Fat people in France…

Every thread I post on Molgrips rubbishes what I say. The problem is that in doing so he gets insulting, misquotes, posts falacious information and generally makes a fool of himself. He has some kind of fixation on me because I dared disagree with iDave’s no fruit, no cereals no white carbs, fad diet.

It’s not “trolling” which is aimed at getting a general rise, it’s a persoanl attack each time.

For the millionth time I don’t care if you disagree with the idiet, I disagree with your conceited attitude and your poor logic. And the epithets I use are condemning your actions and arguments, not you personally. I don’t know you, so that would not be right.

PS information can’t be fallacious. Arguments can be.

Preparing food is great if it’s something you really want to be doing – it’s not good to feel pressured into doing it.

Do you mean in the context of a family unit or pressured by society.

a lot of people eat convenience food because they would rather spend their time doing other things

Which, in the UK, mostly translates into “sitting on the sofa watching Sky”

Food & mealtimes is many cultures is an event in itself, the whole family is involved, time is spent making ‘proper’ food etc etc …

Life expectancy for Western Europeans seems to be much of a muchness in whatever country. The odd couple of months difference here and there.

If the diets are so widely different, it makes you wonder if the UKs diet is really that bad [from a nutrition POV]

Which, in the UK, mostly translates into “sitting on the sofa watching Sky”

Pah, speak for yourself! Stereotyping everyone in Britian as a lazy slob is not accurate and not very nice.

Do you mean in the context of a family unit or pressured by society.

Almost entirely overlapping, no?

Well in that case enter debate rather than callin me a “prick” or a “tit”, or replying to a factually correct statement I have made with “do they hell”. In the UK industrial beans and carrots have added sugar so your “do they hell” demostrates your own ignorance, Molgrips.

Your first post on this thread was benign, as soon as I posted with a factually correct and constructive post you attacked me with “do they hell”. You have a fixation and are trying to start a vendetta. You would perhaps do better getting your fad-diet friend to refund the STW members he has taken money from but provided no service to.

where can I get some of these mythical veggies in jars? are they pickled? will my local restaurant* have them?

*chippy

Almost entirely overlapping, no?

Errr no.

Someone pressuring their wife to cook would make them a dick.

Not appreciating the benefits of good food and being unwilling to make the effort sounds like laziness IMO. Society should educate those people not to be idiots.

You can get jars of veg in any French supermarket. The contact of the foodstuffs with material containing Bisphenol A is much reduced or eliminated. Less chance in infertility, hormonal imbalances or cancers then.

The reason is exceptionally simple, and has nothing to do with red wine, big macs or anything like that.

They eat less than we do.

“I loves me a good debate” says Gerard Depardieu.

They eat less than we do

take your common sense elsewhere

I spent a lot of time in France during the 90’s and early 00’s and still have mates who live in Pau/Bordeaux/Dinard/LaRochelle.
Whilst living over there I used to walk past a huge McD’s in Bordeaux with queues 3 deep, so saying all Frenchies don’t eat McD’s is a little incorrect.
However if you do go out of the big cities, even large Towns there are very very few take away/fast food emporiums to entice the taste buds.

All my mates never touch fast food, to them a Pizza is about as close as it gets. Most eat local, are proud to eat local and will continue to eat local. They say if they can’t find something local to eat that’s in season they’ll choose something else that is and build a meal around that.
None smole, all drink wine like there is a shortage of it.
They are all very proud of their farming comminity, will happily pay for whats in season and local and don’t blink an eyelid at the cost of local produce.

We, here, well most, couldn’t give a shite about our local food and producers. I’d suggest most couldn’t name one local (to them) sourced produce. I can. I eat local.

They eat less than we do

Ah, so Brits are generally lazy AND greedy …

Anyhow, so far 10 minutes of TF1’s one o’clock news has been devoted to food. We’ve had honey, sea food and deserts. There is currently a man fishing, how long before they discuss cooking his catch? The camera moves to the kitchen as I type… .

Edukator – Member

Every thread I post on Molgrips rubbishes what I say. The problem is that in doing so he gets insulting, misquotes, posts falacious information and generally makes a fool of himself.

molgrips – Member

For the millionth time I don’t care if you disagree with the idiet, I disagree with your conceited attitude and your poor logic

woohoo

judging from a programme that was on ITV4 last night, its nowt to do with diet, the French all seem to do lots of exercise, mainly cycling around in packs

They look pretty quick too

It’s surprising considering that chasing snails isn’t a very energetic sport.

But seriously, when I worked in France it was normal to have business meetings in the morning, set off for home but then at about 13h00 turn off the autoroute and drive into the nearest town where we would repair to a proper restaurant and enjoy a leisurely lunch, all fresh ingredients washed down with a decent wine. This was possible because you could stop at any town and count on finding half a dozen decent restaurants within a few yards of the car park.

In the UK good restaurants are the exception rather than the rule and damned expensive too, so the normal lunch consists of cheap industrial ingredients bought on the world market by the shipload and converted into something edible by food chemists then wolfed down in a miasma of hot cooking fat at a motorway services.

On top of that the French still mostly drink wine rather than cans of high carbohydrate Europiss bought cheap from a supermarket.

Has anyone bothered to look at a tin/jar of industrial beans or carrots to see if I’m right about added sugars yet?

Nope. I just believe you instead.

The down side of eating lunch in a restaurant or at home is four rush hours a day rather than two. A present I’m waiting for the traffic to die down before cycling to the pool.

The life expecatancy for french men is 1 year less than english men.

So maybe we are just a bunch of happy fatties!

Our women are farked though with 2 years less than their french cousins. So us men get a year longer to enjoy the company of our overwieght and closer to death womenfolk.

🙁

When I worked in Paris, horseburger and chips from Roger la Frite in Montparnesse wasn’t uncommon. frankly, a bigmac and fries would have been tastier and heathier. As for these 24 hour lunch breaks of freshly caught sea truffles served by scantily clad serving wenches? Utter bollocks IME. I worked in hotels, got a half hour lunch break, staff canteen. One was good, food from the hotel restaurant, another was as average as average can be

Has anyone bothered to look at a tin/jar of industrial beans or carrots to see if I’m right about added sugars yet?

All I could see was this

http://www.mysupermarket.co.uk/#/sainsburys-price-comparison/tinned_vegetables/sainsburys_mixed_vegetables_in_water_salt_added_300g.html

or this

http://www.mysupermarket.co.uk/#/sainsburys-price-comparison/tinned_vegetables/sainsburys_garden_peas_in_water_300g.html

http://www.mysupermarket.co.uk/#/sainsburys-price-comparison/tinned_vegetables/sainsburys_baby_carrots_in_water_300g.html

Continuez, s’il vois plait
Ces’t tres droll, non?

The life expency of French men born in 2011 is 78.2. Would people sating English men live longer kindly link a reliable source to beat that. Wiki is out of date. French life expectancy contiues to rise unlike some countires where medical science is failing against an epedemic of fat related ills.

Has anyone bothered to look at a tin/jar of industrial beans or carrots

who buys tinned/ jarred vegetables? my Nan used to. she’s 92. she lived on a diet of tinned meat, tinned potatoes, sweetcorn and sweets. now she just eats sweets despite the fact that she has diabetes.

Sugar has been eliminated from tinned veg since I last shopped in the UK, good.[/url]

If they ever ban bisphenol A tinned food will be back on the menu.

However in reality, the ASDA site confirms my last shopping experience.

and corn with aded sugar

the ASDA site confirms my last shopping experience

Bonduelle are a French company aren’t they…….

Just eat less if you don’t want to become a fatty. 🙄

Processed food by those big organisation will never be healthy no matter what spin they put on.

Yes, they are partly to be blamed for processed food but then you are the foolish ones that keep eating them.

Oh yes, those McDon*ld taste good and you can still eat them like once a month if you like no harm at all, but then when you treat them as a meal (it’s not a meal … junk food they are) you are doomed to become a walrus with thunder thighs.

Yes, bonduelle are French. My Googling so far suggests that if you buy branded veg in tins in the UK there will probably be added sugar, however, the supermarket own brands are generally rightly proud to be sugar free. progress. But “do they hell” was totally unjustified as many still do.

We, here, well most, couldn’t give a shite about our local food and producers. I’d suggest most couldn’t name one local (to them) sourced produce. I can. I eat local.

I’m lucky* that I live on the Lancashire plain. Near enough every farm has a shop selling you a wide variety pf freeshly grown, in season food..

I look out of the front of my house and see a butcher selling organic beef. I look out of the back of the house and see the cows that are turned into that organic beef.

*for food, not for riding bikes up and down hills.

So being relatively unfamiliar with processed foods, is the sugar in tinned veg intended as a flavour enhancer or a preservative ?

I’m lucky* that I live on the Lancashire plain. Near enough every farm has a shop selling you a wide variety pf freeshly grown, in season food..

Looks out of kitchen window at food ………… just growing etc.

Loads of veg, fruit [which we know is awfully bad for you 😉 ], chickens, herbs etc, etc
Loads of strawberries and tomatoes this year:-)

replying to a factually correct statement I have made

Sorry, what was that about being factually correct again?

Well in that case enter debate rather than callin me a “prick” or a “tit”

I haven’t called you anything bad this thread. Even though your attitude is egregious. I called you bad names on the last one because you were behaving in a bad way and thoroughly deserved those names.

And as for entering debate – it’s all I do on here. I posted page and pages of constructed argument and you ignored it. This is partly why I think your actions deserved (on that occasion) the bad names.

Anyway this is stupid. What are we trying to prove? That the French eat better than the Brits on average? This is well known. That British tinned veg has sugar? Well a) a lot doens’t and b) hardly anyone eats tinned veg anyway. That the French are all virtuously healthy? Not true. That spending lots of time and money on food is a good thing? That depends on your viewpoint, either is valid.

When I worked in Paris, horseburger and chips from Roger la Frite in Montparnesse wasn’t uncommon. frankly, a bigmac and fries would have been tastier and heathier. As for these 24 hour lunch breaks of freshly caught sea truffles served by scantily clad serving wenches? Utter bollocks IME. I worked in hotels, got a half hour lunch break, staff canteen. One was good, food from the hotel restaurant, another was as average as average can be

Paris is not typical of France. I love France as a whole, but can’t abide Paris. Many French feel the same.