tewkesbury.gov.uk/online-applications/simpleSearchResults.do?action=firstPage

nothing on the councils website, though they have got a back log of a month so have probably asked for an extension of time

They are not even going to start looking into the new road around the Air Balloon till 2020.So theres more chance of the Downhill tracks appearing 😉